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[fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 05, 2012 11:43AM
I had this Fenix E20 flashlight for about 2 years. 2AA cells, very bright. Today it didn't work, so I put 2 fresh AA NiMH cells, still didn't work. I left it on the table (MY HUGE MISTAKE HERE) and ran some errands around the house. For the record, there is no way to tell whether it's ON or OFF just by pushing the button.

Anyway, I left it on the table, kid (2 1/2) found it and push the button, open it, took AA cells out, put cells back in, pushed the button a few more times, he saw it doesn't work and left it on the couch. All this time I watched him but didn't think much of it, kids take batteries in and out of toys all the time.

So now I am sitting here and I see a bright light, I look and the flashlight came ON by itself. WTF? I try to reach to shut it off, the damn thing it's HOT. It almost burned me. Luckily I was here and nothing caught fire.
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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: tenders
Date: May 05, 2012 12:08PM
Gosh, I don't think much harm can come from 3 volts worth of energy stored in a pair of AA batteries, but I cannot imagine how any flashlight could meet $31 worth of expectations.
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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 05, 2012 12:28PM
who said $31? there was a super sales, I think I paid ~$15

I think Eneloop AA can put out over 10A...
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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: tenders
Date: May 05, 2012 12:38PM
I didn't mean to assign any blame, just noting that it's a pricy light.

10A at even 3V is only 30 watts. A AA battery can't sustain that for more than a couple of seconds at most. A night light bulb by comparison runs around 5 watts and while it can get hot, it takes a long time to get there and probably can't ignite anything.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/05/2012 12:39PM by tenders.
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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 05, 2012 12:42PM
maybe the couch would not have burned, but when I fond this thing so hot, it freaked me out!

YMMV
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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: Bernie
Date: May 05, 2012 12:44PM
This one will start fires.

See the video. It cooks eggs too.

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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 05, 2012 01:00PM
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Bernie
This one will start fires.

See the video. It cooks eggs too.

4100 Lumens with an Adjustable High Efficiency Reflector

WANT!
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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 05, 2012 02:27PM
in the UK they're called torches.



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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 05, 2012 03:54PM
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tenders
Gosh, I don't think much harm can come from 3 volts worth of energy stored in a pair of AA batteries, but I cannot imagine how any flashlight could meet $31 worth of expectations.

ever been hit with a taser? that jolt is far less energy than is contained in 2 fully charged AA batteries. Ever seen a cellphone melt down from a faulty battery?
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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: tenders
Date: May 05, 2012 05:23PM
C'mon. A taser has been engineered to operate at thousands of volts, not 3, and aren't powered with off-the-shelf batteries. And no, I've never seen much damage done from round AA batteries, alkaline or carbon. Cellphone batteries have diifferent chemistry and much more surface area.
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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 05, 2012 05:38PM
"C'mon. A taser has been engineered to operate at thousands of volts, not 3, and aren't powered with off-the-shelf batteries."

[www.stun-gun-defense-products.com] M26c/M18L TASER runs off of AA batteries

I wonder how a car's ignition system can produce a 60,000 volt spark from a 12 volt lead/acid battery........ What, they can DO that? That's crazy talk!



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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: May 05, 2012 06:30PM
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space-time
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Bernie
This one will start fires.

See the video. It cooks eggs too.

4100 Lumens with an Adjustable High Efficiency Reflector

WANT!

Battery life, 5 minutes....

But what a glorious, bright, shiny, five minutes it would be!!!!!

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Paul F.
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Persistence is necessary for Excellence. And Persistence is a Decision.

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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: tenders
Date: May 06, 2012 08:27AM
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Racer X
"C'mon. A taser has been engineered to operate at thousands of volts, not 3, and aren't powered with off-the-shelf batteries."

[www.stun-gun-defense-products.com] M26c/M18L TASER runs off of AA batteries

I wonder how a car's ignition system can produce a 60,000 volt spark from a 12 volt lead/acid battery........ What, they can DO that? That's crazy talk!

8 AA batteries in the Taser! That's 12V and a good deal more potential energy than two AAs contain. And I've dropped enough metal wrenches on car batteries to know that interesting things can happen with that many volts... times the amps which are available in the many pounds of lead acid technology of a car battery.
[www.stun-gun-defense-products.com]

Just trying to point out that space was probably not going to burn himself, his kid, or his house with the simple cells and technology of the flashlight.
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Re: [fire hazard] Fenix E20 flashlight got HOT!
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: May 06, 2012 10:35AM
My favorite pocket light normally takes a single-CR123a, but can also take a 3.6V CR123a-sized rechrgeable (so I use the latter)

Leave it on high for awhile and it doubles as a hand-warmer.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2012 10:37AM by Bill in NC.
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