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the future is almost here!

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I see nothing in this article making a compelling argument for waiting.

I can't copy/paste on this verdammte work PC but the final note is something like "wait a few months to see if prices drop," and there's verbiage to the effect that going SSD doesn't make sense for most until drives big enough to hold all one's files are easily affordable. I think it's going to be years before that point is reached still.
I have my second SSD on the way and no regrets-- money well spent even if the price halves in 6 months.

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The time savings I'm seeing right now from my $130 128GB SSD is more than worth any potential price reductions in the next several months...even if they're giving the things away by then!

And this is on a computer that's already 5 years old.

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I see nothing in this article making a compelling argument for waiting.

I can't copy/paste on this verdammte work PC but the final note is something like "wait a few months to see if prices drop," and there's verbiage to the effect that going SSD doesn't make sense for most until drives big enough to hold all one's files are easily affordable. I think it's going to be years before that point is reached still.
I have my second SSD on the way and no regrets-- money well spent even if the price halves in 6 months.

Hi Black, I agree for many folks it is money well spent to jump now, but in my case on a MacPro there is no need to hurry and I can wait to see how it all develops. OWC just announced some newfangled PCI solid state card with capacities up to 940GB so the capacity issue is near resolution, albeit at a rather high cost of nearly $2095 as I remember in the announcement. Hopefully this coming price war will help in that department.

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Really no surprises here, we are blessed to benefit from a field where things seems to get faster, better and less expensive at a breakneck speed. All of can think back to ridiculous prices paid in the past for various components, such as RAM and pitifully small HD's. Larry and his crew do an excellent job of helping us all move forward as quickly as possible.

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Glad I decided to wait for the dust to settle, seems the future is bright for those of us that have waited.


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I see nothing in this article making a compelling argument for waiting.

I can't copy/paste on this verdammte work PC but the final note is something like "wait a few months to see if prices drop," and there's verbiage to the effect that going SSD doesn't make sense for most until drives big enough to hold all one's files are easily affordable. I think it's going to be years before that point is reached still.
I have my second SSD on the way and no regrets-- money well spent even if the price halves in 6 months.

Hi Black, I agree for many folks it is money well spent to jump now, but in my case on a MacPro there is no need to hurry and I can wait to see how it all develops. OWC just announced some newfangled PCI solid state card with capacities up to 940GB so the capacity issue is near resolution, albeit at a rather high cost of nearly $2095 as I remember in the announcement. Hopefully this coming price war will help in that department.

[eshop.macsales.com]

Really no surprises here, we are blessed to benefit from a field where things seems to get faster, better and less expensive at a breakneck speed. All of can think back to ridiculous prices paid in the past for various components, such as RAM and pitifully small HD's. Larry and his crew do an excellent job of helping us all move forward as quickly as possible.

Hi Tortoise,
I don't get the "Larry and his crew" reference. Is OWC driving developments in the SSD market and forcing lower prices?

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Glad I decided to wait for the dust to settle, seems the future is bright for those of us that have waited.


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I see nothing in this article making a compelling argument for waiting.

I can't copy/paste on this verdammte work PC but the final note is something like "wait a few months to see if prices drop," and there's verbiage to the effect that going SSD doesn't make sense for most until drives big enough to hold all one's files are easily affordable. I think it's going to be years before that point is reached still.
I have my second SSD on the way and no regrets-- money well spent even if the price halves in 6 months.

Hi Black, I agree for many folks it is money well spent to jump now, but in my case on a MacPro there is no need to hurry and I can wait to see how it all develops. OWC just announced some newfangled PCI solid state card with capacities up to 940GB so the capacity issue is near resolution, albeit at a rather high cost of nearly $2095 as I remember in the announcement. Hopefully this coming price war will help in that department.

[eshop.macsales.com]

Really no surprises here, we are blessed to benefit from a field where things seems to get faster, better and less expensive at a breakneck speed. All of can think back to ridiculous prices paid in the past for various components, such as RAM and pitifully small HD's. Larry and his crew do an excellent job of helping us all move forward as quickly as possible.

Hi Tortoise,
I don't get the "Larry and his crew" reference. Is OWC driving developments in the SSD market and forcing lower prices?

Silly question, rather argumentative are we?

