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| Re: Anyone Use Zoho Mail? Date: August 04, 2012 01:25PM |
just looked over the previous thread. i think gmail can do what you're looking for.
| Re: Anyone Use Zoho Mail? Date: August 04, 2012 09:21PM |
I also recently "re-discovered" Zoho when I too was looking into this whole email business. Apparently I had created an account long ago, but didn't remember.
Anyway, it looks good, but which account were you thinking of getting? The free business Lite? Or the free personal?
It looks like the business Lite has push (which may or may not be important to you). I"m not sure if the personal has push. Also, it's hard to tell if the Lite forces you to have to use your own domain or if it gives you an option to just have an @zoho.com address like the free personal does.
The Lite gives you 5GB which is WAY more than the free fastmail option, so if you're looking to keep things free, that's something to consider.
I think if you want to avoid Google then either Fastmail or Zoho are probably a couple of your best options.
Fastmail, by the way, does NOT have push.
Anyway, it looks good, but which account were you thinking of getting? The free business Lite? Or the free personal?
It looks like the business Lite has push (which may or may not be important to you). I"m not sure if the personal has push. Also, it's hard to tell if the Lite forces you to have to use your own domain or if it gives you an option to just have an @zoho.com address like the free personal does.
The Lite gives you 5GB which is WAY more than the free fastmail option, so if you're looking to keep things free, that's something to consider.
I think if you want to avoid Google then either Fastmail or Zoho are probably a couple of your best options.
Fastmail, by the way, does NOT have push.
| Re: Anyone Use Zoho Mail? Date: August 09, 2012 01:17AM |
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Before Apple started talking about 'push', everyone said, "get IMAP."
Can you explain the difference?
Just to clarify, I would think RIM with the Blackberry helped popularize push rather than Apple.
When it comes to receiving email, "push" email gets transferred to your device as the server receives it (assuming the device is powered on and has a data connection). "Pull" email arrives in your inbox after your mail client checks for new mail. If you tell the traditional email client to poll often enough (15 minutes might be the shortest automatic interval), you probably won't notice the difference.
Granted, push and pull methods (assuming you meant IMAP when it comes to pull) will also sync your read messages, deleted messages, and any similar email changes between devices. In theory, push will synchronize all powered on and data connected devices instantly when a change is made whereas pull will require you to hit "sync" manually. Manually as in the email client is set to automatically seek these changes on a set schedule or when you literally interact with the client.
Not to confuse you (let's be honest, I'm a novice myself when it comes to the nuts and bolts of email), but push email can work over the IMAP protocol as well. However, many services, such as Exchange (EAS) and Blackberry, use different protocols to "push" email. Unless iOS 6 has a new trick up its sleeve, the iOS email client doesn't support push via IMAP at this time. Very unfortunate really. Your Mac Mail.app client does support IMAP push so not all is lost.
Good link with a nutshell of the problem with IMAP and push support on iOS:
"If your email needs are limited to iCloud, Yahoo or Microsoft Exchange accounts, lucky you -- the rest of us have had to turn to third-party apps to be alerted to incoming missives from our peers. Admittedly, this is a first-world problem, given that we can simply tweak our device to automatically check for incoming email every 15 minutes, but that’s not really the point.
On Mac OS X, Apple’s Mail.app uses technology known as IMAP IDLE to poll for incoming email. It’s not perfect, but it generally works just fine. All we’re asking for is the same thing on our iOS devices -- particularly the iPhone and iPad, which are capable of an always-on data connection."
What the link doesn't mention is that MobileMe/iCloud push doesn't really update on iOS properly either. Exchange accounts do update so MobileMe/iCloud is just being weird (not surprisingly). Unlike the other push email notifications schemes supported by iOS, the unread messages badge doesn't update properly on iOS when it comes to iCloud. My understanding is the badge will update when new email comes in via iCloud, but not when the mail has been marked as read on another device. The badge simply won't update until new messages arrive via iCloud or you manually open the mail app on the iOS device. Yet, your Mac will update properly via push if you work the other direction, i.e. changes made on iOS and then you switch over to the Mac later.
Here's more info on that problem:
"Sync but not Pushed. I.E. You have to OPEN the Mail App on your iOS Device for things like this to Sync. iCloud (like MM) only Pushes New Mail to your iOS Device. So if you are working at your Mac and you have read all of your email the RED BADGE on your iOS devices still show that you have mail to read. But once you OPEN the Mail Client it Sync's Properly."
Edit: Click the "View Entire Thread:" link to read a fascinating discussion on the problem. The last post in the thread is particularly interesting.
Bottom line, do you need push? Probably not if you are using IMAP because even if the email client or service doesn't support push (whether it be IMAP IDLE, EAS, or whatever the heck iCloud is doing on iOS), your mail will still be able to stay in sync. At worst, you can generally set the email to check automatically every 15 minutes anyway. Or if you are really intent on getting your email immediately, you could keep manually clicking the fetch email button.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/09/2012 01:31AM by silvarios.
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