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Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: September 06, 2017 10:34AM
If you have tips or products that you could recommend, please do so here.

This 1 month 390 servings of food bucket doesn't look like too bad of a deal. [www.costco.com]
Your Price114.99$
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 06, 2017 10:45AM
Actually, on that note. Store your stuff in 5 gallon buckets with those Gamma Seal lids. The buckets will come in handy "if" and they make decent seats. Buckets are cheaper at Lowes than HD last time I checked. Gamma Seals, Leaktite, and other names. Make sure the screw on lid has a sealing gasket. Sometimes used for pet food too.

7 gallon buckets make GOOD seats.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: September 06, 2017 10:58AM
A LifeStraw is an essential for every bugout bag. Also, Woot.com periodically has good deals on 7-14 days emergency food rations for 1-4 people. First-Aid kit, compass, a good knife, lighter, matches...light, signal mirror, plastic tarp or bags are essential tools as well. They can be used to collect water.

I have one of these as well:

[www.iconlifesaver.com]



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Pam
Date: September 06, 2017 11:49AM
Food, water, shelter... Lots of long term food items, MRE's out there. Lifestraw and other water filters may be needed, or at least water bottles containers. For shelter, a tarp and contractor grade trash bags are very versatile. Cut a slit at the end of a trash bag and you have rain gear. Crawl inside to keep warm. Stuff with leaves or straw for insulation from the ground. Extra good stuff are waterproof/windproof matches, fire starter (e cubes, cotton balls smeared with vaseline, cedar wood mixed with wax... ) headlamp, flashlight, lots of batteries, first aid kit, knife, whistle, paracord, work gloves, Sven folding saw....

Just what are we prepping for?
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Ammo
Date: September 06, 2017 11:56AM
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Pam

Just what are we prepping for?

There aren't a lot of natural catastrophes that occur in Minnesota.

Sadly, when I ponder emergency plans, I am thinking about man-made ones.



"When the tree falls, the monkeys scatter." Chinese proverb.

Always remember that your present situation is not your final destination.

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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: billb
Date: September 06, 2017 11:57AM
I'd rather just keep a week's supply of canned food ( not fan of canned vegetables, except for maybe beans ) and rotate once a year. ( or donate to USPS drive any unexpired cans )


last time I read the fine print on the required storage parameters the shelf life claims were pretty much worthless for 10 year storage buckets



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: jh
Date: September 06, 2017 11:57AM
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Pam
Just what are we prepping for?

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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 06, 2017 11:58AM
Then fill your 7 gallon bucket with gamma seal with several pistols, 5,000 rounds of ammo and some dessicant bags.

For the record, I read a very interesting and well researched article about trying to survive on hunting rabbits and squirrels for food. A family of 4 will strip an area of both pretty fast, and the population can't rebound until you move on. "Food" for thought. That's assuming no one ELSE is hunting them too.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Ammo
Date: September 06, 2017 12:04PM
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ztirffritz
A LifeStraw is an essential for every bugout bag. Also, Woot.com periodically has good deals on 7-14 days emergency food rations for 1-4 people. First-Aid kit, compass, a good knife, lighter, matches,

Life Straws are good, but for longer periods of time or for more than a few people, I think you might want to consider a larger filter of some sort.

As Pam said, begin by thinking in terms of the essentials: food, water and shelter. If you might need to move away from an event, thinking about how you will do that is also essential. For some, meds are essential.



"When the tree falls, the monkeys scatter." Chinese proverb.

Always remember that your present situation is not your final destination.

"The opposite for courage is not cowardice, it is conformity. Even a dead fish can go with the flow." Jim Hightower



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: September 06, 2017 12:09PM
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Pam
Food, water, shelter... Lots of long term food items, MRE's out there. Lifestraw and other water filters may be needed, or at least water bottles containers. For shelter, a tarp and contractor grade trash bags are very versatile. Cut a slit at the end of a trash bag and you have rain gear. Crawl inside to keep warm. Stuff with leaves or straw for insulation from the ground. Extra good stuff are waterproof/windproof matches, fire starter (e cubes, cotton balls smeared with vaseline, cedar wood mixed with wax... ) headlamp, flashlight, lots of batteries, first aid kit, knife, whistle, paracord, work gloves, Sven folding saw....

Just what are we prepping for?


Natural disasters that could cut off basic and essential services for longer than a week. These two hurricanes give a lot of cause for thought.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: September 06, 2017 12:11PM
Life Straw has a family unit that is good for 5000 gallons. Cost is about $150 IIRC

A couple solar yard lights will light up a room and no worry about batteries or where to plug a charger in.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 06, 2017 12:15PM
Good point on the life straw. For a portable BOB, it is a good idea. For long term, you need the ability to treat a lot of water. Having a few gallons of bleach around is a decent idea. After treatment, if left open and uncovered, the bleach smell/taste will dissipate some in the water. You can also DISINFECT with bleach. That's part of a longer term strategy, not just immediate survival. I usually have several 3/4 gallon bottles of bleach in our garage/laundry room. I rotate through to keep them fresh. Just generic stuff from the dollar store.

