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Hestia Tobacco positions itself as the first truly independent organic cigarette company, and there are a number of strong elements to the pitch. It starts very clearly with David Sley introducing himself, the company and a three-pronged investment thesis. What he has created is an organic cigarette company, aimed at the young, socially conscious market that still engages in smoking.

Mr. Sley seems to know precisely who his customer is: hipsters who shop at “farmers markets and vinyl record stores.” I have a clear picture of who that consumer is — but the size of the market seems a little fuzzy. He claims there are 20 million smokers between the ages of 18 and 35, but how many of those smokers fit the hipster mold?

[boss.blogs.nytimes.com]

it gives you organic lung cancer.

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Be here now. Be someplace else later. Is that so complicated?
Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkes.

Western Massachusetts

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blooz
it gives you organic lung cancer.

LOL.

I'm sure there are people who are going to feel as if the lack of chemical additives and whatnot make the cigarettes a bit more benign. As if.

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"Stop thinking about art works as objects, and start thinking about them as triggers for experiences." ~ Brian Eno

If I were ever to even consider smoking tobacco, it would have to be something with no additives. I can't imagine all the crap that goes into the average cigarette helps reduce the risk of cancer.

They actually add a noxious substance to keep cigarettes from going out on their own. Wonder how many fire deaths that's responsible for?

It's time I start working on my new invention, Organic Chemo.

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That's a lot of pesto.

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Mike Johnson
It's time I start working on my new invention, Organic Chemo.

I think you might have something there

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Paul F.
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A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand. - Lucius Annaeus Seneca c. 5 BC - 65 AD
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Good is the enemy of Excellent. Talent is not necessary for Excellence.
Persistence is necessary for Excellence. And Persistence is a Decision.
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Eureka, CA

This correlates to when my daughter's new agey friends whine "It's Natural" and I happily look at them and state "Well, Arsenic is also found naturally. Do you eat THAT ? "

And then my daughter and I laugh at them.

nothing wrong with having an occasional cigarette or cigar

its actually quite nice since i am not a regular smoker
i would be interested in this.. for flavor sake.

p.s. they are forgetting about the old guy, penny pincher, republican demographic who buys exclusively off iTunes/Amazon MP3 or if i have to get a CD i get it from Amazon at the lowest price i can find it and buys in bulk from Sams or Costco instead of farmer's markets...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/30/2012 11:24AM by edgarbc1.

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cbelt3
This correlates to when my daughter's new agey friends whine "It's Natural" and I happily look at them and state "Well, Arsenic is also found naturally. Do you eat THAT ? "

And then my daughter and I laugh at them.

and spider venoms, etc

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It's like having a cruise missile with a nuclear warhead with engines that have noise-reduction technology in order to not disturb the neighborhoods it flies over on the way to the target.

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"So be proud to be a decent American instead of just a w'anker whipping up fear!" - Michael D. Higgins, President of Ireland

The target group is those that spend (extra) on American Spirit brand, pitched as additive/preservative-free, w/new age American Indian graphics on pkg, etc.

(I've told my smoking friend who is loyal to that brand, that their all pure tobacco content probably just equates to more tar & nicotine to kill him faster...)

edit: just read the article, and saw they did not miss the Am Spirit connection...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/30/2012 12:09PM by Psurfer.

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cbelt3
This correlates to when my daughter's new agey friends whine "It's Natural" and I happily look at them and state "Well, Arsenic is also found naturally. Do you eat THAT ? "

And then my daughter and I laugh at them.

While you're chugging down a glass of arsenic laced drinking water ?

Organic farming is easier on the environment.
Synthetic pesticide manufacturers can't be happy.
Whereas nicotine is still a carcinogen there are dozens and dozens of others in the swill cocktail of additives in regular smokes.

Supposedly easier to quit the habit if you switch to these for a while first too.

