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Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: Acer
Date: July 15, 2017 03:53PM
Flooring question below brought this to mind:

We're looking at hard flooring in our dining area. It's going over linoleum and exposed plywood (there is no original exquisite hardwood in this part of the house to unearth.)

We'd like a laminate product, we think. It will be a heavy, daily use area, lots of sliding chairs, foot traffic and general abuse.

What I don't like about many laminate surfaces I have walked on is the hollow, plastic sound and thin, flexible feel you get when walking on them. What am I looking for in product or installation that will give a solid feel? Should it be wood after all?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2017 03:54PM by Acer.
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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: Carm
Date: July 15, 2017 04:05PM
You need a solid foundation and it needs to be nailed in. You also need a real wood engineered product like solid wood only slightly cheaper. What you have probably walked on is floating laminate. That would give you that cheap feeling.

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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: sekker
Date: July 15, 2017 04:10PM
We like our bamboo. It's survived as well as any of our laminate.
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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: modelamac
Date: July 15, 2017 04:17PM
Have you considered deck material. Some of that is very attractive.



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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: billb
Date: July 15, 2017 04:21PM
If your linoleum is glued down well you can glue or nail and use the thinner laminates.
If your linoleum is not glued down you're really gonna want to nail your laminate down. As long as you have the required substrate to nail to.



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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: Carm
Date: July 15, 2017 04:24PM
Laminate vs hardwood
[www.coswick.com]
We did floating laminate and it looked nice for about a year. Then it started looking bad. Water, dirt and dropping stuff on it damage. (We have dogs and children). Ripped it out in the living room, dining,office, and kitchen. We keep it in the bedrooms. This was in my second home.

Current home has porcelain tile that looks like wood. Much better and more durable, not from local home improvement centers, they didn't have the color or size that we wanted. Has held up well and no complaints.
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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: jdc
Date: July 15, 2017 04:56PM
We have had real wood floors in our house for 15 years on a concrete subfloor -- not even super good stuff, maybe 3/8" -- but its as solid as day one.

Lots of little scratches and what not, but no buckling, or separating, or wear patterns.

I suppose the good laminate, like $5 SF might be as good, or at least it feels like it when I touch in in Home Depot -- but no idea what it will look like in 15...



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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: bik
Date: July 15, 2017 05:10PM
I'll second Carm's suggestion of engineered wood. Even the best laminate is going to have a limited lifetime in a high-traffic area.

Engineered wood is a good compromise between actual solid hardwood and laminates.
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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: July 15, 2017 06:20PM
faux wood ceramic tile. it is solid, will hold up to heavy use, water and spill proof, and likely quieter than laminate. The pieces I've seen look very good.



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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: Racer X
Date: July 15, 2017 11:32PM
Real hardwood planks. Pay once, cry once.
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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: pdq
Date: July 16, 2017 06:50PM
We put in composite stuff that's, like, 1/4-3/8" thick (on top of the existing subfloor, on top of "silent floor" manufactured joists). It feels pretty solid, but has a slightly softer-than-tile harness, so dropped plates don"t automatically shatter (it's in the kitchen).

Wife says it's called "LVT" (for "luxury vinyl tile").
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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: mikebw
Date: July 17, 2017 09:36AM
If you are not going to put in a thick real wood floor, then the task of providing a solid feel falls to the subfloor. This could mean adding a layer of 3/8" plywood, or tearing out what is already in place and putting down new 3/4" ply.

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We like our bamboo. It's survived as well as any of our laminate.

We put in the click-lock bamboo stuff from Costco several years ago and it has been great. Very durable, easy to clean, simple installation and it looks great. Subfloor is kinda thin so it will flex in places but that's fine with me, and it does not have that cheap laminate thin/hollow sound.

Only issues have been due to expansion and contraction, mostly the latter. Wound up leaving too much of a gap around some edges which have since contracted beyond the cover of the moulding. I will be able to put a thicker moulding board in to help cover that, but next time I would leave less of a gap. User error.
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Re: Solid Flooring with a solid "sound"
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: July 17, 2017 12:18PM
What about roofing felt?
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