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I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 03, 2017 08:50PM
This recipe has me roasting a chicken nearly every week - [www.seriouseats.com]

one problem. the house ends up obnoxiously smoky, even with the hood vent on.

maaaybe i need a larger pan. i noticed some splatter over the edges of the pan on to the interior of the oven.

how to roast without the smoke?



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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 03, 2017 09:13PM
on the grill, outside. You no longer live in a tiny apartment in NYC.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: May 03, 2017 09:26PM
You need to clean your oven, shouldn't be any smoke.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: Drew
Date: May 03, 2017 09:38PM
I roast in an electric stand-alone roaster oven. Very little/no smoke.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: Microman
Date: May 03, 2017 09:56PM
I have to be honest, I thought you were getting the munchies by the smell of the cooking meat, and you were lighting up a Joint.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: May 03, 2017 11:16PM
Roast covered ( lid or foil tent). Only uncover for the last 10 minutes for crispy skin.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 03, 2017 11:59PM
I thought he had a pork or lamb leg joint he was smoking.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: Mike Johnson
Date: May 04, 2017 12:48AM
You really don't need to roast it at 450 degrees. And if you haven't checked your oven temperature with a thermometer, your 450 degree oven could actually be even hotter.

Where is the smoke coming from? If it's coming from splatter on the roof of the oven, try a lower rack. If it's coming from the pan, slide an air bake insulated cookie sheet under the roasting pan 15 or 20 minutes into the process.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: artie67
Date: May 04, 2017 01:07AM
Do you have an exhaust fan? Have you cleaned the filter this year? Etc.
Clean the filters in the dish washer with other greasy stuff.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: 3d
Date: May 04, 2017 04:52AM
Tell us more about this hood vent.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: Pam
Date: May 04, 2017 05:12AM
Olive oil has a low smoke point (temp). It's all I ever use and I've found 375 to be the highest temp I can use without dealing with a lot of smoke.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: MacJeepster
Date: May 04, 2017 06:27AM
Switch to a sous vide.
Never any smoke and meat is a lot more juicy and tender.



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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 04, 2017 07:09AM
......tell your dealer to cut you off so that you don't buy any more joints.....to smoke.....



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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: Lizabeth
Date: May 04, 2017 07:12AM
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Pam
Olive oil has a low smoke point (temp). It's all I ever use and I've found 375 to be the highest temp I can use without dealing with a lot of smoke.

What about using ghee instead?
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: pipiens
Date: May 04, 2017 08:43AM
smiley-score010
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MacJeepster
Switch to a sous vide.
Never any smoke and meat is a lot more juicy and tender.

smiley-score010

You can cook the dark meat and white meat to different temperatures and crisp the skin with a blow torch at the end
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: Pam
Date: May 04, 2017 08:48AM
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Lizabeth
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Pam
Olive oil has a low smoke point (temp). It's all I ever use and I've found 375 to be the highest temp I can use without dealing with a lot of smoke.

What about using ghee instead?

Allergies/intolerances. I use coconut oil in my baking but prefer a different flavor for meats and veggies.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: particleman
Date: May 04, 2017 02:08PM
Does the hood vent actually vent to the outside?
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 04, 2017 04:30PM
And is the fan any good? We went from an anemic 70cfm vent hood fan to a 140, and it makes a HUGE difference. Low setting is 70, high is 140. You can watch the smoke drift diagonally upward and get sucked into the hood. Pretty cool.
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 04, 2017 06:05PM
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particleman
Does the hood vent actually vent to the outside?

no, its just a filter -with a fan on the ceiling. which is to say that its not great venting but its better than we had at the last place.



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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: JoeH
Date: May 04, 2017 07:54PM
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mattkime
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particleman
Does the hood vent actually vent to the outside?

no, its just a filter -with a fan on the ceiling. which is to say that its not great venting but its better than we had at the last place.

So it is not actually doing anything more than maybe removing some soot, grease and other large particulates from the air. The compounds that cause the odor and most of the smaller particulates will not be removed by most range hood filters.

But basically, the recipe you have been following uses too high a temperature for the olive oil. You can probably get the same results using something more like 400 degrees and a bit longer cooking time. Also use a higher sided roasting pan to avoid the spatter, that is where much of your smoke is coming from



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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 04, 2017 11:00PM
maybe blend the olive oil with corn oil 50/50 and get the smoke point up around 425. Cooking at 500 is pretty darn hot unless it is a pizza in an oven with a ceramic/stone bottom.

Have you TRIED it around 400, just once?



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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: May 05, 2017 07:45AM
I cook chicken at 475f and then lower the oven to 375, and never get any splatter. I use a roasting pan with cover but uncover for the last 30.

I use olive oil exclusively and have never had a smoky oven.
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Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 05, 2017 08:23AM
....someone once said.....smoke gets in your eyes......



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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: JoeH
Date: May 05, 2017 03:02PM
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mrbigstuff
I cook chicken at 475f and then lower the oven to 375, and never get any splatter. I use a roasting pan with cover but uncover for the last 30.

I use olive oil exclusively and have never had a smoky oven.

The closed roasting pan will keep the olive oil from getting too hot, the steam contained inside holds the temperature down. Your final roasting with the cover off after turning down to 375 is at around the smoke point, so unlikely to heat enough to smoke.

But more important, the covering helps keep the oil from spattering onto the hot oven liner, and then smoking.



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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: May 05, 2017 08:24PM
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JoeH
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mrbigstuff
I cook chicken at 475f and then lower the oven to 375, and never get any splatter. I use a roasting pan with cover but uncover for the last 30.

I use olive oil exclusively and have never had a smoky oven.

The closed roasting pan will keep the olive oil from getting too hot, the steam contained inside holds the temperature down. Your final roasting with the cover off after turning down to 375 is at around the smoke point, so unlikely to heat enough to smoke.

But more important, the covering helps keep the oil from spattering onto the hot oven liner, and then smoking.

The closed pan certainly does keep the splatter inside the pan, but the point is that olive oil issue is a red herring; any oil will behave the same way in theoven. I've done it uncovered, too, and beside it not cooking evenly, there is no splatter (with a pan with decently sized sides).
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Re: I like making roasts. how to roast without smoking up the joint?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 09, 2017 04:00PM
.....420.....



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