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A

Acetanisole
Acetic acid
Acetoin
Acetophenone
6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
2-Acetyl-3-Ethylpyrazine
2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
Acetylpyrazine
2-Acetylpyridine
3-Acetylpyridine
2-Acetylthiazole
Aconitic Acid
dl-Alanine
Alfalfa Extract
Allspice Extract, Oleoresin, and Oil
Allyl Hexanoate
Allyl Ionone
Almond Bitter Oil
Ambergris Tincture
Ammonia
Ammonium Bicarbonate
Ammonium Hydroxide
Diammonium phosphate
Ammonium sulfide
Amyl Alcohol
Amyl Butyrate
Amyl Formate
Amyl Octanoate
alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
Amyris Oil
trans-Anethole
Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
Anise
Anise Star, Extract and Oils
Anisyl Acetate
Anisyl Alcohol
Anisyl Formate
Anisyl Phenylacetate
Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
L-Arginine
Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
Ascorbic Acid
L-Asparagine Monohydrate
L-Aspartic Acid
[edit]B

Balsam Peru and Oil
Basil Oil
Bay leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
Beeswax White
Beet Juice Concentrate
Benzaldehyde
Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
Benzoic acid, Benzoin
Benzoin Resin
Benzophenone
Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Benzyl Butyrate
Benzyl Cinnamate
Benzyl Propionate
Benzyl salicylate
Bergamot Oil
Bisabolene
Black Currant Buds Absolute
Borneol
Bornyl Acetate
Buchu Leaf Oil
1,3-Butanediol
2,3-Butanedione
1-Butanol
2-Butanone
4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
Butyl acetate
Butyl butyrate
Butyl butyryl lactate
Butyl isovalerate
Butyl phenylacetate
Butyl ndecylenate
3-Butylidenephthalide
Butyric Acid
[edit]C

Cadinene
Caffeine
Calcium Carbonate
Camphene
Cananga Oil
Capsicum Oleoresin
Caramel color
Caraway Oil
Carbon Dioxide
Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
Carob Bean and Extract
beta-Carotene
Carrot Oil
Carvacrol
4-Carvomenthenol
L-Carvone
beta-Caryophyllene
beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
Cassia Bark Oil
Cassie Absolute and Oil
Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
Cedar Leaf Oil
Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
Cedrol
Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
Cellulose Fiber
Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
Chicory Extract
Chocolate
Cinnamaldehyde
Cinnamic Acid
Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
Cinnamyl Acetate
Cinnamyl Alcohol
Cinnamyl Cinnamate
Cinnamyl Isovalerate
Cinnamyl Propionate
Citral
Citric Acid
Citronella Oil
dl-Citronellol
Citronellyl Butyrate
Citronellyl Isobutyrate
Civet Absolute
Clary Oil
Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
Cocoa
Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
Coconut Oil
Coffee
Cognac White and Green Oil
Copaiba Oil
Coriander Extract and Oil
Corn Oil
Corn Silk
Costus Root Oil
Cubeb Oil
Cuminaldehyde
para-Cymene
L-Cysteine
[edit]D

Dandelion Root Solid Extract
Davana Oil
2-trans,4-trans-Decadienal
delta-Decalactone
gamma-Decalactone
Decanal
Decanoic acid
1-Decanol
2-Decenal
Dehydromenthofurolactone
Diethyl Malonate
Diethyl Sebacate
2,3-Diethylpyrazine
Dihydro Anethole
5,7-Dihydro-2-Methylthieno(3,4-D) Pyrimidine
Dill Seed Oil and Extract
meta-Dimethoxybenzene
para-Dimethoxybenzene
2,6-Dimethoxyphenol
Dimethyl Succinate
3,4-Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
3,5-Dimethyl-1,2-Cyclopentanedione
3,7-Dimethyl-1,3,6-Octatriene
4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-One
6,10-Dimethyl-5,9-Undecadien-2-One
3,7-Dimethyl-6-Octenoic Acid
2,4 Dimethylacetophenone
alpha,para-Dimethylbenzyl Alcohol
alpha,alpha-Dimethylphenethyl Acetate
alpha,alpha Dimethylphenethyl Butyrate
2,3-Dimethylpyrazine
2,5-Dimethylpyrazine
2,6-Dimethylpyrazine
Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone
delta-Dodecalactone
gamma-Dodecalactone
[edit]E

para-Ethoxybenzaldehyde
Ethyl 10-Undecenoate
Ethyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Ethyl acetate
Ethyl acetoacetate
Ethyl alcohol
Ethyl benzoate
Ethyl butyrate
Ethyl cinnamate
Ethyl decanoate
Ethyl fenchol
Ethyl furoate
Ethyl heptanoate
Ethyl hexanoate
Ethyl isovalerate
Ethyl lactate
Ethyl laurate
Ethyl levulinate
Ethyl maltol
Ethyl methylphenylglycidate
Ethyl myristate
Ethyl nonanoate
Ethyl octadecanoate
Ethyl octanoate
Ethyl oleate
Ethyl palmitate
Ethyl phenylacetate
Ethyl propionate
Ethyl salicylate
Ethyl trans-2-butenoate
Ethyl valerate
Ethyl vanillin
2-Ethyl (or Methyl)-(3,5 and 6)-Methoxypyrazine
2-Ethyl-1-Hexanol,3-Ethyl-2-Hydroxy-2-Cyclopenten-1-One
2-Ethyl-3,(5 or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine
5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone
2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine
3-Ethylpyridine
4-Ethylbenzaldehyde
4-Ethylguaiacol
4-Ethylphenol (para-Ethylphenol)
Eucalyptol
[edit]F

