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Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 22, 2015 12:46PM
previous post: Crap, my Dell 2405FP just quit.
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Was running my 27" iMac with a Dell 2405, but wanted a bit more, so added a small 3rd screen via USB (my iMac doesnt support dual externals) and it worked OK. A little laggy, but fine for email use. But then the 2405 died...

So added a Dell U3415W, which I had been looking at for some time. 3440 X 1440 screen, that Im paring with a 27" iMac 2560 X 1440 screen for 6000 X 1440 glorious pixels. And I could dump the 3rd screen.

However. Not sure that its going to work the way I thought it would. At least not for how I like to work. Ive had dual monitors for longer than I can remember. At least 15 years. My first big setup was a 24" Sony FW900 CRT @ 1920 x 1200 + a 17" CRT. Main monitor for all work, and second right monitor for email/web/finder.

But with this new setup, the extra width seems to be just wasted. I dont often work anything super wide. Lots of single page and 2 page magazine spreads -- and even 2 pages at full screen still leaves hundreds of unused pixels. I guess I didnt think about the proportions through enough? Its just not working "split" the screen in 2, as soon I want more width, then it covers whatever is behind it. And then its just a constant click thru windows or the app launcher.

Overall, monitor is a beauty. Sliver of a bezel. Stand swivels, plus spring loaded height and tilt. Spectacular white color, no bleeds that I can see. Minimal muss and fuss design wise. No side mounted USB ports which I kinda miss. One kinda random USB port in the back, but akward to reach like iMac USB ports.

Might have to go with a second 27" 2560 X 1440 display instead... going to give a few weeks to test.

13 years ago -- Sony FW900 and the mini leader:


Old setup with 3 monitors (2405 was on right, used a cracked screen 2001 temporarily. Whites on those old Dells are still prefect 8 years later.


Box was huge:


New setup. With single 10 x 12 page in middle of screen. Lots of extra pixels. not doing anything...




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2015 01:11PM by jdc.
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Re: Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: December 22, 2015 01:15PM
Wow, tall post, I couldn't fit the whole thing on screen.



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Re: Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: December 22, 2015 01:25PM
I have a 34" 3440 pixel monitor (an LG) and it's best used as a single monitor option for someone wanting a single monitor option instead of a dual setup. If you are going to get good use from it, it will need to be your primary monitor with the iMac's internal screen being the secondary monitor. The 34" is just way too big to use as a secondary.

Another 27" 2560x1440 might work better for you but I'll bet that you will end up in the same position, having one primary monitor and one secondary, and feeling that the secondary is not getting the use you'd like it to.

As for how you are using it right now, you don't use a 3440 monitor full screen, it doesn't work well that way. You'll be using it as a side by side window monitor that doesn't have an artificial break in the middle where another pair of monitors would have their bezels. You're free to make the 2 windows as wide or even overlapping as you want. Audacity is a great use for one of these 34" behemoths.

You might want to consider how your 3-screen setup worked and how you can transition the primary and one of the secondaries to a single primary (the 34") and the other secondary to the iMac's screen.
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Re: Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: hal
Date: December 22, 2015 01:37PM
In my experience, one monitor has never replaced two no matter how big and wide it is. Also, apple specs say these computers can only run 2560x1600 max... they don't have any problem running the 3440 wide monitor?
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Re: Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: December 22, 2015 03:03PM
I think 10.11 add some new window management stuff, but don't know how well it works. I use Window Tidy. It's very handy helping manage windows on a big screen.




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Re: Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: December 22, 2015 03:11PM
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hal
In my experience, one monitor has never replaced two no matter how big and wide it is. Also, apple specs say these computers can only run 2560x1600 max... they don't have any problem running the 3440 wide monitor?

Think of this as two 1720x1440 monitors with no annoying plastic bezels in the middle, it fully replaces two monitors very well.

Most Macs made since 2011 can run this monitor at 3440x1440 @30Hz through DisplayPort. If you have the LG with the Thunderbolt connection, you can run 3440x1440 @50Hz (I do this with my 2012 Mini). Most Macs debuting 2013and later can run this monitor at 3440x1440 @60Hz through DisplayPort (and TBolt for the LG).

As a random FYI, Broadwell NUCs running OS 10.11.x run the LG (and presumably the Dell) at 3440x1440 @60Hz through DisplayPort and at 50Hz through HDMI.
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Re: Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: December 22, 2015 03:21PM
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Lew Zealand
Think of this as two 1720x1440 monitors with no annoying plastic bezels in the middle, it fully replaces two monitors very well.

As an example: I use a 1920x1080 and 1600x1200 monitors at work. That's 3520x1140 on average. This one monitor has me give up 80 pixels in width and gives back 300 pixels in height which is a great tradeoff.

What it doesn't replace is a pair of 27" 2560x1440 or 30" 2560x1600 monitors.



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Re: Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: thermarest
Date: December 22, 2015 06:15PM
Thanks for the post, and especially the picture of the 3440 X 1440 next to the 2560x1440. I've been eyeing an LG 3440 X 1440 for a long time. Its one of the few (only?) displays with a built in thunderbolt port. I'm just not sure that width will suit me. I would use it as a primary, with the 1680x1060 MBP as secondary, so its a different use case. Maybe with that large a display I wouldn't need to use the MBP displsy at all when I"m plugged in at the desk. Currently have 1920x1080 and its not quite enough
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Re: Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 22, 2015 06:43PM
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hal
In my experience, one monitor has never replaced two no matter how big and wide it is. Also, apple specs say these computers can only run 2560x1600 max... they don't have any problem running the 3440 wide monitor?

Yeah, Im thinking you are right on the money. Love the width, just not using it.

Im on a 2010 iMac with 2.93 i7 and 1 GB Radeon 5750 running Mavericks. Using a mini display port to full display port cable. SysPrefs says its running at 60 Hertz NTSC, but theres also a 50 Hertz PAL option.

The 3415 was always intended to be my primary with the iMac secondary -- just like my last photo.

You would *think* that it replaces 2 screens, but it just doesnt. The problem is you cant "separate" the screen into 2 distinct screens. It just doesnt work like 2 individual screens.

Maybe I will look at window tidy.

Otherwise, I think its going back and Im going to go with a 27" or 30" and keep running the 3rd screen. Then save my $$ for a retina iMac later in 2016. At least it will run a 3rd screen better.

thanks all.



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Re: Follow Up: New Dell U3415W monitor and impressions.
Posted by: hal
Date: December 22, 2015 07:10PM
I've been seriously thinking about this monitor - if you don't want it, contact me - I might be talked into it assuming that you got it for WAY less than retail
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