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How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 15, 2017 04:05PM
I was using my Macbook Pro and Opera with the Private Browsing turned on and previous history and cookies cleared out. I was looking at a very specific flash unit and corresponding wireless transmitter.

I hop on FB a few minutes later and there are ads for those two exact items.

How did these two share my browsing info if I used two separate systems and did not use Opera with FB on the same browser?



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: billb
Date: August 15, 2017 04:19PM
Facebook doesn't know. The sites you visited know you were there and they put you on a list that Facebook then uses to retarget your visit. It's a fairy immediate system.



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: August 15, 2017 04:24PM
That's what content blockers are for, i.e. to prevent furrowed brows…
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 15, 2017 04:35PM
I looked up these items on BH to begin with is they tend to have more users reviews of certain items. This kind of data sharing makes me less likely to buy from them.



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: August 15, 2017 04:55PM
The question becomes: Who is not sharing that type of data? Is there anyone not doing this?
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 15, 2017 04:58PM
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Lew Zealand
The question becomes: Who is not sharing that type of data? Is there anyone not doing this?

I know that they share it. I am asking how I can minimize or stop it.



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: hal
Date: August 15, 2017 05:36PM
I buy from B&H all the time and never had any idea that this was happening. Since I don't have an account with FB, there is no problem. Therefore....
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: AllGold
Date: August 15, 2017 06:10PM
I admit that I don't really know how this works and maybe I'm just being paranoid but I'm starting to wonder if some of the ad sites can dig through your browsing history and/or cookies.



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: August 15, 2017 07:08PM
What happens if you browse with the B&H app?
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: August 15, 2017 07:19PM
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pRICE cUBE
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Lew Zealand
The question becomes: Who is not sharing that type of data? Is there anyone not doing this?

I know that they share it. I am asking how I can minimize or stop it.

See above.
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: August 15, 2017 07:38PM
Deep tracking cookies using your IP address and user profile. It could be your ISP tracking you and paying Facebook to show you ads and nothing to do with B&H sharing information. I get ads for stuff on Yahoo mail in Firefox when I have only visited those websites with Chrome. The only organization that could aggregate that data is my ISP or some third party tracking my IP address.



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: Altered Horizons
Date: August 15, 2017 09:59PM
Try Privacy Badger from the Electronic Frontier Foundation:

Privacy Badger

Blocks spying ads and invisible trackers. There's a version for Opera.



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 15, 2017 11:14PM
I get that all the time, even for ads that are linked to YouTube videos I have viewed.
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: tronnei
Date: August 15, 2017 11:42PM
I used Google Chrome on a Win 7 machine at work to look at landscape lights on Amazon.

Come home and launch Safari on my Mac and myriad web pages I view have ads for said landscape lights on Amazon.

My conclusion: Amazon spies on me, and they're not using tracking cookies and/or my IP address to do it.
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: srf1957
Date: August 15, 2017 11:53PM
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: August 16, 2017 07:43AM
....probably cookies.....delete them periodically.....



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 16, 2017 09:29AM
So do many of you prefer to get ads that are unrelated to tour interests?




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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: pinion
Date: August 16, 2017 09:42AM
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Altered Horizons
Try Privacy Badger from the Electronic Frontier Foundation:

Privacy Badger

Blocks spying ads and invisible trackers. There's a version for Opera.

I feel compelled to give this a +1.



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: August 16, 2017 09:47AM
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M A V I C
So do many of you prefer to get ads that are unrelated to tour interests?

There is a creepiness factor that bothers me, and I question its effectiveness. I have never, ever clicked on an ad that shows me content based on that kind of data acquisition. Not as a protest, but rather because if I had wanted whatever it was when I looked at it, I would have bought it; and if I decide that I want it in the future, I will go back to wherever I found it, in all likelihood. The ad accomplishes exactly what it would accomplish if it showed me Barbie dolls or golf clubs or car stereos or wildly expensive food processors: nothing.
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 16, 2017 12:43PM
Darn it, I thought I mentioned that I checked FB on my phone via the app. Somehow my laptop browser and my iPhone made the advertising connection.

So it wasn't a case if using my browser for BH and then forgetting to clear out cookies.



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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: August 16, 2017 01:48PM
As far as I can detect, I think this is happening:

If you are logged in to *any* account (Gmail, FB, Amazon, Newegg, any social media, maybe Office365?), they will track you and share browsing preferences, perhaps by keeping that data mostly local and later on synching to their cloud servers. That data will then be fed to any other device you are using which is logged in to one of those accounts and the ads will be targeted towards your recent browsing and searches.

I don't leave anything logged in, except I forgot that I do: Amazon. And they're a *big* advertiser. It looks like the ad services (AdChoice?) take whatever data they can grab about you, even if it's only a little, and blast as much as is relevant in the empty ad spaces that they serve. So I can be at *any* site on the internet, even a competitor's (newegg, for example), and since they only have Amazon data from me, I get the same Amazon ads at every website I load which use that advertising service (again, AdChoice I think), even at newegg, AMZ's direct competition.
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 16, 2017 07:47PM
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M A V I C
So do many of you prefer to get ads that are unrelated to tour interests?

There is a creepiness factor that bothers me, and I question its effectiveness. I have never, ever clicked on an ad that shows me content based on that kind of data acquisition. Not as a protest, but rather because if I had wanted whatever it was when I looked at it, I would have bought it; and if I decide that I want it in the future, I will go back to wherever I found it, in all likelihood. The ad accomplishes exactly what it would accomplish if it showed me Barbie dolls or golf clubs or car stereos or wildly expensive food processors: nothing.

It's one of the most effective forms of advertising online.




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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 16, 2017 07:49PM
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Darn it, I thought I mentioned that I checked FB on my phone via the app. Somehow my laptop browser and my iPhone made the advertising connection.

So it wasn't a case if using my browser for BH and then forgetting to clear out cookies.

Have you given your phone number to any of them? The while "secure your account, give us your phone number" is largely a marketing ploy to track you across devices, apps and sites.

Your FB app undoubtedly has your phone number.




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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: August 16, 2017 09:50PM
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M A V I C
So do many of you prefer to get ads that are unrelated to tour interests?

There is a creepiness factor that bothers me, and I question its effectiveness. I have never, ever clicked on an ad that shows me content based on that kind of data acquisition. Not as a protest, but rather because if I had wanted whatever it was when I looked at it, I would have bought it; and if I decide that I want it in the future, I will go back to wherever I found it, in all likelihood. The ad accomplishes exactly what it would accomplish if it showed me Barbie dolls or golf clubs or car stereos or wildly expensive food processors: nothing.

It's one of the most effective forms of advertising online.

Based on?
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Re: How did B&H Photo tell Facebook that I was looking at certain items?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: August 17, 2017 01:58PM
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M A V I C
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ka jowct
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M A V I C
So do many of you prefer to get ads that are unrelated to tour interests?

There is a creepiness factor that bothers me, and I question its effectiveness. I have never, ever clicked on an ad that shows me content based on that kind of data acquisition. Not as a protest, but rather because if I had wanted whatever it was when I looked at it, I would have bought it; and if I decide that I want it in the future, I will go back to wherever I found it, in all likelihood. The ad accomplishes exactly what it would accomplish if it showed me Barbie dolls or golf clubs or car stereos or wildly expensive food processors: nothing.

It's one of the most effective forms of advertising online.

Based on?

Conversions.




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