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So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 01, 2011 12:59PM
Just a little mental excercise for ya today...

My morning is consisting mostly of waiting for downloads and hard drive clones to complete...

So.. you have two or three weeks off...
And around $20K ( assume this is after getting out of debt, etc - it's vacation money...).

What sort of trip would you do?
Where would you go?
What would you see?
What hookers would you share booze with? (j/k... mostly..)


In wikipedia surfing, I stumbled on an old dream vacation...
The trans-siberian railway!
I would love to start in London, take the train to Paris, to Vienna, Bucharest, then through to Moscow.. PREFERABLY with a couple days stops at each city.
Get on the Trans Siberian Railaway, and end up in Vladivostok, again preferably with stops of a day or so in several cities.
Catch a flight or ferry to Japan...
Flight to the Phillipines to say howdy to haikuman, of course, and then a flight to the west coast and home.

Of course, to do that all in 20K is going to mean no "first class" cabins on the train... (first class without stops from Moscow to Vladivostok is surprisingly inexpensive at around $1500 though...). The air-fair to London and the Japan to West Coast part would be expensive, I think!

I think that would a HECK of a neat trip!



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: jdc
Date: March 01, 2011 01:03PM
You need to define "vacation".

to me vacation = doing absolutely nothing

some people think its backpacking for 2 weeks.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: timg
Date: March 01, 2011 01:03PM
"So.. you have two or three weeks off...
And around $20K"

I'd be spending the 2 or 3 weeks and the $20K doing home improvement projects...

but that's me.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: microchip
Date: March 01, 2011 01:08PM
I would buy an old classic sports car for around $5k, something horribly unreliable, and then spend said weeks driving(or attempting to drive) the car around the US stopping at coffee shops.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: March 01, 2011 01:23PM
Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica for 2 weeks, then use the remaining $19k on local hookers and booze closer to your home.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 01, 2011 01:25PM
jdc;
For the purposes of this conversation, let's just say the definition is "Leisure travel with light personal energy expenditure" :-)


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I'd be spending the 2 or 3 weeks and the $20K doing home improvement projects...

For the purposes of this conversation, we're assuming that those home improvements have already been done with the magic hypothetical "other $20K" you got.

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I would buy an old classic sports car for around $5k, something horribly unreliable, and then spend said weeks driving(or attempting to drive) the car around the US stopping at coffee shops.

THAT would be a fun road-trip! No doubt about it!
It would be fun to fly to some extremeity of the US (Los Angeles, Miami, Seattle, or Maine...) and buy the car, and make it a goal to hit, say, 40 states.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: March 01, 2011 01:26PM
A friend went on an around the world trip for about... $14k(?). It took 13 months. She briefly worked in some spots and waited for deals on travel. Got busted riding the subway without a pass/token in some EU country. Abbreviated preliminary itinerary: Honduras, Peru, Argentina, New Zealand, Bali, Nepal, China, trans-Siberian railway to Russia, Norway, Spain.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: zero
Date: March 01, 2011 01:29PM
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jdc
You need to define "vacation".

to me vacation = doing absolutely nothing

some people think its backpacking for 2 weeks.

He asked where would YOU go.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 01, 2011 01:30PM
Very cool!

I have a hard time envisioning doing that trip for $14K, but if she worked a bit in some spots to minimize out of pocket costs, I can see it...

Did she pre-plan a lot of the travel, or just "wing it" as she went?



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: March 01, 2011 01:31PM
I've always wanted to explore Australia and surrounding points of interest, but I think I would need more than 2-3 weeks. Definitely would rather be on my own than in some kind of package deal with tour guide, schedule, etc. I like to do things at my own pace and when *I* feel like doing it.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 01, 2011 01:34PM
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I've always wanted to explore Australia and surrounding points of interest, but I think I would need more than 2-3 weeks. Definitely would rather be on my own than in some kind of package deal with tour guide, schedule, etc. I like to do things at my own pace and when *I* feel like doing it.

I sort of "half-like" the idea of guided tours...
I would love the knowledge and experience of a guide, but it would be way better to be able to say "thanks for the guided tour this far, I'll be back in 3-4 days, and we can move on to the next city in the package".



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: kap
Date: March 01, 2011 01:45PM
Bicycling/backpacking the unspoiled lands and rain forests of Tibet, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Siberia and the 49 states.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: timg
Date: March 01, 2011 01:50PM
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I'd be spending the 2 or 3 weeks and the $20K doing home improvement projects...

For the purposes of this conversation, we're assuming that those home improvements have already been done with the magic hypothetical "other $20K" you got.

Well, if you want my "dream" vacation, you'd need whole lot more than $20K ...



