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'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: April 30, 2012 06:36AM
My daughter and her husband are looking at cheap push lawnmowers:

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Opinions on which of these cheapo lawn mowers would be better?

[www.tractorsupply.com]

vs. a similarly priced one from Lowes (there are a couple in this list):

[www.lowes.com]|0 [www.lowes.com]

The Huskee has a Powermore engine, which I had never heard of. Some online forums suggest it is a Chinese-made Honda knockoff. Anyone know anything?

The one from Lowes has a Briggs and Stratton engine; they've always worked for me.

Daughter's husband wants to convert the engine to propane (he's done this before, because the gas engines aggravate his asthma); any idea which engine would better handle the conversion?

/Mr Lynn



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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: April 30, 2012 07:14AM
Haven't heard of PowerMore. Also, TroyBilt sold out to MTD several years ago. I don't think that it's the same quality since.


How much does he expect to spend on the propane conversion? He might want to look at a good battery powered lawn mower, such as the Neuton instead.

[www.neutonpower.com]
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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: April 30, 2012 08:32AM
From what I have read recently on the small engine technical forums, the PowerMore engines are made by LCT engine. They took over the old Tecumseh engine line after they folded last year. They appear to be designed in the US but likely built in China, and as you said some resemble the Honda GX200 series.

I would do some digging around for parts suppliers before committing to one, but they do seem to be showing up on many brands now. My gut would tell me to go with the B&S over the LCT (for now) because he is going to tinker with it. I would not be surprised if B&S had a bolt on propane solution available off the shelf.

Hmmm <edit>

I just came across this on the PowerMore web site : About MTD & PowerMore™ Engines


at the bottom of the page

"Powermore™ is a brand of outdoor power equipment small engines developed exclusively by MTD in conjunction with their manufacturing partner in China. MTD engine specialists are directly involved in the design and manufacturing to ensure the quality and dependability that MTD is known for... "

Not sure if LCT is involve as a partner, but I swore many years ago never to give MTD another dime if I could avoid it.

Unfortunately MTD owns just about every consumer brand these days of partners with them. Those Bolens at Lowes (a once proud old name) is also owned by MTD but at least the engine is B&S and you will be able to get parts.







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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: April 30, 2012 08:49AM
Thanks, Lafinfil. Good point about the B&S for tinkering. There are a LOT of those engines out there.

Macphanatic: They have only a small patch of grass to cut (yard is mostly in the woods), so an electric mower might work. The Neuton is expensive, though ($450). I wonder if one with a cord might do as well—hanging the cord in the air, to avoid cutting it.

/Mr Lynn



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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: haikuman
Date: April 30, 2012 08:49AM
What is there budget and how much grass are they cutting. I agree with Phil on B&S they manufacture good engines. The Bolens mower its self may be a little to lightweight and non durable. ymmv



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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: April 30, 2012 08:54AM
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haikuman
What is there budget and how much grass are they cutting. I agree with Phil on B&S they manufacture good engines. The Bolens mower its self may be a little to lightweight and non durable. ymmv

Low (bottom-end) budget. I have almost half an acre of grass that I cut with a low-end push mower (a Poulan with a B&S engine)—works fine, and gives me plenty of exercise. All I do is change the oil and sharpen the blade in the spring, and every couple of years change the sparkplug.

/Mr Lynn
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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: haikuman
Date: April 30, 2012 09:02AM
A low end mower will last a long time if you do the maintenance. Don't wait until the grass is wet or too high to mow and keep your blades sharp. Keeping the underside of the deck clean is also important.



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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: April 30, 2012 09:33AM
The problem with most "low end" (or consumer grade) power equipment these days is the availability of parts once something breaks. MTD is the absolute worst with AYP (Poulan,Weedeater,& some Craftsman) being not far behind. It is not the engine parts but all the rest of the parts(wheels, controls, handles, etc... They constantly redesign and then poorly support replacement parts (if they support at all) I waited over a month last summer for a replacement wheel for a PoulanPro/AYP mower. There was not one available anywhere either locally or online, then it was $40 for a wheel for a 3 year old mower. (rear big wheel)

I would rather buy an older Toro, Snapper, LawnBoy, etc... of craigslist because they are built like tanks to begin with and you will almost always be able to get parts if you need them. If you are OK with disposable (3 to 5 years) then it is not an issue.



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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: April 30, 2012 09:54AM
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lafinfil
The problem with most "low end" (or consumer grade) power equipment these days is the availability of parts once something breaks. . .

Have you tried any of the online parts depots, e.g.:

[www.ereplacementparts.com]

[www.jackssmallengines.com]

and others?

[search.yahoo.com]

But used can be a good way to go. There's a guy in this town who takes old lawnmowers, refurbishes, and sells them. I've given him a couple of dead soldiers just to clear out the garage (usually hand-me downs that I ran until they died, one of body rot, the other of a carburetor fire). But daughter and family live elsewhere, and have little grass. I expect a low-end mower will last them 10 years.

/Mr Lynn



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Honky-tonk Country and Bluegrass
Founded in 1948 by Pappy Ben Minnich
Saturdays 9am - 1pm Eastern
WHRB-FM, Cambridge, MA
Streaming at [www.WHRB.org]
Be there!

New blog! [hillbillyatharvard.wordpress.com]

Even newer blog! [walkingcreekworld.wordpress.com]

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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: lafinfil
Date: April 30, 2012 10:11AM
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mrlynn
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lafinfil
The problem with most "low end" (or consumer grade) power equipment these days is the availability of parts once something breaks. . .

Have you tried any of the online parts depots, e.g.:

[www.ereplacementparts.com]

[www.jackssmallengines.com]

and others?

[search.yahoo.com]

But used can be a good way to go. There's a guy in this town who takes old lawnmowers, refurbishes, and sells them. I've given him a couple of dead soldiers just to clear out the garage (usually hand-me downs that I ran until they died, one of body rot, the other of a carburetor fire). But daughter and family live elsewhere, and have little grass. I expect a low-end mower will last them 10 years.

/Mr Lynn

I've used Jacks & Tulsa Engine Warehouse a bit, but I have a very good local part warehouse that has about everything, or gets it in next day just as cheap or cheaper than online. I have to put up with the old grumpy owner on the counter but I can also pick his brain for help when I need it. They are authorized for Kohler, B&S, Honda, MTD, AYP, Subaru Robin, Suzuki, and just about anyone else you can think of. I also buy used for my Deere garden tractor that is over 35 years old (I also buy and sell used tractors and part)

The problem with the AYP wheels were that they were back ordered from the manufacture so nobody had then and all showed the same delivery date (same as my local guy) It was a very poor design (even the new one wobbles) so I imagine everyone that bought one of these mowers (like my brother-in-law) had the wheels break at the same time. I'm currently looking for a good Toro for him and will sell the Poulan on craigslist.







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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: M>B>
Date: April 30, 2012 11:32AM
Manafactures make propane powered lawnmowers...

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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: April 30, 2012 05:27PM
How small is the plot they have to cut? Do they have a garage or shed? If not, that's all the more reason to go electric/battery. They should store gasoline or propane just anywhere.
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Re: 'Powermore' Lawnmower Engine?
Posted by: Z
Date: April 30, 2012 05:54PM
Real mowers use reel mowers.
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