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running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: goodmanx
Date: December 24, 2015 04:52PM
i'm thinking about getting an ssd to run externally in a 2008 imac (8,1); i don't want to go through the expense or hassle of installing the drive internally.

the imac has usb 2 and fire wire 400 and 800 ports. is ssd through usb 2 worth it or would the machine feel about the same or faster with a regular hard drive running through a firewire 800 port?

joie noel, y'all!
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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: December 24, 2015 04:56PM
Why not put the SSD in a case with FW 800 ports?
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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: Black
Date: December 24, 2015 05:19PM
In my own personal experience, the machine will feel smooth and fast via FW 800 booting. USB2 booting will give a better experience than internal HDD booting, but there will be some noticeable stickiness relative to FW800. Unfortunately there's a bit of luck involved in trying to track down a FW800 enclosure for much under $60 these days.




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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: Black
Date: December 24, 2015 05:20PM
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ka jowct
Why not put the SSD in a case with FW 800 ports?
Probably better for the mac and the drive than trying to put the SSD through the Firewire port.




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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: sekker
Date: December 24, 2015 05:47PM
SSD in a FireWire case works great for my i3 iMac.
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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: December 24, 2015 06:20PM
is ssd through usb 2 worth it

Absolutely.

And yes, an SSD and FW800 will be a better experience. I've used both USB2 and FW800 cases with my minis and I can see a difference, though it's not huge.

Me being me, I'd try hard to get a FW800 box (I already have two), but if I couldn't or if it were pricy, USB 2 works better than good enough. Any SSD and port combination will be faster than any HDD and port combination.

In the end, if you can get a FW800 enclosure reasonably, great. If not, don't let that stop you from using USB2.




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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: December 24, 2015 06:37PM
OWC sells a nice clear case with FW800 and USB 3. There is an optional power supply, which I would get if I were going to run my system from the external.

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Sometimes these crop up in OWC's garage sales or on eBay for less than $60.



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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: Black
Date: December 24, 2015 06:44PM
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RAMd®d
is ssd through usb 2 worth it

Absolutely.

And yes, an SSD and FW800 will be a better experience. I've used both USB2 and FW800 cases with my minis and I can see a difference, though it's not huge.

Me being me, I'd try hard to get a FW800 box (I already have two), but if I couldn't or if it were pricy, USB 2 works better than good enough. Any SSD and port combination will be faster than any HDD and port combination.

In the end, if you can get a FW800 enclosure reasonably, great. If not, don't let that stop you from using USB2.
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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 24, 2015 07:27PM
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RAMd®d
is ssd through usb 2 worth it
In the end, if you can get a FW800 enclosure reasonably, great. If not, don't let that stop you from using USB2.
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You have waited too long. I ran a 2007 iMac from USB 2 and FW800, both were way better than the internal.

A USB 2 (USB 3 works fine too) case should be about $10.



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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: sekker
Date: December 24, 2015 09:36PM
Used FW800 can be had for under $20 too.
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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: Black
Date: December 24, 2015 09:40PM
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sekker
Used FW800 can be had for under $20 too.
In for two. Link?




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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: TheToddler
Date: December 25, 2015 12:12AM
SSD via FW800 on a 2009 iMac ... Excellent performance.
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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: modelamac
Date: December 25, 2015 07:21AM
goodmanx,

I have a 2007 iMac 7,1 (6GB RAM) that I tore apart and installed a 500 GB SSD in. The installation is easy and the results are really great. I used OWC's video to do it. I must encourage you to do it rather than use an external drive. I am running both 10.10.5 and 10.11.2 on it, and the SSD has given the iMac a new lease on life. It does a great job on all but the heaviest tasks.

If you prefer not to do that, I have an OWC Mercury Elite Pro external case (w/ power supply) that has the following ports: 1 FW400, 2 FW800, 1 eSata, and a mini USB2 port. Yours for the asking, as I don't need it. PM me with instructions if you want it.

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goodmanx
i'm thinking about getting an ssd to run externally in a 2008 imac (8,1); i don't want to go through the expense or hassle of installing the drive internally.

the imac has usb 2 and fire wire 400 and 800 ports. is ssd through usb 2 worth it or would the machine feel about the same or faster with a regular hard drive running through a firewire 800 port?

joie noel, y'all!



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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: sekker
Date: December 25, 2015 07:56AM
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Black
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sekker
Used FW800 can be had for under $20 too.
In for two. Link?

Apologies - the older link from Amazon has expired. FW800 is a very niche product line these days. I did see one external 3.5" case listed for $25 on eBay.

If you need two, I'd just do regular searches until you find them available b
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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: Black
Date: December 25, 2015 12:28PM
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sekker
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Black
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sekker
Used FW800 can be had for under $20 too.
In for two. Link?

Apologies - the older link from Amazon has expired. FW800 is a very niche product line these days. I did see one external 3.5" case listed for $25 on eBay.

If you need two, I'd just do regular searches until you find them available b

Have searched plenty and as I said above, it's near impossible to find a case like the OP is looking for for under $60.




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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: December 25, 2015 01:19PM
I'm running a 2006 iMac on an external OWC FW800 case with an OWC SSD. Better overall experience than the internal drive (when it was working).
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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 25, 2015 06:08PM
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modelamac
goodmanx,

I have a 2007 iMac 7,1 (6GB RAM) that I tore apart and installed a 500 GB SSD in. The installation is easy and the results are really great. I used OWC's video to do it. I must encourage you to do it rather than use an external drive. I am running both 10.10.5 and 10.11.2 on it, and the SSD has given the iMac a new lease on life. It does a great job on all but the heaviest tasks.

If you prefer not to do that, I have an OWC Mercury Elite Pro external case (w/ power supply) that has the following ports: 1 FW400, 2 FW800, 1 eSata, and a mini USB2 port. Yours for the asking, as I don't need it. PM me with instructions if you want it.

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goodmanx
i'm thinking about getting an ssd to run externally in a 2008 imac (8,1); i don't want to go through the expense or hassle of installing the drive internally.

the imac has usb 2 and fire wire 400 and 800 ports. is ssd through usb 2 worth it or would the machine feel about the same or faster with a regular hard drive running through a firewire 800 port?

joie noel, y'all!

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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: sekker
Date: December 25, 2015 10:18PM
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Black
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sekker
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Black
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sekker
Used FW800 can be had for under $20 too.
In for two. Link?

Apologies - the older link from Amazon has expired. FW800 is a very niche product line these days. I did see one external 3.5" case listed for $25 on eBay.

If you need two, I'd just do regular searches until you find them available b

Have searched plenty and as I said above, it's near impossible to find a case like the OP is looking for for under $60.

PM sent with a couple options for Black.

OP - the MRF option listed here is better than anything I can find on the inter webs.
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Re: running an external ssd on an older imac
Posted by: clyde
Date: January 07, 2016 11:49AM
When booting an iMac from an SSD drive in an external HD, what role does the internal HD play—if any?
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