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We're becoming more peaceful - Lemon Drop - 04-24-2012

as a nation. I like this direction for our future.

Key findings of the first ever "United States Peace Index."

" First-ever ranking of peace in the U.S. shows the nation has become more peaceful since 1995

Reductions in violence and crime to levels equal to Canada would yield an estimated $89 billion in direct savings, $272 billion in additional economic activity, and potentially create 2.7 million jobs.

New York, California and Texas record highest increases in peace since 1991, while North Dakota, South Dakota and Montana see largest declines

Peace is significantly correlated with factors related to economic opportunity, education and health

Peace is politically neutral – neither Republican nor Democratic states have an advantage."

See how your state/region fares:
http://www.visionofhumanity.org/info-center/us-peace-index/


Re: We're becoming more peaceful - cbelt3 - 04-25-2012

...so superior firepower does help ???....

(not really ... Cultural and education is the key)


Re: We're becoming more peaceful - Seacrest - 04-25-2012

Metta.


Re: We're becoming more peaceful - kj - 04-25-2012

That's nice, but their concept of "peace" is a little odd. Violent crime, etc. is a no-brainer, but they assume in a peaceful nation gun ownership will be low because people won't feel the need to protect themselves. I think an awful lot of people own guns for recreational reasons, so I'm not sure about that assumption. I also wonder about incarceration as an index, since it overlaps pretty heavily with the violent crime index. They also have a global peace index, and one of the indices is military capability, the assumption being that less military capability equals more peace. I don't agree with that, at all. Good food for thought though. kj.


Re: We're becoming more peaceful - RgrF - 04-25-2012

Export violence and domestic peace will be sure to follow.


Re: We're becoming more peaceful - Spock - 04-25-2012

I think an awful lot of people own guns because they have been told to be afraid by the NRA.


Re: We're becoming more peaceful - OWC Jamie - 04-25-2012

Isn't Reagan's Cold War Peace Benefit wonderful ?
I can smell Nirvana.


It must be all the cosmetic surgery
Free big boobs and wrinkle remover for everyone


Re: We're becoming more peaceful - kj - 04-25-2012

RgrF wrote:
Export violence and domestic peace will be sure to follow.

There's actually a separate index for exporting military equipment. That said, is there anything that would suggest the weaker a nations military, the more peaceful their lives? There might be some isolated cases, but I doubt it's a trend.

Spock, I disagree almost completely, in that I'd be surprised if there is anyone who has bought a gun because the NRA told them to be scared. That wasn't really my point though. I was addressing their assumption that in a peaceful world, no one would have the desire to own guns. Clearly not true. kj.


Re: We're becoming more peaceful - Lemon Drop - 04-25-2012

"their assumption that in a peaceful world, no one would have the desire to own guns. "


where are you getting that from this website?

Notice that Canada gets a score of 2 on the "ease of access to weapons" index, meaning they have strict gun control. Gun ownership is very common in Canada and there is lot of hunting. But they have laws in place that control firearms to a degree that the US does not. The US has 90 guns for every 100 people and they can be easily acquired by pretty much anyone. Seems a bit excessive.

"Qualitative assessment of the ease of access to
small arms and light weapons. Ranked 1-5 (very
low-very high) by EIU analysts"


Re: We're becoming more peaceful - kj - 04-25-2012

Lemon Drop wrote:
"their assumption that in a peaceful world, no one would have the desire to own guns. "


where are you getting that from this website?

Notice that Canada gets a score of 2 on the "ease of access to weapons" index, meaning they have strict gun control. Gun ownership is very common in Canada and there is lot of hunting. But they have laws in place that control firearms to a degree that the US does not. The US has 90 guns for every 100 people and they can be easily acquired by pretty much anyone. Seems a bit excessive.

"Qualitative assessment of the ease of access to
small arms and light weapons. Ranked 1-5 (very
low-very high) by EIU analysts"

It's in the actual report you can download as a "pdf". I looked at it because I wanted to know what their methods were. They're a little unusual, imho.

>>Seems a bit excessive.

As others have noted, the number of guns in the U.S. has increased in the last 20yrs., but we've evidently become more "peaceful" in that same period of time. So I don't know that their report really supports the gun control crowd. Interestingly, they also give gun ownership a pretty low weight compared to other indices. kj.