Farnesol
D-Fenchone
Fennel Sweet Oil
Fenugreek, Extract, Resin, and Absolute
fig Juice Concentrate
Food Starch Modified
Furfuryl Mercaptan
4-(2-Furyl)-3-Buten-2-One
[edit]G

Galbanum Oil
Genet Absolute
Gentian Root Extract
Geraniol
Geranium Rose Oil
Geranyl Acetate
Geranyl Butyrate
Geranyl Formate
Geranyl Isovalerate
Geranyl Phenylacetate
Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
L-Glutamic Acid
L-Glutamine
Glycerol
Glycyrrhizin Ammoniated
Grape Juice Concentrate
Guaiac Wood Oil
Guaiacol
Guar Gum
[edit]H

2,4-Heptadienal
gamma-Heptalactone
Heptanoic Acid
2-Heptanone
3-Hepten-2-One
2-Hepten-4-One
4-Heptenal
trans-2-Heptenal
Heptyl acetate
omega-6-Hexadecenlactone
gamma-Hexalactone
Hexanal
Hexanoic acid
2-Hexen-1-Ol
3-Hexen-1-Ol
cis-3-Hexen-1-Yl Acetate
2-Hexenal
3-Hexenoic Acid
trans-2-Hexenoic Acid
cis-3-Hexenyl Formate
Hexyl 2-Methylbutyrate
Hexyl Acetate
Hexyl Alcohol
Hexyl Phenylacetate
L-Histidine
Honey
Hops Oil
Hydrolyzed Milk Solids
Hydrolyzed Plant Proteins
5-Hydroxy-2,4-Decadienoic Acid delta- Lactone
4-Hydroxy-2,5-Dimethyl-3(2H)-Furanone
2-Hydroxy-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
4-Hydroxy -3-Pentenoic Acid Lactone
2-Hydroxy-4-Methylbenzaldehyde
4-Hydroxybutanoic Acid Lactone
Hydroxycitronellal
6-Hydroxydihydrotheaspirane
4-(para-Hydroxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
Hyssop Oil
[edit]I

Immortelle Absolute and Extract
alpha-Ionone
beta-Ionone
alpha-Irone
Isoamyl Acetate
Isoamyl Benzoate
Isoamyl Butyrate
Isoamyl Cinnamate
Isoamyl Formate, Isoamyl Hexanoate
Isoamyl Isovalerate
Isoamyl Octanoate
Isoamyl Phenylacetate
Isobornyl Acetate
Isobutyl Acetate
Isobutyl Alcohol
Isobutyl Cinnamate
Isobutyl Phenylacetate
Isobutyl Salicylate
2-Isobutyl-3-Methoxypyrazine
alpha-Isobutylphenethyl Alcohol
Isobutyraldehyde
Isobutyric Acid
d,l-Isoleucine
alpha-Isomethylionone
2-Isopropylphenol
Isovaleric Acid
[edit]J

Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil
[edit]K

Kola Nut Extract
[edit]L

Labdanum Absolute and Oleoresin
Lactic Acid
Lauric Acid
Lauric Aldehyde
Lavandin Oil
Lavender oil
Lemon Oil and Extract
Lemongrass Oil
L-Leucine
Levulinic acid
Liquorice root, fluid, extract and powder
Lime Oil
Linalool
Linalool Oxide
Linalyl acetate
Linden Flowers
Lovage Oil And Extract
L-Lysine
[edit]M