One aspect of survival is surviving. Eventually someone without will want what you have, regardless of your feelings on the subject. I choose to protect myself and those with me. Just saying. A decision only YOU can make for yourself. Enough said.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: September 06, 2017 12:18PM
Stay frosty, and try not to get killed!

There are many LED camping lanterns available that last for a very long time on batteries. We keep a few of them around for power outages. Very powerful and also portable to grab when "bugging out".



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: norse
Date: September 06, 2017 12:20PM
I see you're preparing for N. Korea. sad smiley
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 06, 2017 12:26PM
Wolverines!
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Pam
Date: September 06, 2017 12:34PM
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pRICE cUBE
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Pam
Food, water, shelter... Lots of long term food items, MRE's out there. Lifestraw and other water filters may be needed, or at least water bottles containers. For shelter, a tarp and contractor grade trash bags are very versatile. Cut a slit at the end of a trash bag and you have rain gear. Crawl inside to keep warm. Stuff with leaves or straw for insulation from the ground. Extra good stuff are waterproof/windproof matches, fire starter (e cubes, cotton balls smeared with vaseline, cedar wood mixed with wax... ) headlamp, flashlight, lots of batteries, first aid kit, knife, whistle, paracord, work gloves, Sven folding saw....

Just what are we prepping for?


Natural disasters that could cut off basic and essential services for longer than a week. These two hurricanes give a lot of cause for thought.

You'd basically need to self sustain for up to a week, then you'd get moved to an area unaffected by the disaster. At that point money would be what you'd need.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: mikebw
Date: September 06, 2017 12:55PM
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pRICE cUBE
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Pam
Just what are we prepping for?

Natural disasters that could cut off basic and essential services for longer than a week. These two hurricanes give a lot of cause for thought.

Not to mention widespread electric grid outages - [arstechnica.com]
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: September 06, 2017 01:09PM
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mikebw
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pRICE cUBE
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Pam
Just what are we prepping for?

Natural disasters that could cut off basic and essential services for longer than a week. These two hurricanes give a lot of cause for thought.

Not to mention widespread electric grid outages - [arstechnica.com]


Maybe preparing for service outages that last a month wouldn't be a bad idea.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 06, 2017 01:12PM
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norse
I see you're preparing for N. Korea. sad smiley
Looters are endemic in disasters. They are a clear sign of the rule of law breaking down. RacerX has a point. There are short term disasters to prepare for.. a few days. There are medium term disasters... a couple of weeks. After that, things break all the way down. Then you're into prepper zone. And no, I'm not talking about zombie preppers. I'm talking about people buying farmland and stashing seeds and farming tools. People who think long term.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: decay
Date: September 06, 2017 01:23PM
All of this is food for thought and action, no matter how paranoid (or not) you are.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 06, 2017 01:29PM
Very true. Just making sure you have reliable flashlights with good batteries, maybe a life straw and some bleach, good medium sized first aid kit, waterproof matches and some disposable lighters, and some long term stable and portable food are excellent ideas for everyone everywhere.

This is basic needs 101 for a few days.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Pam
Date: September 06, 2017 02:40PM
A camp stove is also good to have, even if you have a grill. It can more easily travel by car if needed.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 06, 2017 02:54PM
I have a number of MSR single burner stoves. With a jet swap, they can burn just about any clean liquid petroleum. There are just 2, Coleman (naptha) and gasoline, and the other for diesel/kerosene/stoddard solvent and likely paint thinner.

Never tried them with alcohol though.

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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Pam
Date: September 06, 2017 03:12PM
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Racer X
I have a number of MSR single burner stoves. With a jet swap, they can burn just about any clean liquid petroleum. There are just 2, Coleman (naptha) and gasoline, and the other for diesel/kerosene/stoddard solvent and likely paint thinner.

Never tried them with alcohol though.

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I was thinking of the old standard two burner Coleman [smile.amazon.com]

But along your lines this just uses twigs [smile.amazon.com]
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: jdc
Date: September 06, 2017 03:18PM
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Pam
Just what are we prepping for?

This goes thru my head every time we discuss this, guess Im just lucky that theres nothing "disaster" related that could ever really happen to us.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 06, 2017 03:26PM
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Ammo
There aren't a lot of natural catastrophes that occur in Minnesota.

Yep. A big ole ice storm or a huge blizzard might take out power over a wide area for a few days. Tornadoes and floods are pretty localized so a short drive to a friend or relative solves your problem.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: decay
Date: September 06, 2017 03:26PM
We are only an hour from this reactor:
[www.phillyvoice.com]

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When taken as directed, potassium iodide can help protect against harmful radioactive iodine during emergencies, the county noted.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: September 06, 2017 03:51PM
Open floor plan both upstairs & downstairs in my home.

