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Paging VOLT drivers: how is your driving pattern?
Posted by: space-time
Date: December 06, 2017 08:19PM
Speedy, graylocks, ztirffritz, and hopefully a few others.

1) What model do you have: Gen 1 (35 mile EV range) or Gen 2 (53 mile)?

2) Where do you charge: at home, at work? Level 1 (120V) or Level 2 (240V)? if Level 1, 8 A or 12?

3) How long is your commute?

4) How often do you fill or deplete the battery?

5) Do you drive in D or L gear?

Here are my answers:

1) Gen 1 (35 mile EV range), 2014 (10,400 miles)

2) I charge at work, 120V/12A. I rarely charge at home every other weekend for a half day or so.

3) 4.5 miles each way (18 miles total per day)

4) rarely full or empty. I commute 2x per day (I go home for lunch). It seems the amount of electricity I manage to charge at work seems to be enough for the commute and small amounts of errands: grocery, pick up kid from school, etc. I drove 500 miles since last full charge. today I skipped lunch, so car charged for one more hour than usual, and then I didn't drive home for lunch, so battery was full around 4 PM.

5) I drove most of the time in D and the range indicated seemed to match exactly the miles on odometer. For example if odometer said 10,000 and range said 30 miles, by the time I was down to 10 miles, the odometer said 10,020. Now for the past week I started driving in L and I seem to get about 10% more miles for the same charge. For the example above, the odometer would say 10,022. But this is empirical observation, I need to take better notes. Also with weather getting colder, range will probably drop faster when driving.
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Re: Paging VOLT drivers: how is your driving pattern?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: December 06, 2017 10:58PM
1) What model do you have: Gen 1 (35 mile EV range) or Gen 2 (53 mile)?

2013 Gen 1. EV ranges 38-42. sometimes a bit higher in warmer weather. a little lower when it's colder but hey, cold is relative here in GA.

2) Where do you charge: at home, at work? Level 1 (120V) or Level 2 (240V)? if Level 1, 8 A or 12?

Level 1 at home. 12A. i pine for L2 but i don't really need it and can't justify the expenditure.

3) How long is your commute?

10 miles each way. (which is why i'm fine w/o an L2 charger.

4) How often do you fill or deplete the battery?

maybe once or twice a month. takes running an errand into Atlanta proper or going to costco.

5) Do you drive in D or L gear?

L. always.



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Re: Paging VOLT drivers: how is your driving pattern?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 06, 2017 11:10PM
1) What model do you have:
Gen 1 (35 mile EV range) 2013 model, 28 miles in the winter, 45+ in the summer.

2) Where do you charge:
At home, Level 2 (240V), love it, worth every penny of the $625 we paid for the EVSE (electric vehicle supply equipment). My wife can come home after work, plug in and an hour later it has enough charge to take us all over town.

My wife's work (small private university) just yesterday sent out a notice about their new charging spaces at work. Five 110v outlets in reserved spots. $300/year fee. See below. We passed for a number of reasons including her short commute so the fee is far, far more than we pay for electricity at home, and also that my wife has or will go to work 45 days total this entire fiscal year which is July 1 to June 30 (sabbatical this spring, and next spring a semester abroad trip so next year will be the same number of commuting days but we still wouldn't pay the exorbitant fee even if she was working all year on campus). But for the driver who commutes 60 miles round-trip five days a week all year around like the driver below, $300 is less than a couple of bucks a day and the parking spot is closer to the offices, etc. than almost any other on campus which is nice on those -30F days.

3) How long is your commute?
20 miles round-trip

4) How often do you fill or deplete the battery?
Two or three times a month and maybe with five to ten miles of miles running on gas before we get home.

We last bought gas on September 30. We will be buying gas again, and often, around the middle of this month because we are taking the Volt on a long trip (Mexico City, Florida).

My VW Passat Diesel wagon generally leaves the garage only when my wife is using the Volt. The VW was filled six times this year because we do use it for a few long trips in the summer, and it has another 550 miles to go on fill number 6. The Volt may have been filled a similar number of times.

