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Looters in Florida
Posted by: DP
Date: September 11, 2017 06:45AM
News has people looting a store after Irma and what were they stealing? Food? Water? Diapers?

No. Shoes. Adidas, Nikes, Reebok...



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: billb
Date: September 11, 2017 06:54AM
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 11, 2017 07:01AM
There are always people...



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 11, 2017 07:19AM
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: testcase
Date: September 11, 2017 07:20AM
Wow, with SOOOOO many legal gun owners in Florida, I'm surprised anyone stupid enough to commit blatant felonies there. boink smiley
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 11, 2017 08:21AM
Yep, let's lead with this. FWIW.. looting happens during crises. Some people...
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: decay
Date: September 11, 2017 09:25AM
^ what's happening in that photo?



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: September 11, 2017 09:56AM
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decay
^ what's happening in that photo?

From a quick google, the "dishonest media" covering "rioting and trash can fires" in South Florida.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: norse
Date: September 11, 2017 11:08AM
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: decay
Date: September 11, 2017 11:10AM
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

for the same reason NRA is silent on most shootings.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 11, 2017 11:32AM
Not sure what the message in the OP is.

It's okay to steal food/water/diapers?

It's not okay to steal shoes?
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: norse
Date: September 11, 2017 11:43AM
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Lux Interior
Not sure what the message in the OP is.

It's okay to steal food/water/diapers?

It's not okay to steal shoes?

food/water/diapers for survival.

Expensive tennis shoes are not needed for survival.
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: DP
Date: September 11, 2017 11:52AM
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norse
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Lux Interior
Not sure what the message in the OP is.

It's okay to steal food/water/diapers?

It's not okay to steal shoes?

food/water/diapers for survival.

Expensive tennis shoes are not needed for survival.

This.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: September 11, 2017 12:16PM
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DP
News has people looting a store after Irma and what were they stealing? Food? Water? Diapers?

No. Shoes. Adidas, Nikes, Reebok...

some years ago my ebay account was hijacked to sell retired "air jordan" shoes.

most for several hundred bucks/pair.

naturally, buyers paid via western union.

fielded a lot of angry "where are my shoes?" messages at that (fortunately separate) email account.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/11/2017 12:17PM by Bill in NC.
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: decay
Date: September 11, 2017 12:18PM
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DP
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norse
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Lux Interior
Not sure what the message in the OP is.

It's okay to steal food/water/diapers?

It's not okay to steal shoes?

food/water/diapers for survival.

Expensive tennis shoes are not needed for survival.

This.

Looting is wrong no matter what, but I understand doing it for survival.

Not for greed.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 11, 2017 12:26PM
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DP
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Lux Interior
Not sure what the message in the OP is.

It's okay to steal food/water/diapers?

It's not okay to steal shoes?

food/water/diapers for survival.

Expensive tennis shoes are not needed for survival.

This.

Is it okay to steal cheap shoes if you're evacuating on foot?

Is their an upper limit on the water? Store brand okay, but Evian, not?

Luvs vs Pampers?
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: beagledave
Date: September 11, 2017 12:47PM
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

Interesting that you assumed that all of the looters were black.
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: norse
Date: September 11, 2017 01:17PM
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beagledave
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

Interesting that you assumed that all of the looters were black.

Not assuming. Have you seen the video? Go to [www.foxnews.com]. It's the headline. Look at the picture closely!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/11/2017 01:17PM by norse.
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: JoeH
Date: September 11, 2017 01:29PM
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norse
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beagledave
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

Interesting that you assumed that all of the looters were black.

Not assuming. Have you seen the video? Go to [www.foxnews.com]. It's the headline. Look at the picture closely!

And yes you are assuming that picture represents all looters. Willing to bet there are other pictures that Faux News could have posted, but chose not to.
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: raz
Date: September 11, 2017 01:32PM
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

Lord, I am so clueless. I was wondering what the Bureau of Land Management had to do with looting.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: September 11, 2017 01:33PM
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decay
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

for the same reason NRA is silent on most shootings.

oh snap smiley



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: davester
Date: September 11, 2017 01:42PM
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norse
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beagledave
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

Interesting that you assumed that all of the looters were black.

Not assuming. Have you seen the video? Go to [www.foxnews.com]. It's the headline. Look at the picture closely!

You think that fox news would show the video if white people were doing the looting? Are you on crack? Try watching some real news, not the propaganda stations.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/11/2017 01:42PM by davester.
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: September 11, 2017 02:06PM
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raz
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

Lord, I am so clueless. I was wondering what the Bureau of Land Management had to do with looting.

Me three!
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: wave rider
Date: September 11, 2017 02:11PM




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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: DP
Date: September 11, 2017 02:17PM
You think that fox news would show the video if white people were doing the looting? Are you on crack? Try watching some real news, not the propaganda stations.

I saw the same images on CNN.
BUT-it doesn't matter if the looters are black, white, red, yellow, purple, or green. I can understand-although I don't condone-it if they're are looting food and water, etc., if they have the need. Maybe some lenience for that if they're caught. If they can prove they needed it.
BUT-If they are looting for profit then they should have the book thrown at them if convicted. Anyone.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: norse
Date: September 11, 2017 02:38PM
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davester
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norse
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beagledave
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

Interesting that you assumed that all of the looters were black.

