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Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: March 26, 2012 07:01AM
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Apple is being sued by an 83-year-old lady who broke her nose on a glass door while visiting its retail store in Manhasset, New York. Evelyn Paswall wants $75,000 in medical expenses, in addition to punitive damages for negligence totaling $1 million.





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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: March 26, 2012 07:06AM
Cue the Windex Magpies.......

It's a pity that this lady was injured though. Most people do recognize that tables filled with iOS goodness would probably be protected from the elements thought. There are many other shops with clear glass fronts.

One hopes she does not win, and all Glass doors have to be covered with 'idiot' stickers that act as lawyer repellent.
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: rgG
Date: March 26, 2012 07:07AM
Apple wants to be cool and modern and have the type of architecture that would appeal to the tech crowd, but on the other hand, they have to appreciate the danger that this high-tech modern architecture poses to some people.

Yes, people who don't pay attention to where they are going. People will sue over anything.





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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: billb
Date: March 26, 2012 07:13AM
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cbelt3


One hopes she does not win, and all Glass doors have to be covered with 'idiot' stickers that act as lawyer repellent.

They already are in most places around here, usually clearly marked in or out when apr0priate, too. any panels near the doors have a stripe of some sort at chest height.
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: March 26, 2012 07:19AM
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cbelt3
One hopes she does not win, and all Glass doors have to be covered with 'idiot' stickers that act as lawyer repellent.

From another story:

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Last year, Apple had white stickers installed on the transparent glass of all Apple Stores to help prevent such collisions from occurring. However, the plaintiff's lawyer says that any markings that were on the glass are insufficient, saying his "client is an octogenarian. She sees well, but she did not see any glass.”

[www.macrumors.com]

My question is now does an 83 year old walk fast enough to break their nose when hitting a wall?
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: March 26, 2012 07:22AM
Same thing happened to me at the building where we were storing office furniture after closing our medical practice. Next to an inner door is a full-length glass panel ('light'). I was looking past the entryway trying to see a customer, whom I was talking to on a cell phone, and I walked smack into the glass. Fortunately it was laminated (safety) glass, so it cracked in circles where my knee it it, but did not shatter. Banged my nose, too.

Cell phones can be distracting, even to walkers!

Cost me $500 to replace the glass.

/Mr Lynn



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 26, 2012 07:33AM
Here's hoping Apple uses some of it's $100 billion to swamp her attorney into submission. Pay her actual, verified, legitimate medical expenses and give her a $25 itunes card. This is obviously an attorney looking for a juicy settlement.

Besides at 83, it's not like she will be a longtime customer



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: March 26, 2012 07:41AM
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Lux Interior
My question is now does an 83 year old walk fast enough to break their nose when hitting a wall?
Geriatric bones and cartilages are very weak, especially in women. Not really a surprise.
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: raz
Date: March 26, 2012 08:26AM
From a different perspective ...

A co-worker was returning to the office one winter's day carrying two bottles of liquor. He slipped on some ice in the parking lot, and he cut his hands on the broken glass when the bottles broke.

The hospital stitched him up, and he was back at work in a few hours.

The building owner's lawyers were on the phone the next day to get him to settle. After protesting that he, himself, was entirely at fault here and had no intention of suing, the money quote was

"What is the smallest number I can give you to end this conversation?"
"$1,000"
"I'll settle for $1,000"



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: March 26, 2012 08:41AM
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raz
A co-worker was returning to the office one winter's day carrying two bottles of liquor.

I was expecting this to end up like "He smelled of liquor, so they figured he was drunk and he got fired."
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: billb
Date: March 26, 2012 08:49AM
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Lux Interior
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cbelt3
One hopes she does not win, and all Glass doors have to be covered with 'idiot' stickers that act as lawyer repellent.

From another story:

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Last year, Apple had white stickers installed on the transparent glass of all Apple Stores to help prevent such collisions from occurring. However, the plaintiff's lawyer says that any markings that were on the glass are insufficient, saying his "client is an octogenarian. She sees well, but she did not see any glass.”

[www.macrumors.com]

My question is now does an 83 year old walk fast enough to break their nose when hitting a wall?


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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: March 26, 2012 08:58AM
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Ohhh! She ran into the door. That explains it!
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: onthedownlow
Date: March 26, 2012 08:58AM
Most Apple Stores have one or two of its 40+ 'standing around' workers opening up the doors in/our anyhow (at least most of the time), so Apple will likely just make sure this is the case the majority of the time.



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: billb
Date: March 26, 2012 09:10AM
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Lux Interior

Ohhh! She ran into the door. That explains it!
If that works for you.
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Fritz
Date: March 26, 2012 09:20AM
Considering the neighborhood, near me, called the Miracle Mile, a case of the 1% looking for the rest.
Fcskin idiot!