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: abevilac
Date: March 01, 2011 01:51PM
A few years ago, my husband, daughter and I spent 5 weeks in France; each week in a different house [called 'gites'] in a different area of France. It was wonderful and we often talk about doing it again. We did one of those deals where you actually buy the car and then sell it back at the end of the trip. I don't remember exactly how much it cost but it was less than 20K for the whole trip. [I remember one 400 yr old house on a canal in Brittany was only $300 for the week.] mmmm...thanks, Paul, for bringing back that memory! :-)
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 01, 2011 02:03PM
abevilac;
Dang... that would be a fun trip too! :-)



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: davester
Date: March 01, 2011 02:24PM
I'm torn between trekking into the Himalayas and taking a safari trip in Africa.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: March 01, 2011 02:24PM
Paul- for you, I'd suggest a trip to the Playboy mansion, and enjoying the eats at Pink's (hot dogs), Tommy's (chili burgers), Phillipe's (french dip sammies), Jody Maroni's (gourmet sausages), etc. while in LA, then venturing over the hill into the SFV, pron capital of the world, where somebody you meet at the mansion will have gotten you at least a co-starring role in a major new pron flick. Bring your toys, and blast away at ranges in Angeles Crest, and maybe at a jaunt up to the Kern County line, before packing up cutting back to beach and then driving home up the coast. When you're done, compare your trip w/ pinkoos' kids' trip to Disneyland here in the forum, and see who had more fun. thumbsup smiley



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Jimmypoo
Date: March 01, 2011 02:32PM
IN HER PRIVATES!!!!


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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: March 01, 2011 02:36PM
She had the itinerary of locations planned out. How long she stayed in each location was generally dependent on how the travel plans got finalized.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: jdc
Date: March 01, 2011 02:37PM
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Bicycling/backpacking the unspoiled lands and rain forests of Tibet, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Siberia and the 49 states.

Now, see, that sounds like "work" -- a lot of it.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: testcase
Date: March 01, 2011 02:54PM
I'd give serious thought to Australia. Just about the other side of the world for me. Never having been there, I think it could qualify as a "Dream Vacation". Once there, sailing, SCUBA diving, horses, rent a small plane for some flight seeing, barbecues. I could easily fill two weeks!
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: March 01, 2011 03:04PM
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I would buy an old classic sports car for around $5k, something horribly unreliable, and then spend said weeks driving(or attempting to drive) the car around the US stopping at coffee shops.

Soooo...like an episode of Top Gear.

And the wife and I would probably go to Paris and just see where that leads. We've always wanted to go back. Hell...20k would probably pay for the first class seats to get there.




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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: rz
Date: March 01, 2011 03:15PM
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A friend went on an around the world trip for about... $14k(?). It took 13 months. She briefly worked in some spots and waited for deals on travel. Got busted riding the subway without a pass/token in some EU country. Abbreviated preliminary itinerary: Honduras, Peru, Argentina, New Zealand, Bali, Nepal, China, trans-Siberian railway to Russia, Norway, Spain.

Buddy of mine did the same thing several years ago. Took a year off work and went all over the world. Did basically all of Europe, Morocco, Australia, New Zealand and a few other places I can't remember. He stayed mostly in "youth" hostels (even though he was around 40 at the time). He made a lot of local friends who would invite him to stay with them. Someone in Australia basically gave him an old beat up car which he used to get around for about a month, then exchanged it for 2 weeks' accomodation at a hotel near Sydney. He said the whole trip cost less than $10K. I helped him with some computer stuff a few years ago, and the videos and pictures from his trip took up something like 120 GB in his computer.

If it were me, I'd be SCUBA diving throughout the South Pacific.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: billb
Date: March 01, 2011 03:25PM
Can I have another 60K and a few extra days off and hop on the Queen Mary 2 for the 108 day round the world cruise ?



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 01, 2011 03:26PM
During the 1991 Gulf War, I bought a round-trip ticket from Dallas to Paris for $300, bought a Eurail Pass for $300 and traveled from Paris through Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Saulzburg, Zurich, Nancy (France), and back to Paris in 21 days. I stayed with customers, slept in the train and only spent one night in a hotel. The whole trip cost less than $900.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: kap
Date: March 01, 2011 03:35PM
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During the 1991 Gulf War, I bought a round-trip ticket from Dallas to Paris for $300, bought a Eurail Pass for $300 and traveled from Paris through Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Saulzburg, Zurich, Nancy (France), and back to Paris in 21 days. I stayed with customers, slept in the train and only spent one night in a hotel. The whole trip cost less than $900.

Now that is one smart/wise travel plan!



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: MacArtist
Date: March 01, 2011 04:15PM
Ever since I started riding motorcycles, I've wanted to tour Europe. I don't know if it would cost $20K but wouldn't have to worry too much with that many $$.

Just take it nice an easy. Stop when I want. Ride when I want. No iron butt competition going on there.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Mini 9
Date: March 01, 2011 04:29PM
I would flip a coin and decide between my TWO types of vacations.

1. Go somewhere with a nice climate and sit on the beach and do nothing.
2. Go to an area I have never been before and try to drive as far as I can and take in as much as I can, and see what I see and do simple things, but nothing that delays me from getting to the next place.

A cruise is like the worst of both worlds. (I have not ready ANY replies yet).