No I was just giving credit to Larry and his crew for the wide range of excellent products that are often trailblazing leaders in the field and yet reasonably priced. The Qx2 Raid enclosure is one example and the Mercury Accelsior Raid is another that spring to mind as examples.

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Glad I decided to wait for the dust to settle, seems the future is bright for those of us that have waited.


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I see nothing in this article making a compelling argument for waiting.

I can't copy/paste on this verdammte work PC but the final note is something like "wait a few months to see if prices drop," and there's verbiage to the effect that going SSD doesn't make sense for most until drives big enough to hold all one's files are easily affordable. I think it's going to be years before that point is reached still.
I have my second SSD on the way and no regrets-- money well spent even if the price halves in 6 months.

Hi Black, I agree for many folks it is money well spent to jump now, but in my case on a MacPro there is no need to hurry and I can wait to see how it all develops. OWC just announced some newfangled PCI solid state card with capacities up to 940GB so the capacity issue is near resolution, albeit at a rather high cost of nearly $2095 as I remember in the announcement. Hopefully this coming price war will help in that department.

[eshop.macsales.com]

Really no surprises here, we are blessed to benefit from a field where things seems to get faster, better and less expensive at a breakneck speed. All of can think back to ridiculous prices paid in the past for various components, such as RAM and pitifully small HD's. Larry and his crew do an excellent job of helping us all move forward as quickly as possible.

Hi Tortoise,
I don't get the "Larry and his crew" reference. Is OWC driving developments in the SSD market and forcing lower prices?

Silly question, rather argumentative are we?

No I was just giving credit to Larry and his crew for the wide range of excellent products that are often trailblazing leaders in the field and yet reasonably priced. The Qx2 Raid enclosure is one example and the Mercury Accelsior Raid is another that spring to mind as examples.

The notion that OWC is driving developments in the SSD market is silly?
Can you elaborate?

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Digitimes claims that this effort by these companies is not only to help them command the market, but also improve it by removing retailers who use inferior SSD technology.
As a result of this impending price war, if you are planning on upgrading your system with an SSD, you might consider waiting for a few months to watch the market and see how much prices fall.

That whole article is pretty much a filler piece. It's so general it could have been written about anything. The real red flag is that the author quoted Dgitimes. They have a pretty bad track record for market savvy and trend predicting.

Except that anybody can say "Wait-- prices are going to get cheaper". That bit of wisdom ranks right up there with "If they just dropped the price of [ insert any Apple product name here] by $300, they fly off the shelves!"

If in the next two weeks, SSD prices are cut in half, I still won't regret the latest acquisition. It's been fun playing with it, and I've got *my* money's worth. It's the same as getting my iPhone 2G (or was it the 3GS) and Apple dropping the price a couple of months later. Had I known, I still would not have waited.

Simple Rule of Acquisition #6-- If you don't need or want new tech now, don't buy it now. It will only get cheaper.

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We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

-An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

There is no safety for honest men
except by believing all possible evil
of evil men.

Pixels were born to be punished. -Frederick Van Johnson

Mister, that's a ten-gallon hat on a twenty-gallon head.

I *love* Sigs. It's Glocks I hate.

Love my SSDs. They have all been fantastic upgrades.

Always like cheaper tech, but I don't regret my ssd purchases at all.

Simple Rule of Acquisition #6-- If you don't need or want new tech now, don't buy it now. It will only get cheaper.

Certainly applies to a lot of current tech stuff, but lots of legacy tech stuff goes back up as the supply dries up. For this reason, I tend to pick up some spares of likely needed consumables/commodities when I sense they're bottoming out, and I, or clients, have machines that use them. Sometimes it turns out to be a wise decision, sometimes not. I'm sitting on a pair of new 750GB 3.5" PATA drives that I got for about $70/ea, that will cost you $275 and up, today. They're backup for the handful of machines here that use them. Also a few RAM sticks are in reserve that would cost double, or more to replace. Also, don't tell anybody, but I've got four new Micro$haft Trackball Explorers in reserve, backing up the two well used ones that have been in service for years; best darn trackball, ever, for many users. When they discontinued them, they actually dropped in price at first (which is when I acquired the last batch), then have skyrocketed since they're no longer available. There's a cottage industry to service old ones, and the service costs about what the new ones cost when they were in production.

