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Obama lies again - swampy - 04-05-2012
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/04/barack-obama/obama-attaches-stark-terms-possible-supreme-court-/
Doesn't it bother the liberals here that Obama has injected himself into the Supreme Court's current decision on health care with his lies, half truths and scare tactics?
Obama is a graduate of Harvard Law School and majored in Constitutional law. He was a professor of Constitutional Law at Chicago University. HOW could he get this so wrong? He's trying to back peddle this, but anyone with any intelligence knows how wrong he is. Either he's just plain stupid or he thinks the public is stupid and will buy his "facts".
Re: Obama lies again - Ombligo - 04-05-2012
swampy wrote:
Doesn't it bother theliberalsRepublicans here thatObama(insert any GOP poltician name here) has injected himself into the Supreme Court's current decision on health care with his lies, half truths and scare tactics?
there fixed that for you...
There are plenty of lies to go around, why limit it to one individual?
Re: Obama lies again - $tevie - 04-05-2012
Those comments did disturb me. He sounds as if he's decided to take a page from the right-wing playbook, but it was the wrong page as far as I am concerned.
Re: Obama lies again - davester - 04-05-2012
Perhaps he needs to get some lessons from Rick "California universities don't even teach US history" Santorum and Mitt "I've never supported anything like
Re: Obama lies again - Gutenberg - 04-05-2012
$tevie wrote:
Those comments did disturb me. He sounds as if he's decided to take a page from the right-wing playbook, but it was the wrong page as far as I am concerned.
Bingo. Don't descend to the GOP's level.
On the other hand, the Supremes have drastically overstepped their bounds. The debate last week sounded more like a Congressional debate than a reasoned legal discussion of a bill passed by representatives of the people and signed by the executive. The Supremes need to mind the system of checks and balances themselves. Any of them is welcome to run for Congress if he wants. Those who do not should stick to the knitting of jurisprudence.
It does not matter if the Supremes agree with the law. What matters is its constitutionality, and I think the Affordable Care Act is well within precedent.
Re: Obama lies again - cbelt3 - 04-05-2012
Sounds more like just election year speak rather than 'lies' to me.
The term 'judicial activism' is hysterically amusing. Why is it that the side that lost the case always claims 'judicial activism' ? :villagers:
Instead of admitting "Our lawyers screwed up." ? :confused:
Re: Obama lies again - mattkime - 04-05-2012
Swampy - does it bother you that obama is still president?
Re: Obama lies again - swampy - 04-05-2012
mattkime wrote:
Swampy - does it bother you that obama is still president?
No, that doesn't bother me. It would bother me a great deal if he were to get re-elected though. I don't like him. I don't like the direction he is taking our country. I don't like his arrogance or constant need to pit factions of our country against each other. He seems to like picking fights and picking sides. He's supposed to be the leader of all the people not just those of the liberal faith. I'm tired of him blaming the other half of the nation for everything that goes wrong instead. of LEADING he is constantly pushing the rope.
For example, he gets petulant when things like the (read his Democratic) Senate rejects his budget proposal 97-0. How can he blame that on Republicans when no one in his own party could vote for it?
The Constitutions calls for the Congress to vote on a budget annually (it doesn't call for them to pass a budget, just bring it to a vote). That's LAW. Yet Harry Reid and the Dems won't even bring it to the floor for a vote. That's flaunting the law. Yet Obama continues to blame Republicans. The Republicans are not the ones holding up a budget vote. They passed a budget in the House. It's his own party that is literally breaking the law. You liberals here defend this blatant disregard of the LAW. I just don't understand how you justify this sort of thing in your own mind. What part of the LAW don't you understand?
Re: Obama lies again - August West - 04-05-2012
Swampy wrote:
The Constitutions calls for the Congress to vote on a budget annually...What part of the LAW don't you understand?
Because, in your eyes, I am sure I am some sort of liberal, and due to that, I don't have my constitution handy (I probably mistook it for a simple piece of paper and threw it out), could you remind me which Article and Section requires the annual budget vote?
Re: Obama lies again - Ombligo - 04-05-2012
Swampy,
It would be easy to completely flip what you just said above and apply it to the Republicans. I see them being just as devisive, if not moreso.
That makes your statement the perfect example of how the art of compromise is gone and any agreement with the opposition is now seen as a defeat. Until both sides of the aisle get past such stupidity - we are going to continue a downward slide regardless of who is President.