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High Sierra
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: November 16, 2017 10:27AM
What's the consensus on High Sierra? I saw that it is available for installation. I haven't watched the keynote yet where it was announced and I probably won't. They're just painful to watch without Steve on stage. They used to be entertaining...not so much anymore.



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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: maco
Date: November 16, 2017 10:35AM
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ztirffritz
What's the consensus on High Sierra? I saw that it is available for installation. I haven't watched the keynote yet where it was announced and I probably won't. They're just painful to watch without Steve on stage. They used to be entertaining...not so much anymore.

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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: WHiiP
Date: November 16, 2017 10:37AM
I see NO reason to use it, at least yet.

I have a fusion drive, so no benefit from the new File System.

Nothing I can't live without. I'm waiting, but not concerned!



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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: GuyGene
Date: November 16, 2017 11:01AM
I'm waiting too, first time for me! I usually install new stuff immediately, no problems doing it that way so far, but I'm waiting a bit this time.



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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: November 16, 2017 11:35AM
No issues here.
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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: RoadToad
Date: November 16, 2017 12:24PM
No issues with SSD here.




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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: particleman
Date: November 16, 2017 01:35PM
I updated to High Sierra despite the fact it does not work fusion drives. I wanted the security updates including the one addressing the KRACK wi-fi hack. I have had no issues. I did wait for the 10.13.1 release though.
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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: November 16, 2017 02:04PM
.....only if you want to be living the High Life......



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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: November 16, 2017 02:09PM
Not installing it. It's incredibly arrogant and shabby of Apple not to address the KRACK issue in anything except High Sierra. Fortunately, I can just shut off wifi on my main systems.



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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: FormerlySaleenl
Date: November 16, 2017 05:22PM
My husband, Mike, has been doing a ton of High Sierra testing and has written several articles about it that reference CCC, but there is a ton of info in there for non-CCC users, too.

This article gives a lot of great basic info about filesystems and High Sierra: Everything you need to know about Carbon Copy Cloner and APFS -
[bombich.com]

We've run a number of tests of HFS+ vs APFS and published the results, as well as any High Sierra issues we've identified through customer tickets: High Sierra Testing and Known Issues -
[bombich.com]

Last, I'm still using Sierra but Mike actually upgraded to HS almost a month ago. He is not an early adopter, at all, so this was a huge surprise. He wrote a blog post about it: Evaluating the High Sierra Upgrade -
[bombich.com]

Hope this helps!
Sarah
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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: hal
Date: November 16, 2017 05:34PM
Wow! thanks sarah. I've been meaning to do some deep research - now I don't have to!
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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: space-time
Date: November 16, 2017 05:38PM
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FormerlySaleenl
My husband, Mike, has been doing a ton of High Sierra testing and has written several articles about it that reference CCC, but there is a ton of info in there for non-CCC users, too.

This article gives a lot of great basic info about filesystems and High Sierra: Everything you need to know about Carbon Copy Cloner and APFS -
[bombich.com]

We've run a number of tests of HFS+ vs APFS and published the results, as well as any High Sierra issues we've identified through customer tickets: High Sierra Testing and Known Issues -
[bombich.com]

Last, I'm still using Sierra but Mike actually upgraded to HS almost a month ago. He is not an early adopter, at all, so this was a huge surprise. He wrote a blog post about it: Evaluating the High Sierra Upgrade -
[bombich.com]

Hope this helps!
Sarah


very nice, thank you.

But I noticed he says " You can't opt-out of the transition to APFS." and link to an Apple article. Someone posted a way to prevent the APFS conversion, I think it was posted yesterday or two days ago.
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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: Onamuji
Date: November 16, 2017 06:54PM
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ka jowct
Not installing it. It's incredibly arrogant and shabby of Apple not to address the KRACK issue in anything except High Sierra. Fortunately, I can just shut off wifi on my main systems.

Apple patched it in El Cap and Sierra.

[appleinsider.com]



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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: November 16, 2017 06:56PM
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ka jowct
Not installing it. It's incredibly arrogant and shabby of Apple not to address the KRACK issue in anything except High Sierra. Fortunately, I can just shut off wifi on my main systems.

This was fixed for Sierra and El Capitan over 2 weeks ago. Update your Macs and allow them to party on WiFi like it's 1999.

[support.apple.com]
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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: November 16, 2017 08:20PM
I’m using Mavericks 90% of the time, Yosemite occasionally, El cap not at all, and Sierra once in a while. I also still use Snow Leopard occasionally. However, I don’t need to use wifi with my Mac Pro most of the time, if ever.
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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: Rolando
Date: November 16, 2017 09:06PM
Upgraded a month after announcement. Stable, no issues I know of. Mid 2012 MBP with a Samsung EVO SSD



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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: November 16, 2017 09:10PM
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ka jowct
Not installing it. It's incredibly arrogant and shabby of Apple not to address the KRACK issue in anything except High Sierra. Fortunately, I can just shut off wifi on my main systems.

Apple sucks.

There, I said it.



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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: November 16, 2017 09:12PM
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particleman
I updated to High Sierra despite the fact it does not work fusion drives. I wanted the security updates including the one addressing the KRACK wi-fi hack. I have had no issues. I did wait for the 10.13.1 release though.

It absolutely works with Fusion drives, as evidencd by the fact that you were able to install it.



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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: November 17, 2017 03:53PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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ka jowct
Not installing it. It's incredibly arrogant and shabby of Apple not to address the KRACK issue in anything except High Sierra. Fortunately, I can just shut off wifi on my main systems.

Apple sucks.

There, I said it.

Yeah, but why do they suck?
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Re: High Sierra
Posted by: sekker
Date: November 17, 2017 11:27PM
I’m waiting. Found a major software incompatibility.

It also breaks some features like target disk mode.
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