Mace Powder, Extract and Oil
Magnesium Carbonate
Malic Acid
Malt and Malt Extract
Maltodextrin
Maltol
Maltyl Isobutyrate
Mandarin Oil
Maple Syrup and Concentrate
Mate Leaf, Absolute and Oil
para-Mentha-8-Thiol-3-One
Menthol
Menthone
Menthyl Acetate
dl-Methionine
Methoprene
2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol
2-Methoxy-4-Vinylphenol
para-Methoxybenzaldehyde
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-1-Penten-3-One
4-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Butanone
1-(para-Methoxyphenyl)-2-Propanone
Methoxypyrazine
Methyl 2-Furoate
Methyl 2-Octynoate
Methyl 2-Pyrrolyl Ketone
Methyl Anisate
Methyl anthranilate
Methyl Benzoate
Methyl Cinnamate
Methyl Dihydrojasmonate
Methyl Ester of Rosin, Partially Hydrogenated
Methyl Isovalerate
Methyl Linoleate (48%)
Methyl Linolenate (52%) Mixture
Methyl Naphthyl Ketone
Methyl Nicotinate
Methyl phenylacetate
Methyl Salicylate
Methyl Sulfide
3-Methyl-1-Cyclopentadecanone
4-Methyl-1-Phenyl-2-Pentanone
5-Methyl-2-Phenyl-2-Hexenal
5-Methyl-2-Thiophenecarboxaldehyde
6-Methyl-3,-5-Heptadien-2-One
2-Methyl-3-(para-Isopropylphenyl) Propionaldehyde
5-Methyl-3-Hexen-2-One
1-Methyl-3-Methoxy-4-Isopropylbenzene
4-Methyl-3-Pentene-2-One
2-Methyl-4-Phenylbutyraldehyde
6-Methyl-5-Hepten-2-One
4-Methyl-5-Thiazoleethanol
4-Methyl-5-Vinylthiazole
Methyl-alpha-Ionone
Methyl-trans-2-Butenoic Acid
4-Methylacetophenone
para-Methylanisole
alpha-Methylbenzyl Acetate
alpha-Methylbenzyl Alcohol
2-Methylbutyraldehyde
3-Methylbutyraldehyde
2-Methylbutyric Acid
alpha-Methylcinnamaldehyde
Methylcyclopentenolone
2-Methylheptanoic Acid
2-Methylhexanoic Acid
3-Methylpentanoic Acid
4-Methylpentanoic Acid
2-Methylpyrazine
5-Methylquinoxaline
2-Methyltetrahydrofuran-3-One
(Methylthio)Methylpyrazine (Mixture Of Isomers)
3-Methylthiopropionaldehyde
Methyl 3-Methylthiopropionate
2-Methylvaleric Acid
Mimosa Absolute and Extract
Molasses Extract and Tincture
Mountain Maple Solid Extract
Mullein Flowers
Myristaldehyde
Myristic acid
Myrrh Oil
[edit]N

beta-Napthyl Ethyl Ether
Nerol
Neroli Bigarde Oil
Nerolidol
Nona-2-trans,6-cis-dienal
2,6-Nonadien-1-ol
gamma-Nonalactone
Nonanal
Nonanoic Acid
Nonanone
trans-2-Nonen-1-ol
2-Nonenal
Nonyl Acetate
Nutmeg Powder and Oil
[edit]O

Oak chips extract and oil
Oakmoss absolute
9,12-Octadecadienoic acid (48%) and 9,12,15-Octadecatrienoic acid (52%)
delta-Octalactone
gamma-Octalactone
Octanal
Octanoic acid
1-Octanol
2-Octanone
3-Octen-2-one
1-Octen-3-ol
1-Octen-3-yl acetate
2-Octenal
Octyl isobutyrate
Oleic acid
Olibanum oil
Opoponax oil and gum
Orange blossom water, absolute, and leaf absolute
Orange oil and extract
Origanum oil
Orris concrete oil and root extract
[edit]P

Palmarosa Oil
Palmitic acid
Parsley Seed Oil
Patchouli Oil
omega-Pentadecalactone
2,3-Pentanedione
2-Pentanone
4-Pentenoic Acid
2-Pentylpyridine
Pepper Oil, Black And White
Peppermint Oil
Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
alpha-Phellandrene
2-Phenenthyl Acetate
Phenethyl alcohol
Phenethyl Butyrate
Phenethyl Cinnamate
Phenethyl Isobutyrate
Phenethyl Isovalerate
Phenethyl Phenylacetate
Phenethyl Salicylate
1-Phenyl-1-Propanol
3-Phenyl-1-Propanol
2-Phenyl-2-Butenal
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-Ol
4-Phenyl-3-Buten-2-One
Phenylacetaldehyde
Phenylacetic Acid
L-Phenylalanine
3-Phenylpropionaldehyde
3-Phenylpropionic Acid
3-Phenylpropyl Acetate
3-Phenylpropyl Cinnamate
2-(3-Phenylpropyl)Tetrahydrofuran
Phosphoric Acid
Pimenta Leaf Oil
Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
Pineapple Juice Concentrate
alpha-Pinene, beta-Pinene
D-Piperitone
Piperonal
Pipsissewa Leaf Extract
Plum Juice
Potassium Sorbate
L-Proline
Propenylguaethol
Propionic Acid
Propyl Acetate
Propyl para-Hydroxybenzoate
Propylene Glycol
3-Propylidenephthalide
Prune Juice and Concentrate
Pyridine
Pyroligneous Acid And Extract
Pyrrole
Pyruvic Acid
[edit]R