Not assuming. Have you seen the video? Go to [www.foxnews.com]. It's the headline. Look at the picture closely!

You think that fox news would show the video if white people were doing the looting? Are you on crack? Try watching some real news, not the propaganda stations.

Show me the proof then. Provide links from your "real news". Show me videos or pictures of hispanics, whites, asians looting stores!!!
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: norse
Date: September 11, 2017 02:40PM
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DP
You think that fox news would show the video if white people were doing the looting? Are you on crack? Try watching some real news, not the propaganda stations.

I saw the same images on CNN.
BUT-it doesn't matter if the looters are black, white, red, yellow, purple, or green. I can understand-although I don't condone-it if they're are looting food and water, etc., if they have the need. Maybe some lenience for that if they're caught. If they can prove they needed it.
BUT-If they are looting for profit then they should have the book thrown at them if convicted. Anyone.

AGREED!!
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: decay
Date: September 11, 2017 03:05PM
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norse
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DP
You think that fox news would show the video if white people were doing the looting? Are you on crack? Try watching some real news, not the propaganda stations.

I saw the same images on CNN.
BUT-it doesn't matter if the looters are black, white, red, yellow, purple, or green. I can understand-although I don't condone-it if they're are looting food and water, etc., if they have the need. Maybe some lenience for that if they're caught. If they can prove they needed it.
BUT-If they are looting for profit then they should have the book thrown at them if convicted. Anyone.

AGREED!!

Thirded.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 11, 2017 03:06PM
[www.salon.com]
(Thanks to pdq for the link.)

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davester
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norse
Why isn't the BLM condemning the looters?

Interesting that you assumed that all of the looters were black.

Not assuming. Have you seen the video? Go to [www.foxnews.com]. It's the headline. Look at the picture closely!

You think that fox news would show the video if white people were doing the looting? Are you on crack? Try watching some real news, not the propaganda stations.

Show me the proof then. Provide links from your "real news". Show me videos or pictures of hispanics, whites, asians looting stores!!!



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: davester
Date: September 11, 2017 03:43PM
Taking supplies needed for survival from a store during a catastrophe is not "looting". Looting is what people do when they are using the catastrophe as cover for a crime spree and self-enrichment.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: max
Date: September 11, 2017 03:45PM
having gone through several disasters over the years, quite a few looting episodes, I find this to quite relevant to this discussion...
[www.nytimes.com]
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: decay
Date: September 11, 2017 03:50PM
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max
having gone through several disasters over the years, quite a few looting episodes, I find this to quite relevant to this discussion...
[www.nytimes.com]

That's a pretty good article, thanks.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: decay
Date: September 11, 2017 03:53PM
Another interesting blog post on the subject:

[www.survivalbased.com]



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Mr645
Date: September 11, 2017 04:21PM
Not looters, they are undocumented shoppers.

Actually police are putting in crazy efforts to track these people down and arresting them. 26 caught so far. Chief of police in Fort Lauderdale went on TV to say that they will leave no stone unturned to track down these criminals and they all will be spending time in jail.
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: September 11, 2017 04:32PM
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Not looters, they are undocumented shoppers.

Actually police are putting in crazy efforts to track these people down and arresting them. 26 caught so far. Chief of police in Fort Lauderdale went on TV to say that they will leave no stone unturned to track down these criminals and they all will be spending time in jail.

Until the camera crews leave... then the DA's office will decline to prosecute any of them and kick them loose.
Meanwhile the shop-owners of the looted shops will get citations and fines for having broken windows and glass laying around.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: decay
Date: September 11, 2017 04:36PM
We probably come across as smug and out of touch with the reality of being in such a situation.

We also, as a group here, most likely had an upbringing that taught us right from wrong, or we learned it along the way.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Speedy
Date: September 11, 2017 04:38PM
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We probably come across as smug and out of touch with the reality of being in such a situation.

We also, as a group here, most likely had an upbringing that taught us right from wrong, or we learned it along the way.

All your learning goes by the wayside when your children have nothing to drink and little food as you watch your home float away.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: PeterW
Date: September 11, 2017 05:21PM
And it’s well known that T-Mobile and Foot Locker stores are just chock full of food and drink. Puleeze.
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: $tevie
Date: September 11, 2017 09:06PM
There's always some people who try to take advantage of other people's misfortunes. If you take the total number of looters and divide it by the amount of people who were impacted by the hurricanes, I think you will find that the looters are almost not worth mentioning in terms of what was happening down there.



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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: davester
Date: September 11, 2017 11:35PM
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$tevie
There's always some people who try to take advantage of other people's misfortunes. If you take the total number of looters and divide it by the amount of people who were impacted by the hurricanes, I think you will find that the looters are almost not worth mentioning in terms of what was happening down there.

...but they are so good for Fox News ratings!



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Looters in Florida
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 12, 2017 06:58AM
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$tevie
There's always some people who try to take advantage of other people's misfortunes. If you take the total number of looters and divide it by the amount of people who were impacted by the hurricanes, I think you will find that the looters are almost not worth mentioning in terms of what was happening down there.

...but they are so good for Fox News ratings!

Yes.

That doesn't get people outraged.

I'll let others pass moral judgement on people who have survived a natural disaster while I sit in my nice, dry, climate controlled office.
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