5) Do you drive in D or L gear?
Almost always L because the motor turns at the same RPM as D anyway but L gives you much more regen. An exception is if we have many miles of light traffic freeway driving where regen is not a big deal. Also, I always drive in 'Sport' mode so the vehicles I leave behind at lights can read the 'Volt' across the back as I leave them in my electrons...

Note: You may want to check your ERDTT setting. Ours got reset over the summer to 35F from 15F without any input by me, thus the engine was running unnecessarily when we didn't need or want it to. ERDTT is 'engine running due to {outside] temperature'. Likely your 2014 is the same as our 2013 in this respect. To check the setting:
On the center display:
1) Press the Vehicle Settings menu
2) Select Climate and Air Quality
3) Select Engine Assisted Heating
4) Select the temperature level
5) Press Back to return to the previous menu

The engine will run every morning this coming week because the low is going to be below 15F (6F tomorrow morning - with 20 MPH winds.) But the afternoon return commute will be above 15F every day (17F was today's high) so that part of the commute will be all battery. There are devices to keep the engine shut off at even lower temps. Search for ERDTT on eBay.

>>>>

Work notice sent yesterday:

Physical Plant
ELECTRIC CAR / USE OF ELECTRICAL OUTLET PROTOCOL

1. Purpose:
The purpose of this policy is to outline protocols for usage of indoor or outdoor electric outlets for vehicles on campus.

2. Policy:
A. The plugging in of a vehicle to indoor or outdoor outlets on the Campus is not allowed unless approved by Physical Plant.
1. Vehicles found in violation will have the electrical cord confiscated and subject to ticketing.
B. Physical Plant will provide an outdoor electrical outlet for plug in/docking station for vehicles (ie, electric, diesel).
1. The outlet location will be at the discretion of Physical Plant.
2. The outlet parking location will have reserved signage posted for the registered vehicle.
a. The parking location will be reserved, Mon-Fri, 7am-5pm.
3. The vehicle needs to utilize the outlet.
4. Unauthorized vehicles utilizing this space and/or outlet will be ticketed and/or towed.
C. Only employees will be considered for usage of the electrical outlet.
D. Employee must submit a request via email to Physical Plant for use of an assigned outlet.
1. Requests will be approved as they are received until all the provided outlets have been filled.
2. Approved vehicles will have priority during each fiscal renewal.
E. The costs associated to the outlet and parking space will be billed once per fiscal year at $300.00.
F. The vehicle must display the appropriate special use permit upon being approved, and appropriate employee permit.
G. The vehicle must be moved when the parking area is closed for maintenance/snow removal. The move will be for a temporary amount of time and an alternate location to plug in will not be provided.
H. The request for use of an assigned outlet must be renewed every fiscal year.

This is being done on a trial basis and changes may occur upon need.



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My one comment about this meager effort by the university is that this outlet set up is ideal for the Volt which can fully recharge in eight hours on 110v. but not for the Bolt, Leaf, Tesla, etc. There are a number of commuters who drive almost 200 miles round-trip from Minneapolis-St. Paul. The 110v may be enough to top off a Bolt (fully charged range in winter: 185 miles) so that it can make that trip in the dead of winter but only barely. They really need some 220v supplies (the university would likely need to provide the EVSE.)



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Re: Paging VOLT drivers: how is your driving pattern?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: December 07, 2017 12:07AM
1) What model do you have: Gen 1 (35 mile EV range) or Gen 2 (53 mile)?
Gen 1

2) Where do you charge: at home, at work? Level 1 (120V) or Level 2 (240V)? if Level 1, 8 A or 12?
Home, L1 @12A

3) How long is your commute?
4miles round trip, but I usually travel 15-20 daily with various chores.

4) How often do you fill or deplete the battery?
I charge every night, rarely deplete the battery completely.

5) Do you drive in D or L gear?
Mostly in D but I use L on hills or in stop n go traffic.



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