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: davester
Date: March 26, 2012 09:27AM
People file lawsuits for all sorts of ridiculous things all the time. That's not newsworthy. It's only news if someone wins a judgement for something ridiculous.




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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Robert M
Date: March 26, 2012 09:35AM
Hi everyone,

I've seen people walk into the patio door of their own home. Why not a glass door or wall at an Apple Store? Easily within the realm of possibility. Same goes for the injuries.

One thing I do question is Fritz's comment. I think it's wrong to make assumptions about the woman just because she goes to that particular store. Sure, the Apple Store may be in the "Miracle Mile" mall in Manhasset. The vast majority of the stores in that shopping center are luxury and high end but people from all over the place go there for the Apple Store.

It's much easier to deal with than the other Nassau County store which is in the Roosevelt Field mall in Garden City. Heck, I avoid the one in the mall like the plague! It's that insane over there.

Robert



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/2012 10:06AM by Robert M.
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: March 26, 2012 09:55AM
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billb
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cbelt3
One hopes she does not win, and all Glass doors have to be covered with 'idiot' stickers that act as lawyer repellent.
They already are in most places around here, usually clearly marked in or out when apr0priate, too. any panels near the doors have a stripe of some sort at chest height.

Could that be because they know you live in the area Bill? winking smiley

Paul



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Uncle Wig
Date: March 26, 2012 10:00AM
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Ombligo
Here's hoping Apple uses some of it's $100 billion to swamp her attorney into submission. Pay her actual, verified, legitimate medical expenses and give her a $25 itunes card. This is obviously an attorney looking for a juicy settlement.

Besides at 83, it's not like she will be a longtime customer

That's a pretty mean-spirited remark.

Whether her lawsuit has merit or not, I can't say. People do walk into glass doors & walls fairly often so I'm inclined to think this isn't as outrageous as many other lawsuits. And this statement is entirely true about Apple:

“The stereotypical Apple customer is a Gen-Y person or a teenager or a college student, but they have to realize that the elderly generation are their customers, too”




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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Buzz
Date: March 26, 2012 10:11AM
C'mon, who here hasn't walked face first into a glass door or wall?

We'd all be rich if we got a million bucks every time that happened.
Is Mildred gonna sue her sister, Sadie, when she walk into Sadie's living room window?

Ms. Paswell's nephew, or similar, is probably a lawyer. I feel sorry for the old broad, and can see Apple paying medical expenses as a goodwill gesture, but a million bucks because the old bitty was too negligent to stay home, just doesn't fly...


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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: March 26, 2012 10:21AM
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Buzz
C'mon, who here hasn't walked face first into a glass door or wall?

Er, how about me? Never in my 60 years.

Paul



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: billb
Date: March 26, 2012 10:23AM
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voodoopenguin
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billb
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cbelt3
One hopes she does not win, and all Glass doors have to be covered with 'idiot' stickers that act as lawyer repellent.
They already are in most places around here, usually clearly marked in or out when apr0priate, too. any panels near the doors have a stripe of some sort at chest height.

Could that be because they know you live in the area Bill? winking smiley

Paul

Of course, even the establishments I don't frequent..
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 26, 2012 10:30AM
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Buzz
C'mon, who here hasn't walked face first into a glass door or wall?

Once when I was a little kid when I was at someone else's house.

Sliding glass doors were an unknown to me then. Going face first into one is an education.
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: graylocks
Date: March 26, 2012 10:46AM
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Buzz
C'mon, who here hasn't walked face first into a glass door or wall?

We'd all be rich if we got a million bucks every time that happened.
Is Mildred gonna sue her sister, Sadie, when she walk into Sadie's living room window?

Ms. Paswell's nephew, or similar, is probably a lawyer. I feel sorry for the old broad, and can see Apple paying medical expenses as a goodwill gesture, but a million bucks because the old bitty was too negligent to stay home, just doesn't fly...


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while i agree with the sentiment that it's a frivolous lawsuit, i am really taken aback by your tone here. broad? old bitty? too negligent to stay home - as if old people have no right to be out? the contempt here is somewhat surprising. maybe you're being facetious. i would like to think so and not remain with the impression that you hold so little regard for old people and women.



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: decay
Date: March 26, 2012 01:37PM
OK.

so you walk into a glass door, at your own home, where you know it by heart. whom do you sue?

you walk into a glass door at an Apple store and somehow it's their fault?
was the glass moving?





