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PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: SteveO
Date: January 05, 2017 01:24PM
I've been trying to replace our Bialetta teflon pot/pan set for the past few years. Now at about 10 years old, they had a beautiful red finish on the outside but my wife is Calamity Jane so they're pretty beat up now. Teflon is also compromised as you might have guessed.

Didn't want to mess with ceramic or the hazards of teflon again, so have been on the hunt for affordable, attractive, high-quality stainless steel pan/s. Ran across a 3-qt saucepan by Lagostina (Italian company started 1901) at TJ Maxx a few weeks ago. Amazing price of 20 bucks!

I've only found the 3-qt there, they seemed to be out of the others, but you can buy an entire set on Amazon or eBay for $329 or so; copper-clad exterior is about $10-20 more.

This Lagostino Martellata model is hammered so it has a distinctive look, and it has stay-cool handles. It's a tri-ply and hefty, and 18/10. Interestingly, the outside lip is flared, not flat, so it's easier to pour from without spills. Heats fast and even on my gas stove. A few small cons: lids aren't clear. Not a dealbreaker for me, but maybe for others. Made in China which I don't love, but the quality is intact.

Some may find it interesting that this company created the first stainless cookware line (among other innovations in daily use today such as the pastaoila - the 2-in-1 pot to cook and drain pasta), and their cookware has been exhibited at MoMA. I think that's pretty cool. As of 2005 or so, they're owned by the same company that owns All Clad and some other big names.

I've been looking for a 1 or 2-qt version of this to use as a small saucepan (we don't really need the entire set), but thus far no luck at TJX. There's one on Amazon for $81, I did find one on eBay for >$100, as was the 3-qt size.

So the $20 TJX price for this 3-qt is apparently a friggin' steal.

TJX is a great place to score deals like this. I bought a 10" ss skillet there for about the same price a few years ago, also high quality 18/10 steel with stay-cool handle. The challenge is finding other sizes. They must just get odd lots or something. Hope this helps anyone who's in the market for a nice pan/s.

Bon Apetît!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/05/2017 01:26PM by SteveO.
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: January 05, 2017 01:45PM
....Valerian Steel.....???



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: January 05, 2017 02:05PM
SteveO, how does the pan work for cooking things that scorch easily, or clean up after something like frying eggs? The reviews says the copper looks bad if you don't keep it polished. Does it get the patina of say some vintage Revere Ware copper bottom pans?



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: Bixby
Date: January 05, 2017 02:43PM
Tramontina from Walmart is also pretty well regarded and reviewed. I have these, and along with my cast iron, need nothing else. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tramontina-8-Piece-18-10-Stainless-Steel-Tri-Ply-Clad-Cookware-Set/19581112
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: SteveO
Date: January 05, 2017 03:14PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
SteveO, how does the pan work for cooking things that scorch easily, or clean up after something like frying eggs? The reviews says the copper looks bad if you don't keep it polished. Does it get the patina of say some vintage Revere Ware copper bottom pans?

Wife made roasted red pepper soup the other night, clean up was easy even though she had scorched a bit of it. And last night was pasta with eggplant -- the wife went nutty with the cheese so it was kind of a mess when I got to clean up. But it cleaned up quickly with hot soapy water and a little elbow grease.

Keep in mind my wife does not use the method outlined below -- she just turns on the fire and dumps in the food. This can lead to problems. I've read (and found) that it's always best to let your stainless cookware warm a bit (and oil it if necessary, see below) before cooking for best non-stick results.

I often cook eggs in the ss skillet -- for things like this, I warm up the pan for exactly one minute at the cooking temp of the eggs, which is about medium-low on my jet burner; then I add just enough olive oil to coat the cooking surfaces (not too much -- if you dump in too much then dump out the excess before cooking) and let that warm for one minute at same temp, then I cook. Don't let your oil smoke, your food will stick/burn.

You need to be vigilant so you don't scorch during any of this...my wife is not the best at this and we've wound up with burnt oil, food, etc (she is good at baking, though!)....but if you stick to the plan and keep an eye on your heat, I have found this to be a flawless method for cooking on stainless steel. I can just wipe the pan out if I want, there is no [cemented] food residue when I use this method.

Stick to the plan so your meal isn't stuck to the pan! Sorry, couldn't resist, channeling Newt there!

I don't have the copper-coated pan, I have the silver one so I can't answer that part of your question.



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: SteveO
Date: January 05, 2017 03:17PM
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Bixby
Tramontina from Walmart is also pretty well regarded and reviewed. I have these, and along with my cast iron, need nothing else. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tramontina-8-Piece-18-10-Stainless-Steel-Tri-Ply-Clad-Cookware-Set/19581112

That is a nice deal! If I can't find this smaller sauce pan at a good price, I think I'll buy the Tramontina, thanks!
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 05, 2017 03:24PM
Best thing about stainless steel cookware, is that if you burn something in it, you can use spray oven cleaner!
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: bobinmurphy
Date: January 05, 2017 03:56PM
Stainless will end up tarnished if over heated and in time it will show scratches. Both are next to impossible to get out. I have set I bought about 20 years ago, they're still in fairly good condition but probably time to start looking for replacements.
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 05, 2017 04:01PM
Um, you just re-polish the steel.
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: billb
Date: January 05, 2017 04:20PM
I've gotten olive oil a degree or two too hot and left a stain in a SS pan. Oops. Not a big stain but one that wouldn't come out. Just continued cooking with it and it has cleaned itself.
Not quite as bad as davemachine's stained ss pan though.



