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No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: gabester
Date: January 08, 2018 05:45AM
You can see it here - I did not catch it at the 8PM EST real time last night but remembered to check later...

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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: Onamuji
Date: January 08, 2018 06:30AM
Shhh!

It's a secret!



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: WHiiP
Date: January 08, 2018 06:37AM
Old hat, now!



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 08, 2018 07:29AM
It went up, it came down - successfully



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 08, 2018 08:47AM
The danger is SpaceX makes this look boring.
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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: jdc
Date: January 08, 2018 09:41AM
Thought we were waiting for the falcon heavy.



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: January 08, 2018 10:17AM
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Thought we were waiting for the falcon heavy.

We are...
But the ZUMA launch finally got resheduled and launched before the Falcon Heavy was ready.

Scuttlebut is that SpaceX is waiting for the end of January to mid February, to get the maximum advantage of the Earths inclination relative to the plane of the ecliptic to squeeze a little more advantage for the trans-Mars orbit. It's only a couple meters per second, but everything helps!

It's possible that the GovSat1 mission may fly on Falcon 9 from Pad 40 before Falcon Heavy flies from Pad 39A.



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 08, 2018 10:19AM
What launch? There was no launch. It was a weather balloon. It's trajectory was altered by heat from the moon light reflecting off of swamp gas. Nothing to see here. Move along.



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: January 08, 2018 10:21AM
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What launch? There was no launch. It was a weather balloon. It's trajectory was altered by heat from the moon light reflecting off of swamp gas. Nothing to see here. Move along.

It was just a Northrup Grumman "test payload"... and the NSA would like to talk to anyone who says anything different!



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: rz
Date: January 08, 2018 01:18PM
We watched it last night. It was VERY visible in Orlando (~40+ miles away)... much more so than the old space shuttle launches. Coolest part was seeing the ignition on the booster as it prepared to head back down to land.
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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: vision63
Date: January 08, 2018 02:03PM
That was a cool video
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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: billb
Date: January 08, 2018 02:22PM
apparently not



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 08, 2018 02:29PM
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It went up, it came down - successfully

Well, by those criteria, most are successful.
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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 08, 2018 03:27PM
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Lux Interior
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Ombligo
It went up, it came down - successfully

Well, by those criteria, most are successful.

I disagree. Elon agrees with my disagreement.
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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 08, 2018 07:23PM
There are now reports that the satellite was lost. No definitive word on the cause.



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: January 08, 2018 07:33PM
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There are now reports that the satellite was lost. No definitive word on the cause.

Given the secrecy around this payload, I think “they” may say that either way... They being whatever unnamed agency owns the Northrup-Grumman “ZUMA”.



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 08, 2018 09:52PM
'The WSJ reports, and we’ve confirmed separately, that the payload is thought to have fallen back through the Earth’s atmosphere after reaching space, because of the failure to separate. The failure is one that can happen when cargo doesn’t properly detach as planned, since the second stage is designed to fall back to Earth and burn up in re-entry.'

From TechCrunch

Could be bad news for SpaceX
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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: January 08, 2018 10:16PM
I’m reading some things that conflict with that on some space forums.
It seems that enthusiasts with telescopes saw the payload separate from the second stage, and the stage reenter. It reached orbit and was designated object USA 280, 2018-001A. Whether it was a living satellite, or dead corpse, is unknown.

Another tidbit is that ALL payload processing was done by Northrup-Grumman, up to sealing the Fairing... this is unheard of, at least for SpaceX.

Third and most interesting tidbit, to me, is that launch prep and payload processing does NOT seem to be stopping for the GovSat launch in a couple weeks, which typically it would for any failure investigation. Now, it could easily be that things have just not caught up yet.

It’ll be interesting... if we ever get any real information.



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Re: No mention of the successful Spacex Falcon 9 Zuma launch and land?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 09, 2018 05:56PM
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Whether it was a living satellite, or dead corpse, is unknown.

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