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Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: DP
Date: February 16, 2014 06:22PM
This just screams injury and maybe worse. I normally don't follow this stuff so it's the first time I'm seeing this. Already a couple have collided and gone down hard.
Any forumites do this?
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: February 16, 2014 06:40PM
yeah, but I like it a lot better than freestyle - each person essentially doing the same tricks over and over again.
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 16, 2014 07:09PM
since when did the olympics decide to let anything in that happened on snow?



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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: max
Date: February 16, 2014 07:13PM
It is almost an equivalent to Super G on the ski side.

It is not insane, it just requires a specific, well honed, skill set....
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: Pops
Date: February 16, 2014 07:23PM
I realized why I only snapped cross country skis on in my youth after I saw Franz Klammer win the Olympic downhill in 1976.
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: February 16, 2014 07:30PM
No more insane than downhill skiing IMHO.
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: DP
Date: February 16, 2014 08:08PM
I should clarify-I mean when they go off in a group like that. With all they have to concentrate on individually, it seems the proximity just begs for disaster.
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: hal
Date: February 16, 2014 08:28PM
People - Snowboard Cross is a race down the mountain with a bunch of crazy snowboarders...

It's NOT like downhill skiing. It's more like a cross of downhill and short track skating.

Yes, it's insane...
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: The UnDoug
Date: February 16, 2014 09:11PM
The Hernandez woman had a *really* horrible crash! I can't imagine how crazy and dangerous it will be when there are six boarders on the course at the same time.



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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: BernDog
Date: February 16, 2014 09:39PM
I really like it. Much more entertaining than watching someone race a clock. Can you imagine watching a car race run one car at a time?
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: billb
Date: February 16, 2014 09:43PM
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I really like it. Much more entertaining than watching someone race a clock. Can you imagine watching a car race run one car at a time?

Craig Breedlove has had some interesting runs at Bonneville salt flats



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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: DavidS
Date: February 16, 2014 11:06PM
It's been an event in the Winter X Games for quite a while. The Olympics is trying to be more "hip" with these new events. I look forward to Snowmobile Freestyle in 2018.

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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: February 16, 2014 11:17PM
Yes. It has Snowboarders in, it so it's insane by content.

The entire Snowboard thing is just sloppy. Everything about it..there is almost zero grace. Sloppy clothes, clunky look and the tricks just aren't up to snuff. The Cross feels the same way to me..like the wheels are coming off. I want SOME tidbit of beauty or some kind of grace. GRACE!!

Look at most sports in a broad view. Basketball, baseball, football, ski jumping, Alpine skiing, track, swimming, ..the list goes on..There is a very CERTAIN element of grace and beauty in these sports..something that makes you say WOW, that was incredible. Almost none of this comes across in Snowboarding for me..it's sloppy.

Maybe..maybe, if they made these folks wear a form fitting suit..something that demanded super tight discipline in terms of FORM..it would bring this to another level. It doesn't belong in the Olympics..the post up there of the Snowmobile flip is APROPO..it has the same clunky thing going on.
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: billb
Date: February 17, 2014 09:25AM
Course needs to be longer and more physical contact
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 17, 2014 10:22AM
yes, CROSS my heart.....and hope to die.......



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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: Schpark
Date: February 17, 2014 10:42AM
It is like a "Chinese Downhill" on snowboards.



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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: February 17, 2014 11:24AM
I've been snowboarding for over 20 years, and that course makes me cringe. The snow is fake, and has been treated with chemicals. The boarders were saying the snow was soft. That mess can't be a whole lot like the real thing.

If the course was in good shape, was able to be well maintained... six people flying down the hill wouldn't be so insane.

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The entire Snowboard thing is just sloppy. Everything about it..there is almost zero grace. Sloppy clothes, clunky look and the tricks just aren't up to snuff. The Cross feels the same way to me..like the wheels are coming off. I want SOME tidbit of beauty or some kind of grace. GRACE!!

There is tons of grace in snowboarding. The tricks aren't up to snuff? Have you ever given even a few of them a try? Snowboarders pushed the sport pretty far, and skiers started copying them. You also have to realize the conditions of the courses there are terrible. A lot of it is just the riders trying to stay alive.

In boarder cross, the way the riders work their legs to absorb the bumps and just get over the first jump is full of grace. In the halfpipe, there's no way to get those sorts of rotations or height without grace. Without it, they can't get the speed they need.




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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: February 17, 2014 01:08PM
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M A V I C
I've been snowboarding for over 20 years, and that course makes me cringe. The snow is fake, and has been treated with chemicals. The boarders were saying the snow was soft. That mess can't be a whole lot like the real thing.