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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: (vikm)
Date: March 26, 2012 01:41PM
There is no self accountability anymore and it's sad. This lawsuit is nonsense.
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: mikebw
Date: March 26, 2012 01:47PM
I walked into a screen door once at night where I couldn't see there was a screen. Certainly not as painful as walking into glass I imagine, but equally as shocking and embarrassing.
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Fritz
Date: March 26, 2012 02:11PM
"One thing I do question is Fritz's comment. I think it's wrong to make assumptions about the woman just because she goes to that particular store. Sure, the Apple Store may be in the "Miracle Mile" mall in Manhasset. The vast majority of the stores in that shopping center are luxury and high end but people from all over the place go there for the Apple Store."

I was just being snotty. It is just so ridiculous as others have pointed.
But then there was the MickyDs hot coffee suit. Feh!

Sue ConRegress. I wish they'd find the door.



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: olnacl
Date: March 26, 2012 03:03PM
Geez - I've banged into my glass patio doors a couple times in the 11 years I've owned this house. I wonder if I could find a lawyer who would let me sue myself for being dumb. Sorry about her nose though. So far all I've suffered is a need to clean the window of nose oil afterwards. Wonder if Apple considered countersuing for the cleanup work?
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Janit
Date: March 26, 2012 03:16PM
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Fritz
I was just being snotty. It is just so ridiculous as others have pointed.
But then there was the MickyDs hot coffee suit. Feh!

The complainant in the MickyD lawsuit suffered third degree burns, requiring numerous skin grafts and 8 days of hospitalization. Although the popular press has spun it otherwise, this was NOT a frivolous lawsuit.
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: March 26, 2012 03:26PM
I think building owners and architects have a responsibility to watch out for obvious hazards. Large plate-glass doors and adjacent panes (like the one I walked into) are hazards that are easily ameliorated by simple (yet still aesthetically-appealing) measures, like a stylish bar midway across the glass.

You don't have to be 83 years old to have poor eyesight. Apple would never put a step down right at the door, or some other land mine for the inattentive. IMO Apple bears some responsibility for the incident, though obviously not a million dollars worth. That's clearly just a starting point. They should be magnanimous, offer to pay the lady's medical bills, give her a free iPad, and maybe $10 grand cash, and send her and a companion on a nice vacation to the Caribbean.

Then they should make sure no one will walk into a glass door at an Apple Store again.

/Mr Lynn
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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Buzz
Date: March 26, 2012 03:30PM
Er, how about me? Never in my 60 years.

You Brits lie about everything... heck, your schools barely acknowledge the "American War of Independence"... :-)
Everyone knows you've accidentally walked into something, you ain't foolin' anybody around here.

Once when I was a little kid when I was at someone else's house.

Sliding glass doors were an unknown to me then. Going face first into one is an education.


See, a partial truth-telling yank... admits it, but blames it on youthful naivete... doesn't cop to it past puberty... :-)


while i agree with the sentiment that it's a frivolous lawsuit, i am really taken aback by your tone here. broad? old bitty? too negligent to stay home - as if old people have no right to be out? the contempt here is somewhat surprising. maybe you're being facetious. i would like to think so and not remain with the impression that you hold so little regard for old people and women.

geez, gray, just because the shoe *almost* fits, is no reason to get your knickers in a twist...! Of course I have no regard for women or old people; especially old women that don't have enough sense to not walk into things they're supposed to only look through. Take a chill pill; the "condescending" descriptors were only there to emphasize the frivolity of the situation... both in the original post, and now in this one :-) (the forum readers just gotta have fun).
I'm not saying old people don't have the right to go out, but if there's a chance they're gonna do a face plant into a window, they oughta have somebody with 'em to help out so that doesn't happen; and if they don't, they oughta take responsibility for where they plant their face, without expecting the window's owner to pay for their mishap. Evelyn Paswall and Stella Liebeck are probably relatives... The simple fact that occasionally a frivolous lawsuit is richly rewarded, inspires lotsa lawyers to keep filing 'em; now, if the losing lawyer was imprisoned, or better yet, executed (live on television), it would eventually cut down on frivolous lawsuits.
Seriously gray, "facetious" would've been my middle name, if only my parents could spell.


OK.

so you walk into a glass door, at your own home, where you know it by heart. whom do you sue?

you walk into a glass door at an Apple store and somehow it's their fault?
was the glass moving?


==

There is no self accountability anymore and it's sad. This lawsuit is nonsense.

Thankfully, some people get it.

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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Spock
Date: March 26, 2012 05:13PM
Aw c'mon, she'll need a million to pay for a really good seeing eye dog.






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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 26, 2012 10:20PM
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But then there was the MickyDs hot coffee suit. Feh!

The complainant in the MickyD lawsuit suffered third degree burns

TO HER GROIN.



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Re: Apple sued by woman who slammed face into glass at store
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: March 27, 2012 07:25AM
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Er, how about me? Never in my 60 years.

Me neither. But I haven't been training for a marathon, so that could be the reason.
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