I am also thinking about weaving in a third option in travel plans and that would be to travel somewhere and see how I could live there until I travel/live somewhere else.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: (vikm)
Date: March 01, 2011 05:04PM
Paul... All expenses paid? I'm most agreeable to your initial post. Jimmypoo's was in no way a bad idea either.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: zeppo2
Date: March 01, 2011 05:05PM
Same thing I usually do--find a good apartment in Paris and settle in for the three weeks. Three weeks is just enough time to get into a good routine (where to get the morning pain au chocolat et cafe, what cafe to have an afternoon pitcher of house wine, find a place to get the evening oysters). I've done this three times for about that long of a period, and by the end I feel more relaxed than if I'd gone to Maui or travelled to multiple destinations. So when do I get that check?
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Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 01, 2011 05:37PM
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Same thing I usually do--find a good apartment in Paris and settle in for the three weeks. Three weeks is just enough time to get into a good routine (where to get the morning pain au chocolat et cafe, what cafe to have an afternoon pitcher of house wine, find a place to get the evening oysters). I've done this three times for about that long of a period, and by the end I feel more relaxed than if I'd gone to Maui or travelled to multiple destinations. So when do I get that check?

This sounds grand. I've been to Paris four times now, but the longest any single trip has been was eight days. Three weeks there would be perfect (my wife agrees).



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 01, 2011 06:47PM
vkim;

I wouldn't say "all expenses paid", but for the trip I outlined my quick back-of-the-post-it-note math guesstimated that excluding air fares, $20K would get me from london to at least vladivostok with some money for food and entertainment.


The Paris thing sounds pretty nice.. but there's places I'd go first...
Venice, Tuscany, Greece (maybe), Iceland (don't really know why), and a second trip to the United Kingdom (first coming up this summer).

I like the Trans-Siberian railway extended trip because of the expansive nature - and the reasonable cost (compared to "full blown" first class travel packages, that is).



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: maco
Date: March 01, 2011 07:11PM
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A friend went on an around the world trip for about... $14k(?). It took 13 months. She briefly worked in some spots and waited for deals on travel. Got busted riding the subway without a pass/token in some EU country. Abbreviated preliminary itinerary: Honduras, Peru, Argentina, New Zealand, Bali, Nepal, China, trans-Siberian railway to Russia, Norway, Spain.

My wife and I took just over 3 months for our honeymoon. We traveled around the world with one carry-on bag each.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 01, 2011 07:13PM
I have heard the best way to travel is either with lots of money or almost no money.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: kap
Date: March 01, 2011 07:28PM
Before y'all go on your dream vacation, you must first be able to remove yourself from this forum!



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 01, 2011 07:41PM
HA! No I don't...
That's what an iPad with 3G is for! :-)



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: March 01, 2011 07:52PM
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During the 1991 Gulf War, I bought a round-trip ticket from Dallas to Paris for $300, bought a Eurail Pass for $300 and traveled from Paris through Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Saulzburg, Zurich, Nancy (France), and back to Paris in 21 days. I stayed with customers, slept in the train and only spent one night in a hotel. The whole trip cost less than $900.

I got stuck in Cabo, watching the war at a local bar on CNN. We were staying at some friends' condo, and driving their "guest" beater car, a late 1960's Ford station wagon. Ended up staying almost an extra two weeks until we could catch a flight back. No where near as scenic, or historic, just similarly frugal travel during a wartime vacation. Those first few days while the U.S and allies locked up control of the airspace over there were made even more terrifying by being out of the country. For $20K, Paul should do something at least equally exciting and memorable, but much less stressful and hopefully filled w/ more "fun" fun (and good eats, and no internet until the trip is over).



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 01, 2011 08:19PM
Being an American, I only speak English and I prefer vacationing in a place where that limitation isn't.



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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 01, 2011 08:23PM
Eh.... English, a little german, a phrasebook, a good attitude and a big smile is usually enough to get a guy by.



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Posted by: maco
Date: March 01, 2011 08:56PM
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I have heard the best way to travel is either with lots of money or almost no money.

Our around the world trip was certainly on a low budget.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: Black
Date: March 01, 2011 09:28PM
Been hankering for some Spanish immersion.
Would probably check out a few places in southern Mexico, and use the other $15k for a private security force.




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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: maco
Date: March 01, 2011 09:41PM
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Been hankering for some Spanish immersion.
Would probably check out a few places in southern Mexico, and use the other $15k for a private security force.

Back in my bachelor days I used to fly to Merida or Cancun each year where I would rent a VW Bug. I then would drive many a road big and small touring the archeological sites both big and small. I really liked the state of Chiapas.
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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: decay
Date: March 01, 2011 10:28PM
i'd like to intern for Anthony Bourdain if i could join him on his food/drink adventures.

alternately: Fiji.

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Re: So if you were planning a "dream vacation" - where would you go?
Posted by: davester
Date: March 02, 2011 11:27AM
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Being an American, I only speak English and I prefer vacationing in a place where that limitation isn't.

As Paul noted, language is seldom an issue when traveling unless you have a bad attitude. Sticking to english-speaking countries will severely limit your ability to experience interesting cultures and fascinating places.



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