If the course was in good shape, was able to be well maintained... six people flying down the hill wouldn't be so insane.

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Kraniac
The entire Snowboard thing is just sloppy. Everything about it..there is almost zero grace. Sloppy clothes, clunky look and the tricks just aren't up to snuff. The Cross feels the same way to me..like the wheels are coming off. I want SOME tidbit of beauty or some kind of grace. GRACE!!

There is tons of grace in snowboarding. The tricks aren't up to snuff? Have you ever given even a few of them a try? Snowboarders pushed the sport pretty far, and skiers started copying them. You also have to realize the conditions of the courses there are terrible. A lot of it is just the riders trying to stay alive.

In boarder cross, the way the riders work their legs to absorb the bumps and just get over the first jump is full of grace. In the halfpipe, there's no way to get those sorts of rotations or height without grace. Without it, they can't get the speed they need.

Sorry, you are wrong and biased because you are of the same lot....

By the way.."grace" does not transfer through the baggy sloppy jumping clothes they wear in the Giant Latrine event..I'll repeat..they look like crumpled up paper towels being thrown across a room.

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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: February 17, 2014 01:22PM
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Kraniac
Sorry, you are wrong and biased because you are of the same lot....

By the way.."grace" does not transfer through the baggy sloppy jumping clothes they wear in the Giant Latrine event..I'll repeat..they look like crumpled up paper towels being thrown across a room.

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Have you ever snowboarded? Do you know anything about the physics of the matter? It's interesting that you assume since I snowboard, I wear baggy clothes and am "of the same lot"... that just makes you prejudice.




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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: February 17, 2014 02:17PM
Yes, I have Snowboarded. My kids are avid Snowboarders. After a long period of physical constraint and being burned with toasted pop tarts, they agree with me on this and several other points...Snowboarding should not be in the Olympics.

I'm firm believer in the idea of the Olympics sports having a historical antecedent of some sort. hunting, transportation, war, package delivery in record time. Ice Dancing is a good example of a sport that qualifies nicely. Snowboarding isn't.
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: February 17, 2014 02:25PM
Were you ever able to do any of the tricks that the olympians have done? I'm betting you didn't have the level of grace required to accomplish those types of movements. The woman who won gold in the women's bordercross showed a ton of grace in her ability to fly over the smaller series of jumps without losing speed or crashing.

Grace is defined as "simple elegance or refinement of movement." You're going to tell me it takes no refinement of movement to take a board down a half pipe, spin in the air, and continue momentum into the next trick?




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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: February 17, 2014 03:02PM
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M A V I C
Were you ever able to do any of the tricks that the olympians have done? I'm betting you didn't have the level of grace required to accomplish those types of movements. The woman who won gold in the women's bordercross showed a ton of grace in her ability to fly over the smaller series of jumps without losing speed or crashing.

Grace is defined as "simple elegance or refinement of movement." You're going to tell me it takes no refinement of movement to take a board down a half pipe, spin in the air, and continue momentum into the next trick?


Whether I can do those tricks is not the point..is it? Not many can do any of the things people do in Olympics..that's why we love to watch them do these things.

My lack of grace is not the point, either. I could be a total slob but have an incredible eye for "grace". And I do.

I can't see any grace in any of the various forms that these Snowboard athletes display during the stunt-only events (halfpipe)...because they're all swimming in their HUGE baggy clothes.

If the figure skaters wore stuff like this we wouldn't have a clue as to how they looked during their stunts..

MY suggestion was that they should at least get them into a suit that complements what it is that they are doing...to showcase it more effectively.

from MAvic:

--""You're going to tell me it takes no refinement of movement to take a board down a half pipe, spin in the air, and continue momentum into the next trick?""--

Im going tell you that it does require refinement..just more of it and with better presentation

Im also going to tell you to lighten up because you are taking this way to seriously...

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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: BernDog
Date: February 17, 2014 09:35PM
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Kraniac
I'm firm believer in the idea of the Olympics sports having a historical antecedent of some sort. hunting, transportation, war, package delivery in record time. Ice Dancing is a good example of a sport that qualifies nicely. Snowboarding isn't.

Weren't you just ranting a few days ago that you don't like the judged events?
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Re: Does anyone else think the Snowboard Cross is insane?
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: February 18, 2014 10:00AM
I hate judged events and I don't like figure skating very either. Once in a while someone cmomes along in figure skating, someone who doesn't put on stupid costumes and skates very athetically and I can watch..otherwise it's basically me lunging for the remote with my hand over my mouth n puke squirting through my fingers.

Since when does figure skating have a meaningful historical antecedent??

It was JOKE, comrade!!!! Joke!!



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