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: mattkime
Date: January 05, 2017 04:40PM
The Tramonia is good stuff.



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 05, 2017 04:41PM
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Bixby
Tramontina from Walmart is also pretty well regarded and reviewed. I have these, and along with my cast iron, need nothing else. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tramontina-8-Piece-18-10-Stainless-Steel-Tri-Ply-Clad-Cookware-Set/19581112

I purchased the Tramontina tri-ply set for my wife (back when I was still married) - they are extremely well-made. This cookware is very highly regarded - Cooks Illustrated magazine compares it favorably to All-Clad's tri-ply offering. However, the pots in the set do not have the flared lip which, I have learned from first-hand experience, is a very useful feature.

I purchased this set for myself a couple of years ago: [www.amazon.com] It also compares favorably with the All-Clad and the Tramontina and all pieces in the set have the flared lip. I like it so much I recently purchased the set as a housewarming gift for an acquaintance of mine.

Whatever you do, if you go SS be sure to get tri-ply cookware. Regular non-tri-ply cookware does not perform anywhere near as well.



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: January 05, 2017 05:24PM
If you really want to get stains out, I've been able to get everything out with alternate applications of Easy-Off and Barkeepers Friend. DON'T MIX THEM! Acid and base together will be very evil...
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 05, 2017 05:35PM
Yup, my process exactly!
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 05, 2017 05:42PM
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If you really want to get stains out, I've been able to get everything out with alternate applications of Easy-Off and Barkeepers Friend. DON'T MIX THEM! Acid and base together will be very evil...

Huh? Mixing an acid and a base typically produces a salt and water. Have you not ever used a baking soda solution to clean the corrosion from your car battery terminals?



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: January 05, 2017 05:59PM
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anonymouse1
If you really want to get stains out, I've been able to get everything out with alternate applications of Easy-Off and Barkeepers Friend. DON'T MIX THEM! Acid and base together will be very evil...

That's what I do. The BKF works 90% of the time.
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: January 05, 2017 06:08PM
Depends on the concentrations, no? You could get heat and nasty spattering. Why take a chance? And I think the corrosion isn't very acidic.

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If you really want to get stains out, I've been able to get everything out with alternate applications of Easy-Off and Barkeepers Friend. DON'T MIX THEM! Acid and base together will be very evil...

Huh? Mixing an acid and a base typically produces a salt and water. Have you not ever used a baking soda solution to clean the corrosion from your car battery terminals?
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: MikeF
Date: January 05, 2017 06:18PM
I prefer pots and pans with glass lids so I can see what I'm overcooking and burning.
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 05, 2017 07:08PM
It does indeed. I don't believe the concentrations found in the products under discussion poses a danger.

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anonymouse1
Depends on the concentrations, no? You could get heat and nasty spattering. Why take a chance? And I think the corrosion isn't very acidic.

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anonymouse1
If you really want to get stains out, I've been able to get everything out with alternate applications of Easy-Off and Barkeepers Friend. DON'T MIX THEM! Acid and base together will be very evil...

Huh? Mixing an acid and a base typically produces a salt and water. Have you not ever used a baking soda solution to clean the corrosion from your car battery terminals?



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 05, 2017 07:10PM
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MikeF
I prefer pots and pans with glass lids so I can see what I'm overcooking and burning.

The Cuisinart tri-ply is available with that option, too, at an even better price: [www.amazon.com]



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: The UnDoug
Date: January 05, 2017 10:34PM
Steve G must be busy today. I thought for sure I'd see him weighing in on this topic!



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: Fritz
Date: January 06, 2017 06:41AM
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I prefer pots and pans with glass lids so I can see what I'm overcooking and burning.

gee, when can we come for dinner? don't you have one of the nose things on your face?

I believe the tri-ply set that costco (kirkland) sells at the stores, and on line, is produced by Tram in Thailand. Very nice stuff at a reasonable price.

I think the Walmart and Target variations are also Tram Thai.

Tried the Cuisinart stuff. It was very uncomfortable to hold for any period in my hands as was the All-Clad.
The scalloped handles. I'm so use to my old Farberware made in da bronx.

perhaps another option.



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: SteveO
Date: January 06, 2017 07:46PM
I'm told baking soda also works well for getting stains/stuck-on food off of ss cookware.
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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: Fritz
Date: January 06, 2017 07:59PM
oxiclean and let it soak a while. kills it.



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Re: PSA: Stainless Steel Cookware Recommendation, Possible RYF
Posted by: billb
Date: January 06, 2017 09:53PM
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I prefer pots and pans with glass lids so I can see what I'm overcooking and burning.

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