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Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: lost in space
Date: January 07, 2018 11:57PM
Not far from Yakima, here in WA state, there's a fissure forming above a quarry that has geologists and residents fearing a landslide.

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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 08, 2018 12:20AM
Yikes. Oso is still a fresh wound.
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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 08, 2018 08:52AM
I'm surprised they haven't closed the highway. When that goes, there's no way they'll get to the hurried cars.



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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 08, 2018 09:34AM
That crack has been there for quite a long time. We drive by it frequently. It has been growing though. Currently, they're expecting the bulk of it to go into the rock quarry nearby that is likely the cause of the crack.








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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: January 08, 2018 09:37AM



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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: January 08, 2018 11:30AM
I keep wondering if a well placed CAT D11 (or three) in the quarry and operated remotely could defuse a bigger slide across the highway.


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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: January 08, 2018 12:38PM
Holy crap!
I remember seeing that movie on a "Saturday afternoon bad sci-fi movie" on TV!

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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: lost in space
Date: January 08, 2018 01:35PM
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That crack has been there for quite a long time. We drive by it frequently. It has been growing though. Currently, they're expecting the bulk of it to go into the rock quarry nearby that is likely the cause of the crack.

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I hoped you might chime in here. Of course, there's a variety of opinions on what will happen.

Our daughter, a Geology student at Western Wa U, says some of her profs think it's going to mostly move west, possibly damming up the Yakima River. If it moves slowly, it would minimize the loss of life, but it could still be problematic for areas upriver.

Can you let us know if you see anything in your travels past it.


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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 08, 2018 01:38PM
If it damns up the Yakima River I'll be posting from a higher ground up in the mountains, as Union Gap and Yakima will become known as the Yakima Reservoir.


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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 08, 2018 01:39PM
It's a good thing I'm not on this project. I'd close off the road, evacuate people, then lay some explosives in the fissure and see if it moves. I'd rather do that then get in a lot of theoretical debates, wait too long, then have people die.



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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 08, 2018 02:15PM
Most of Washington won't care at all until they start getting beer without hops...and all of their apples, pears, and well, just about ALL produce has to be shipped from CA because all of it is underwater in Yakima.


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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: January 08, 2018 03:47PM

The police want to talk to Gary Puckett about this and other matters.
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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 08, 2018 04:32PM
Union Gap WA is where they got the name.

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"Singer Gary Puckett (born October 17, 1942, Hibbing, Minnesota) grew up in Yakima, Washington – close to Union Gap .."

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The police want to talk to Gary Puckett about this and other matters.


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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 08, 2018 05:57PM
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It's a good thing I'm not on this project. I'd close off the road, evacuate people, then lay some explosives in the fissure and see if it moves. I'd rather do that then get in a lot of theoretical debates, wait too long, then have people die.

Sounds like a plan. You could sell tickets.


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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 08, 2018 07:12PM
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It's a good thing I'm not on this project. I'd close off the road, evacuate people, then lay some explosives in the fissure and see if it moves. I'd rather do that then get in a lot of theoretical debates, wait too long, then have people die.

They've already issued level 3 evacuation notices. That means people have been notified that their lives are in imminent danger if they don't relocate. Many have opted to gamble with their lives. They can't be forcibly removed from their homes. Though, I wish they could be. If When they're caught in the inevitable landslide, first responders will be required to put their lives at risk to try to rescue the idiots.


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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 08, 2018 07:13PM
WSDOT has regular updates. They basically say "we're watching and waiting."

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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: January 08, 2018 07:52PM
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It's a good thing I'm not on this project. I'd close off the road, evacuate people, then lay some explosives in the fissure and see if it moves. I'd rather do that then get in a lot of theoretical debates, wait too long, then have people die.

They've already issued level 3 evacuation notices. That means people have been notified that their lives are in imminent danger if they don't relocate. Many have opted to gamble with their lives. They can't be forcibly removed from their homes. Though, I wish they could be. If When they're caught in the inevitable landslide, first responders will be required to put their lives at risk to try to rescue the idiots.

So where do they go live and for how long? I know many have relocated to motels. That's an incredible burden with no end in site. Can't sell. Can't collect insurance because the property hasn't been destroyed yet.



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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 08, 2018 10:24PM
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It's a good thing I'm not on this project. I'd close off the road, evacuate people, then lay some explosives in the fissure and see if it moves. I'd rather do that then get in a lot of theoretical debates, wait too long, then have people die.

I agree completely.
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Re: Landslide threat near Union Gap, WA
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 09, 2018 07:51AM
The property is rented. The owners may, or may not own the trailer on it. The hotels are being provided at no cost for now by the red cross.

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It's a good thing I'm not on this project. I'd close off the road, evacuate people, then lay some explosives in the fissure and see if it moves. I'd rather do that then get in a lot of theoretical debates, wait too long, then have people die.

They've already issued level 3 evacuation notices. That means people have been notified that their lives are in imminent danger if they don't relocate. Many have opted to gamble with their lives. They can't be forcibly removed from their homes. Though, I wish they could be. If When they're caught in the inevitable landslide, first responders will be required to put their lives at risk to try to rescue the idiots.

So where do they go live and for how long? I know many have relocated to motels. That's an incredible burden with no end in site. Can't sell. Can't collect insurance because the property hasn't been destroyed yet.


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