Basically, I think Rule #6 needs to be abridged to-- If you don't need or want new tech now, don't buy it now, (unless you think you might need it later and it will no longer be readily available). It will only get cheaper (until you have a need for it when it's no longer current tech).

Certain technologies, like floppy, syquest, and zip disks get replaced, never to be seen or needed again, but more essential components of working computers may have greater longevity in order keep supporting them. Just sayin'.

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What are the trade offs putting the OS and applications on the SSD and the rest of your files on a regular SATA hard drive?

I am using approximately 700GB of a 1TB hard drive, so is it possible that the predicted price drops might allow for a comparable drive to store my present data?

Would it be better to go with the smallest SSD drive that could hold the OS and all of my applications.

My applications Folder is roughly 13-14GB. So what size SSD would allow for both the OS and my applications.

Does a set up like this, OS and applications on one drive and all the rest of the files on another, work as seamlessly as when everything on one drive?

Thanks for any ideas about how to do this.

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What are the trade offs putting the OS and applications on the SSD and the rest of your files on a regular SATA hard drive?
=For the most part your experience is like having only SSD speed
=Downside-- slightly more complicated backup scheme?

I am using approximately 700GB of a 1TB hard drive, so is it possible that the predicted price drops might allow for a comparable drive to store my present data?
=There really is no predicted price drop.
A 1 TB SSD is going to be out of reach for several years still.

Would it be better to go with the smallest SSD drive that could hold the OS and all of my applications.
=From a price vs. benefit standpoint, yes.
My applications Folder is roughly 13-14GB. So what size SSD would allow for both the OS and my applications.
=I wouldn't go with anything smaller than 64.
I also have about 700 GB on my internal, and chose a 128 SSD; got about 55 GB free still and that's fine.
Remember virtual memory swap files and such.

Does a set up like this, OS and applications on one drive and all the rest of the files on another, work as seamlessly as when everything on one drive?

=Pretty much. But-- to make your life easier--where do you keep your large files?
I'd recommend putting everything on the SSD, but keeping your user/documents, user/movies, user/pictures, user/music folders on the HDD and aliasing to them.

It sounds like you've got it pretty much figured out already.

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It sounds like you've got it pretty much figured out already.[/i]

Not really, but thanks for sharing your experience!

You wrote in answer to this question: "Does a set up like this, OS and applications on one drive and all the rest of the files on another, work as seamlessly as when everything on one drive?"

"=Pretty much. But-- to make your life easier--where do you keep your large files?
I'd recommend putting everything on the SSD, but keeping your user/documents, user/movies, user/pictures, user/music folders on the HDD and aliasing to them."

I'm not clear about your meaning. What do you mean by "large files?"

I don't get what you mean by your recommendation to put "everything" on the SSD. Doesn't that then require a full size SSD?

Black, my friend, please break your suggestions down to clearer specifics, if you can?

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It sounds like you've got it pretty much figured out already.[/i]

Not really, but thanks for sharing your experience!

You wrote in answer to this question: "Does a set up like this, OS and applications on one drive and all the rest of the files on another, work as seamlessly as when everything on one drive?"

"=Pretty much. But-- to make your life easier--where do you keep your large files?
I'd recommend putting everything on the SSD, but keeping your user/documents, user/movies, user/pictures, user/music folders on the HDD and aliasing to them."

I'm not clear about your meaning. What do you mean by "large files?"

I don't get what you mean by your recommendation to put "everything" on the SSD. Doesn't that then require a full size SSD?

Black, my friend, please break your suggestions down to clearer specifics, if you can?

It goes like this:
-assuming the bulk of your 700 GB of files is living in one or more of the user folders I named
-You do a complete clone of your hard drive to the SSD, but deselect all the contents of the folders that contain the bulk of your stored media/documents/photos
-You create aliases to those 1,2, or 5 folders, put them on the SSD in their normal place, remove "alias" from the folder name
-Boot from SSD, enjoy.

Hence the question-- where do you store the bulk of "your" files? In which folders?
Where is the bulk of that 700 GB?

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600GB (Intel) is the largest SSD I've seen in 2.5" form factor.