So I keep a table lamp in both locations on an inexpensive UPS, which with a 9W LED bulb allows several hours of "normal" light during a power failure.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: September 06, 2017 04:31PM
Power for as long as you can find gas:
[www.evextend.com]

Chevy Volt not included.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: hal
Date: September 06, 2017 04:33PM
Lifestraws don't work very well in practice - not if you're using as your main source - ESPECIALLY if its for several people.

When backpacking, I use a Platypus gravityworks filter and it's what I would use in an emergency too.

It'll make a gallon of clean water in just a few minutes. Sawyer squeeze is popular too, but tends to break down in the field.

very lightweight, very collapsible...
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 06, 2017 04:54PM
Mosquito repellent.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: freeradical
Date: September 06, 2017 06:38PM
90% silver bullion coins
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: decay
Date: September 06, 2017 08:16PM
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freeradical
90% silver bullion coins

I wonder if that will be more valuable than food, or weapons?



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 06, 2017 08:29PM
Actually, it is heavily theorized that after a prolonged situation, live ammo will be a medium of barter. .22LR, 9mm and .223/5.56 and .308/7.62 as well as 7.62x39.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: September 06, 2017 09:23PM
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freeradical
90% silver bullion coins

Can you enlighten me as to why silver bullion is preferable over gold?



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: freeradical
Date: September 06, 2017 09:33PM
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pRICE cUBE
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freeradical
90% silver bullion coins

Can you enlighten me as to why silver bullion is preferable over gold?

People are less likely to kill you for a silver coin than a gold coin.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: jdc
Date: September 06, 2017 09:50PM
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Racer X
Actually, it is heavily theorized that after a prolonged situation, live ammo will be a medium of barter. .22LR, 9mm and .223/5.56 and .308/7.62 as well as 7.62x39.

22LR is cheeeeeap.

Although "ammo as barter" sounds like zombie apocolypse = not reality...



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 06, 2017 10:09PM
You can feed yourself and your family with bullets. Without them, your rifle is a club.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: freeradical
Date: September 06, 2017 10:10PM
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jdc
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Racer X
Actually, it is heavily theorized that after a prolonged situation, live ammo will be a medium of barter. .22LR, 9mm and .223/5.56 and .308/7.62 as well as 7.62x39.

22LR is cheeeeeap.

Yeah, I don't think I've ever bought .22LR in quanties of less than a "brick" of 500.

The .223 cartridge isn't exactly rare either. There are mountains of that stuff around.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: jdc
Date: September 06, 2017 10:30PM
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Racer X
You can feed yourself and your family with bullets. Without them, your rifle is a club.

Still sounds like some sort of dystopian future. Or the 1840s.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 06, 2017 10:45PM
Think Tanks with psychologists and sociologists buy into it FWIW. Basic human nature always wins. There will always be someone who wants more than everyone else, or what someone else has. That's why Communism will never work. Someone will ALWAYS want more than their fair share.
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Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 06, 2017 11:06PM
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norse
I see you're preparing for N. Korea. sad smiley

This a topic of great concern for those of us on the Left Coast.



It is what it is.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: norse
Date: September 07, 2017 12:30AM
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norse
I see you're preparing for N. Korea. sad smiley

This a topic of great concern for those of us on the Left Coast.


Fat Boy doesn't need a direct hit.

[www.newsmax.com]
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: jdc
Date: September 07, 2017 01:39AM
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norse
Fat Boy doesn't need a direct hit.

[www.newsmax.com]

Gulp, thats a tuff site to swallow when the rest of their stories are taken from TMZ:

Watch Exclusive Trailer - How Would You Survive?
The #1 Worst Food for High Blood Pressure
US soldiers find controversial war relic (pic)
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: September 07, 2017 09:15AM
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freeradical
90% silver bullion coins

Can you enlighten me as to why silver bullion is preferable over gold?

People are less likely to kill you for a silver coin than a gold coin.


OK, thanks for the info.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: mikebw
Date: September 07, 2017 12:05PM
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freeradical
90% silver bullion coins

Can you enlighten me as to why silver bullion is preferable over gold?

People are less likely to kill you for a silver coin than a gold coin.


OK, thanks for the info.

Can you explain why would someone want a gold coin, given that it makes them more likely to be killed for it?
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: September 07, 2017 12:38PM
I've chosen air rifles for my BOB. I can make slugs/pellets from any lead source, and it will take down a deer or larger animal. Because there are no casings required I can carry far more ammo with me and I can pump it with air by hand. It does cost a bit more than a firearm, but I think the benefits out weigh the disadvantages in a shtf scenario. Keep in mind, when I say air rifle, I'm not talking about a 177 Daisy Red Rider BB gun. I'm talking about .25 or .357 caliber PCP airguns.



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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: September 07, 2017 01:21PM
I got a solar powered lamp after Hurricane Sandy; will probably add another to the emergency stash.
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Re: Please post emergency preparation tips & product recommendations
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: September 08, 2017 10:07AM
The Harbor Freight 100w solar kit includes a pair of LED lights. You have to purchase a battery as well to make it work though.Their solar kit is occasionally on sale for $150. It works much better than I expected.



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