"Orbitz Worldwide Inc has found that people who use Apple Inc's Mac computers spend as much as 30 percent more per night on hotels, so the online travel agency is starting to show them different, and sometimes costlier, travel options than Windows visitors see"

and in fairness, Orbitz pointed out that users can opt to rank results by price.

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You can tell a lot about a woman by her hands...
- For example, if they are wrapped around your throat she's probably slightly upset.

Data mining is the same as racial profiling IMHO.

[online.wsj.com]

Wish I could post the full article...

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Good Luck!
Jamie Dresser
Other World Computing

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OWC Jamie
Data mining is the same as racial profiling IMHO.

[online.wsj.com]

Wish I could post the full article...

If you google it you can read the full article, but if you cut and paste a link it goes back to preview version. Click on top link to read full story.

[www.google.com]

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Here we go with misinterpreting what the article is saying...

I saw this on the news last night and wondered how soon it would appear on the forum.

For me, this illustrates how the "insidious" information gathering is being used to manipulate the public.

As more and more statistical information is analysed, those who wish to use the results will have greater and greater ability to manipulate the public.

No doubt, an already scary situation can become much, much scarier, especially with money playing such a huge role in deciding elections. Shame on the Supreme Court!

At least, we belong to an "elite" slice of computer users.

Oh well, as "someone" has said, the solution is "hookers and booze!"



...but, of course, as Mac users, we'll all pay more for that.

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gl @ Dana Point, CA

I for one welcome a higher quality level of hookers and booze. The STD's are easier to treat, and the hangovers are less traumatic.

Back in the day (1950's) my dad insisted on parking the car out of sight of the motel when we were vacationing. His opinion was that seeing us drive up in a 1951 Buick Roadmaster would jack up the room price.

Counterpoint: On our honeymoon in 1965, spring break time in FL my wife and I were refused a room several times (Sorry - no vacancy) I was wearing a tee shirt and shorts. The light dawned and I drove the 61 Cadillac Eldorado ragtop I was driving up to the front door. I immediately got a room at the Marlin Beach Hotel (remember "Where the Boys Are" with a bellhop to help us with our luggage.

So, nothing new - same principles - just modern ways to buy and sell.

To me, this demonstrates the concept of link bait.

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You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

-An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

There is no safety for honest men
except by believing all possible evil
of evil men.

Pixels were born to be punished. -Frederick Van Johnson

Mister, that's a ten-gallon hat on a twenty-gallon head.

I *love* Sigs. It's Glocks I hate.

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OWC Jamie
Data mining is the same as racial profiling IMHO.

[online.wsj.com]

Wish I could post the full article...

I'm no fan of data mining, but to say it's the same as racial profiling reveals a real lack of understanding about what racial profiling is, what it means, and its history and context in America.

Sorry, Jamie - i really value your opinions and expertise, but you're way off the mark here.

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rj
AKA
Vreemac, Moth of the Future

Technically, this is called price discrimination.

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freeradical
Technically, this is called price discrimination.

That's not what is happening. Mac users are being shown more expensive options, not being charged more for the same room.

You wear a Rolex to the Toyota dealer, and the salesperson is going to steer you to the fully loaded Land Cruiser and away from the Camry.

I hope us Mac cheapskates are savvy enough to sort by price!

I agree with OWC Jamie - sites are able to prejudge you due to data mining, like law enforcement can prejudge you for the color of ones skin.

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Lux Interior

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freeradical
Technically, this is called price discrimination.

That's not what is happening. Mac users are being shown more expensive options, not being charged more for the same room.

You wear a Rolex to the Toyota dealer, and the salesperson is going to steer you to the fully loaded Land Cruiser and away from the Camry.

I hope us Mac cheapskates are savvy enough to sort by price!

What would a millionaire expect to get at a Roll Royce dealer when one showed up in a t-shirt full of holes and raggedy shorts?

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West San Gabriel Valley, California ... for the time being

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GeneL
I saw this on the news last night and wondered how soon it would appear on the forum.

For me, this illustrates how the "insidious" information gathering is being used to manipulate the public.

As more and more statistical information is analysed, those who wish to use the results will have greater and greater ability to manipulate the public.

No doubt, an already scary situation can become much, much scarier, especially with money playing such a huge role in deciding elections. Shame on the Supreme Court!

At least, we belong to an "elite" slice of computer users.

Oh well, as "someone" has said, the solution is "hookers and booze!"



...but, of course, as Mac users, we'll all pay more for that.

because we want hookers without virii! right back at ya!

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kap

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Lux Interior

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freeradical
Technically, this is called price discrimination.