Raisin Juice Concentrate
Rhodinol
Rose Absolute and Oil
Rosemary Oil
Rum
Rum Ether
Rye Extract
[edit]S

Sage, Sage oil, and Sage oleoresin
Salicylaldehyde
Sandalwood oil, yellow
Sclareolide
Skatole
Smoke flavor
Snakeroot oil
Sodium acetate
Sodium benzoate
Sodium bicarbonate
Sodium carbonate
Sodium chloride
Sodium citrate
Sodium hydroxide
Solanone
Spearmint oil
Styrax extract, gum and oil
Sucrose octaacetate
Sugar alcohols
Sugars
[edit]T

Tagetes Oil
Tannic Acid
Tartaric Acid
Tea Leaf and Absolute
alpha-Terpineol
Terpinolene
Terpinyl Acetate
5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline
1,5,5,9-Tetramethyl-13-Oxatricyclo(8.3.0.0(4,9))Tridecane
2,3,4,5, and 3,4,5,6-Tetramethylethyl-Cyclohexanone
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine
Thiamine Hydrochloride
Thiazole
L-Threonine
Thyme Oil, White and Red
Thymol
Tobacco Extracts
Tocopherols (mixed)
Tolu balsam Gum and Extract
Tolualdehydes
para-Tolyl 3-Methylbutyrate
para-Tolyl Acetaldehyde
para-Tolyl Acetate
para-Tolyl Isobutyrate
para-Tolyl Phenylacetate
Triacetin
2-Tridecanone
2-Tridecenal
Triethyl Citrate
3,5,5-Trimethyl-1-Hexanol
para,alpha,alpha-Trimethylbenzyl Alcohol
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-1-Enyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohex-2-Ene-1,4-Dione
2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl Methan
4-(2,6,6-Trimethylcyclohexa-1,3-Dienyl)But-2-En-4-One
2,2,6-Trimethylcyclohexanone
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine
L-Tyrosine
[edit]U

delta-Undecalactone
gamma-Undecalactone
Undecanal
2-Undecanone
10-Undecenal
Urea
[edit]V

Valencene
Valeraldehyde
Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
Valeric acid
gamma-Valerolactone
Valine
Vanilla Extract And Oleoresin
Vanillin
Veratraldehyde
Vetiver Oil
Vinegar
Violet Leaf Absolute
[edit]W

Walnut Hull Extract
Water
Wheat Extract And Flour
Wild Cherry Bark Extract
Wine and Wine Cherry
[edit]X

Xanthan Gum
3,4-Xylenol
[edit]Y

Yeast

Z- what is the big list for?

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billb
Supposedly easier to quit the habit if you switch to these for a while first too.

I bet that's true.

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"Stop thinking about art works as objects, and start thinking about them as triggers for experiences." ~ Brian Eno

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mikebw
Z- what is the big list for?

that's the list of US approved additives for cigarettes

I thought those Amer Spirit cigs were very, very tasty back in my smoking days....

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edgarbc1
nothing wrong with having an occasional cigarette or cigar

Are you serious?

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rz

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edgarbc1
nothing wrong with having an occasional cigarette or cigar

Are you serious?

...enjoy every sandwich!

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mattkime

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cbelt3
This correlates to when my daughter's new agey friends whine "It's Natural" and I happily look at them and state "Well, Arsenic is also found naturally. Do you eat THAT ? "

And then my daughter and I laugh at them.

and spider venoms, etc

And uranium.

So, I take it you guys dislike tobacco or something? I can't tell.

You gotta have those organic carcinogens,
not chemical or fake carcinogens


Dave

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The secret to a long life is...

Don't do anything to shorten it.