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Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: November 13, 2017 09:39AM
[www.wired.com]
On Friday, Vietnamese security firm Bkav released a blog post and video showing that—by all appearances—they'd cracked Face ID with a composite mask of 3-D-printed plastic, silicone, makeup, and simple paper cutouts, which in combination tricked an iPhone X into unlocking.

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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: freeradical
Date: November 13, 2017 10:54AM
This is kind of funny actually.

AAPL is getting others to do (and pay for) the work off finding any flaws.
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: November 13, 2017 11:19AM
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freeradical
This is kind of funny actually.

Yeah, that is funny. I guess the Vietnamese firm did this more competently than she did:

[www.youtube.com]
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: November 13, 2017 11:59AM
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freeradical
This is kind of funny actually.

AAPL is getting others to do (and pay for) the work off finding any flaws.

Better they had done so before releasing the new technology into the wild.



It is what it is.
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: jonny
Date: November 13, 2017 12:49PM
If you have a casting of someone's face, how is that any different from having a casting of their fingerprint?
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: freeradical
Date: November 13, 2017 01:11PM
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I assume your handprint will open this door whether you are conscious or not.

- Data
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: November 13, 2017 01:34PM
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jonny
If you have a casting of someone's face, how is that any different from having a casting of their fingerprint?
Ayup.

I recall a group that built a fingerprint fake from a photo.
[www.engadget.com]
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: November 13, 2017 03:47PM
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freeradical
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I assume your handprint will open this door whether you are conscious or not.

- Data





It is what it is.
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: Onamuji
Date: November 13, 2017 07:14PM
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jonny
If you have a casting of someone's face, how is that any different from having a casting of their fingerprint?

Thing is, you can construct a 3D image of someone's face from 2D images pretty easily these days. (Easier with several images than with one.) Then 3D print the eyes and some prominences and use a little IR-blocking makeup and you've got a fake face suitable for law enforcement to get in.



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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: jonny
Date: November 13, 2017 07:42PM
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Onamuji
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jonny
If you have a casting of someone's face, how is that any different from having a casting of their fingerprint?

Thing is, you can construct a 3D image of someone's face from 2D images pretty easily these days. (Easier with several images than with one.) Then 3D print the eyes and some prominences and use a little IR-blocking makeup and you've got a fake face suitable for law enforcement to get in.

Interesting. Scary.
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: November 13, 2017 08:00PM
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Onamuji
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jonny
If you have a casting of someone's face, how is that any different from having a casting of their fingerprint?

Thing is, you can construct a 3D image of someone's face from 2D images pretty easily these days. (Easier with several images than with one.) Then 3D print the eyes and some prominences and use a little IR-blocking makeup and you've got a fake face suitable for law enforcement to get in.

I hope someone tries that.

By the way, our Vietnamese friends had to spend, "…$150 in materials [and] required access to a detailed scan of the person’s facial features and many hours of work by artists."

In the meantime, Samsung Galaxy devices can be unlocked with an image of your face on a display…sheesh…

[techcrunch.com]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2017 08:09PM by Article Accelerator.
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: pdq
Date: November 14, 2017 08:40AM
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Onamuji
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jonny
If you have a casting of someone's face, how is that any different from having a casting of their fingerprint?

Thing is, you can construct a 3D image of someone's face from 2D images pretty easily these days. (Easier with several images than with one.) Then 3D print the eyes and some prominences and use a little IR-blocking makeup and you've got a fake face suitable for law enforcement to get in.

Well, sure, but will that kind of 3d reconstruction be accurate enough for the face ID? I’m skeptical.
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Re: Mission iMpossible ! Hacking Face Recognition with a mask... yup.
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: November 15, 2017 02:31PM
More on the possibly bullsh!t mask hack:

[macdailynews.com]
[techcrunch.com]

“If you’re concerned that someone might want into your devices badly enough that they’d execute such an involved plan to steal your facial biometrics, well, you’ve probably got a lot of other things to worry about as well,” Hatmaker writes. “Prior to the Bkav video, Wired worked with Cloudflare to see if Face ID could be hacked through masks that appear far more sophisticated than the ones the Bkav hack depicts. Remarkably, in spite of their fairly elaborate efforts — including ‘details like eyeholes designed to allow real eye movement’ and ‘thousands of eyebrow hairs inserted into the mask intended to look more like real hair’ — Wired and Cloudflare didn’t succeed.”
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