That's not what is happening. Mac users are being shown more expensive options, not being charged more for the same room.

You wear a Rolex to the Toyota dealer, and the salesperson is going to steer you to the fully loaded Land Cruiser and away from the Camry.

I hope us Mac cheapskates are savvy enough to sort by price!

What would a millionaire expect to get at a Roll Royce dealer when one showed up in a t-shirt full of holes and raggedy shorts?

Case in point...

...back in the '80s I was living in a villa on the ocean in Laguna Beach. Next door was a huge house that had been custom built by a man named Boyd Jefferies. I believe he was in trouble for some kind of stock deal and had lost the house.

As I heard the story, a couple from the midwest were visiting Laguna and had been at the beach where they saw and fell in love with the house. They went straight from the beach, in shorts and typical beach clothing, to a local major real estate office.

The agent, who happened to be working that day, apparently took one look at them and decided that they weren't valid clients.

The upshot was that they went to another office and bought the house. :@#$%&:

Lesson learned?

People who want to make money, don't pre-judge, they "qualify" possible clients. There are a lot of buyers at local exotic car dealerships in the Newport Beach area, that coming from the beach, might be wearing clothes and sneakers with holes in them.

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gl @ Dana Point, CA

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GeneL

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kap

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Lux Interior

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freeradical
Technically, this is called price discrimination.

That's not what is happening. Mac users are being shown more expensive options, not being charged more for the same room.

You wear a Rolex to the Toyota dealer, and the salesperson is going to steer you to the fully loaded Land Cruiser and away from the Camry.

I hope us Mac cheapskates are savvy enough to sort by price!

While working at UCLA I ran into a bum. Then a good quickly pointed out that bum was one of the world renowned cardiologist.

What would a millionaire expect to get at a Roll Royce dealer when one showed up in a t-shirt full of holes and raggedy shorts?

Case in point...

...back in the '80s I was living in a villa on the ocean in Laguna Beach. Next door was a huge house that had been custom built by a man named Boyd Jefferies. I believe he was in trouble for some kind of stock deal and had lost the house.

As I heard the story, a couple from the midwest were visiting Laguna and had been at the beach where they saw and fell in love with the house. They went straight from the beach, in shorts and typical beach clothing, to a local major real estate office.

The agent, who happened to be working that day, apparently took one look at them and decided that they weren't valid clients.

The upshot was that they went to another office and bought the house. :@#$%&:

Lesson learned?

People who want to make money, don't pre-judge, they "qualify" possible clients. There are a lot of buyers at local exotic car dealerships in the Newport Beach area, that coming from the beach, might be wearing clothes and sneakers with holes in them.

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West San Gabriel Valley, California ... for the time being

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GeneL

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kap

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Lux Interior

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freeradical
Technically, this is called price discrimination.

That's not what is happening. Mac users are being shown more expensive options, not being charged more for the same room.

You wear a Rolex to the Toyota dealer, and the salesperson is going to steer you to the fully loaded Land Cruiser and away from the Camry.

I hope us Mac cheapskates are savvy enough to sort by price!

What would a millionaire expect to get at a Roll Royce dealer when one showed up in a t-shirt full of holes and raggedy shorts?

Case in point...

...back in the '80s I was living in a villa on the ocean in Laguna Beach. Next door was a huge house that had been custom built by a man named Boyd Jefferies. I believe he was in trouble for some kind of stock deal and had lost the house.

As I heard the story, a couple from the midwest were visiting Laguna and had been at the beach where they saw and fell in love with the house. They went straight from the beach, in shorts and typical beach clothing, to a local major real estate office.

The agent, who happened to be working that day, apparently took one look at them and decided that they weren't valid clients.

The upshot was that they went to another office and bought the house. :@#$%&:

Lesson learned?

People who want to make money, don't pre-judge, they "qualify" possible clients. There are a lot of buyers at local exotic car dealerships in the Newport Beach area, that coming from the beach, might be wearing clothes and sneakers with holes in them.

While working at UCLA I ran into a bum. Then a good friend quickly pointed out that bum was one of the world renowned cardiologists.

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West San Gabriel Valley, California ... for the time being



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What would a millionaire expect to get at a Roll Royce dealer when one showed up in a t-shirt full of holes and raggedy shorts?

Anything he dam well wanted.

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You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

-An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

There is no safety for honest men
except by believing all possible evil
of evil men.

Pixels were born to be punished. -Frederick Van Johnson

Mister, that's a ten-gallon hat on a twenty-gallon head.

I *love* Sigs. It's Glocks I hate.