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Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: January 13, 2017 11:51PM
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Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"




I never do. My English teacher drilled it into me but I wouldn't have anyway.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 13, 2017 11:58PM
I'm comturble either way.



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: January 14, 2017 12:01AM
....pronounce it twice.......tee....tee.....



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: riley5108
Date: January 14, 2017 12:40AM
I think either way is acceptable.
Kind of like, do you pronounce the "t" in "oftentimes"?



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Southern Indiana, B-Town



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2017 12:45AM by riley5108.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 14, 2017 01:24AM
yes, because oftenimes sounds stupid.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: freeradical
Date: January 14, 2017 01:37AM
There is no flour in Fluorine.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: billb
Date: January 14, 2017 02:44AM
cunning linguists don't limit themselves to back and forth



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: GuyGene
Date: January 14, 2017 03:16AM
I often do.



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: mstudio
Date: January 14, 2017 05:37AM
Never, never, never. The T is silent! It seems to be fairly recent that I'm hearing people pronounce the T. Where did that come from? Drives me nutz.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: riley5108
Date: January 14, 2017 06:08AM
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Racer X
yes, because oftenimes sounds stupid.
RollingEyesSmiley5
Good point, but of course I meant "ofentimes" or "oftentimes"



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Southern Indiana, B-Town
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Will Collier
Date: January 14, 2017 07:40AM
Not very ofen, no.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 14, 2017 07:43AM
when I learned English, pronunciation was the most difficult thing.

phonetic languages are great.

if T is not silent, why not spell the word without it?

ofen

in fact ofan
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Will Collier
Date: January 14, 2017 08:09AM
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space-time
when I learned English, pronunciation was the most difficult thing.

phonetic languages are great.

if T is not silent, why not spell the word without it?

ofen

in fact ofan

"Yes, English can be weird. It can be understood through tough thorough thought, though." --David Burge
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: BernDog
Date: January 14, 2017 08:48AM
Do any of you "t" people say "soften" with the t?
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: pdq
Date: January 14, 2017 09:16AM
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space-time
when I learned English, pronunciation was the most difficult thing.

phonetic languages are great.

if T is not silent, why not spell the word without it?

ofen

in fact ofan

Second this, even tho I'm a native English speaker. The spoken language is not too bad- (mostly) simple plurals, minimal gender...too many irregular verbs, I guess. But as Will Collier/David Burge points out, our spelling is an absolute mess. If I ruled the (English-speaking) world, I would make it all phonetic. Not much chanz of that hapening, tho.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Acer
Date: January 14, 2017 09:38AM
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Will Collier
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space-time
when I learned English, pronunciation was the most difficult thing.

phonetic languages are great.

if T is not silent, why not spell the word without it?

ofen

in fact ofan

"Yes, English can be weird. It can be understood through tough thorough thought, though." --David Burge

"The tough coughs as he ploughs the dough" --Theodore Geisel



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2017 09:39AM by Acer.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: billb
Date: January 14, 2017 11:15AM
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space-time

phonetic languages are great.

if T is not silent, why not spell the word without it?


Some people use language to showcase their intelligence and education, or in some cases lack thereof.



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: freeradical
Date: January 14, 2017 11:25AM
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space-time
when I learned English, pronunciation was the most difficult thing.

phonetic languages are great.

if T is not silent, why not spell the word without it?

ofen

in fact ofan


English is not too bad about this. Polish is the language that looks impossible to English speakers. Triple consonants are quite common in Polish.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: billb
Date: January 14, 2017 11:31AM
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freeradical
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space-time
when I learned English, pronunciation was the most difficult thing.

phonetic languages are great.

if T is not silent, why not spell the word without it?

ofen

in fact ofan


English is not too bad about this. Polish is the language that looks impossible to English speakers. Triple consonants are quite common in Polish.

and Icelandic is a piece of cake.



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 14, 2017 11:34AM
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billb
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space-time

phonetic languages are great.

if T is not silent, why not spell the word without it?


Some people use language to showcase their intelligence and education, or in some cases lack thereof.

yeah Billb, I posted before having coffee, OK? you make a big deal about it, there intelligent posters understood what I said.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: January 14, 2017 11:46AM
NEVER!!! and, I HATE ON PEOPLE THAT DO!
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: January 14, 2017 01:40PM
I underpronounce English about as much as possible, by habit not active choice. American English speakers frequently make the mistake of overpronouncing words recently derived from other languages or unfamiliar words and names from those languages, so I try to apply the same underpronunciation to those foreign words and it works pretty well.

This derives from an interview with Robert Plant from the '70s where he makes fun of Americans for overpronouncing Bron-Yr-Aur, as if we have some magic insight into Welsh pronunciation. Whatever makes you feel better, Bob.

BTW, I pronounce 'pronunciation' as 'pronounciation' just 'cuz I wanna.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: January 14, 2017 01:41PM
[www.merriam-webster.com]

Merriam Webster says either pronunciation is OK.

Oxford Dictionaries says that there is no clear consensus on which pronunciation is correct, although silent t is more common.

[blog.oxforddictionaries.com]
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: $tevie
Date: January 14, 2017 03:01PM
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Lemon Drop
http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2015/06/9-pronunciation-arguments-you-can-stop-having/

Thanks for that link! I had to share that on FB because it's quite interesting.



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: wurm
Date: January 14, 2017 03:09PM
The "t" is silent, like the "p" in "swimming".
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Done
Date: January 14, 2017 04:12PM
Did you ask this question because of the movie Patriots Day? I think that is where I heard it yesterday.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: billb
Date: January 14, 2017 04:31PM
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space-time
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billb
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space-time

phonetic languages are great.

if T is not silent, why not spell the word without it?


Some people use language to showcase their intelligence and education, or in some cases lack thereof.

yeah Billb, I posted before having coffee, OK? you make a big deal about it, there intelligent posters understood what I said.

You are some people before you have coffee ?



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: datbeme
Date: January 14, 2017 04:54PM
I never pronounce the "t"—but I often go back and forth on route, caramel and envelope.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: January 14, 2017 05:22PM
I do not pronounce the "t" in often, but I ALWAYS pronounce the "k" in knife.

For example, he came at me with a big KA-NIFE!!



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: January 14, 2017 05:40PM
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Done
Did you ask this question because of the movie Patriots Day? I think that is where I heard it yesterday.

No.
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: January 14, 2017 06:50PM
....hey, t........t......i.....c....u........!



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Will Collier
Date: January 14, 2017 08:30PM
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wurm
The "t" is silent, like the "p" in "swimming".
**golf clap**
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: GuyGene
Date: January 14, 2017 11:17PM
I think the only thing that kind of gets to me a bit when it comes to things like this is when some people use it as one more way to show superiority over others who do it differently, even if sometimes wrong. The idea of, "... see, I AM better than you after all." People DO know when another person sets himself up as being a bit better than others. That's all. old fogey smiley



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: datbeme
Date: January 15, 2017 09:13AM
^^^
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: January 15, 2017 10:22AM
Never, and you won't hear that down here.

The shibboleth I most often hear in my area is people adding "r" to words, e.g. "idear," "Warshington."
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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 15, 2017 11:25AM
NSFW language:

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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: January 15, 2017 12:08PM
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Lux Interior
NSFW language:

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Heh! That's great! I'll have to remember, "F your whole life!" next time I get angry. smiley-laughing001



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Re: Do you pronounce the "t" in "often?"
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: January 19, 2017 06:59PM
....some here suck on it.....t.......t.......



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