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I want to build a teepee
Posted by: pinion
Date: October 30, 2006 01:35PM
I know there are a lot of different directions on the internet on how to do this but I am curious whether or not any of you have any experience in this. The point is we want to put it in my friends back yard over his fire pit that has a radius of about 2 to 2.5 feet making the diameter about 5 feet (probably closer to 4). We'd like to be able to get 10 chairs in there with us as well as have the fire going. Does anyone out there have any suggestions?



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: samintx
Date: October 30, 2006 01:43PM
First I think you have to kill deer or Buffalo don't you? Seriously, sounds like fun.
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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: October 30, 2006 01:50PM
Just remember the angle of the walls/roof will cut down on your useable space inside, necessitating a larger diameter.

That, and don't make the walls out of something flamable if you're gonna have a fire-pit in there. Or at least, get some fire-retardant spray at a home center to slow down the teepee going up in flames while you conduct an orderly evacuation through the federally mandated well lit emergency exits...



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: mattkime
Date: October 30, 2006 01:57PM
first you need an @#$%&



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: October 30, 2006 01:57PM
This isn't going to be easy. Trying to find leather in sections that big is going to be tough. Most places now that setup teepees setup fake ones. One pretty much has to be on a reservation to even find a real one.




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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: pinion
Date: October 30, 2006 02:02PM
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samintx
First I think you have to kill deer or Buffalo don't you? Seriously, sounds like fun.

They're alreayd dead, we just need to skin 'em.

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mattkime
first you need an @#$%&
I've got Cherokee in me so that parts taken care of too.

MAVIC- I've heard of people using tent canvas too. Maybe some sort of fire retardent canvas would be easier and more cost effective than using leather. I imagine if we sued leather we'd have to get it in squares and sew it up.



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: October 30, 2006 02:09PM
I would be inclined to use the hides raw (rawhide) rather than going through the trouble to TAN the hides... if you're gonna go the authentic route.

The rawhide will dry very hard and make a better "roof"...
Not sure what to treat it with for rot resistance though.

I think the basic construction is pretty darn simple... 3-5 long poles, bind at the top..
Wrap with hides... I'd stitch the seams with leather lacing... Or try glue :-)

Interesting project, to be sure...



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: October 30, 2006 02:14PM
I thought you meant a house made of TP (toilet paper). . .



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: October 30, 2006 02:17PM
He's going to need more like a dozen poles, Paul. For such a large diameter, a triangle is going to lose a lot of space, same with a pentagon. The tricky part will be how the top is assembled to allow the smoke to flow out. Binding right there could be damaged due to high heat.




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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: incognegro
Date: October 30, 2006 02:20PM
[www.inquiry.net]

i like the spelling TIPI
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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: October 30, 2006 02:27PM
MAVIC;

The more I think about the size required...I think you're right...
It's gonna be pretty big.



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: mattkime
Date: October 30, 2006 02:32PM
>>I've got Cherokee in me so that parts taken care of too.

@#$%& askum mac forum buildum teepee?

HA!



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: MarkD
Date: October 30, 2006 02:50PM
How about

[www.manataka.org]

for instructions?

Although many might prefer the following or remember a similar motel from years gone by--these are close to reopening.

[www.roadsideamerica.com]
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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: spearmint
Date: October 30, 2006 02:51PM
Good luck! Sounds like fun.
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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: Racer X
Date: October 30, 2006 04:38PM
I was at a firepit party saturday afternoon while on a break from setting up the halloween party.

His 2.5' diameter fire kettle puts out enough heat, that in an open backyard, we were sitting roughly 5 feet away. And it was 45F outside when the sun went down. So he would have needed a circle at roughly 3' high about 12 feet in diameter. That would be about 15' at the ground.
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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: Mike Johnson
Date: October 30, 2006 05:08PM
A 12' high cone with a 12' diameter would need about 450 sq feet . A typical cowhide is about 50 sq feet but it's irregular, so you might need 12 or 15 of them.

Check out [www.hidehouse.com]
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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: Pat
Date: October 30, 2006 05:50PM
Anyone give Daryl Hannah a call?

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These have reopened
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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: Effin Haole
Date: October 30, 2006 07:22PM
Yeah, I'm with the "why is an American Indian asking a mac forum how to build a teepee" faction.

I have been to a number of reservations and to be honest, in all of the history books/museums and such, and growing up in KS there are a lot of those items/places, I have never seen any depiction, except in Hollywood movies, of fires being inside of a teepee. They are always outside.



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: Racer X
Date: October 30, 2006 07:51PM
you probably don't go camping in january in the Black Hills. Our sleeping bags are far more effecient than buffalo robes. fires were used for heat, and sometimes cooking (usually in the winter) inside teepees and their variants among the native americans,
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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: pinion
Date: October 30, 2006 07:55PM
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Effin Haole
Yeah, I'm with the "why is an American Indian asking a mac forum how to build a teepee" faction.

I'm not really an American Indian. I'm only like 1/32 or something like that.


Thanks everybody for your ideas and tips. I got some good ideas now and maybe me and my friend can move foward. If we go on with it I'll definently take pictures of the process for all who are interested.

-James



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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: BigGuynRusty
Date: October 30, 2006 08:03PM
You know that a Teepee is actually two layers?
The outer shell actually stops two feet from the ground and allows air to flow between the inner, and outer shells, pulling the smoke out.

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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: Racer X
Date: October 30, 2006 08:38PM
Gotta be where the rain fly concept for a tent came from.
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Re: I want to build a teepee
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: October 30, 2006 09:09PM
my apologies to any real native americans.... but this reminded me of the Ten Little Indians cartoon
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