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Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: DP
Date: March 09, 2018 08:12AM
I have a prescription for hydrocodone for my back issues and have had it for years. I have vertebrae with no disc, some with some disc, bone spurs and arthritis in my lower back. I do stretching and other exercises and coincidently have an appointment with a back specialist next week to see if it's something that can be fixed so I can get off the hydrocodone as I don't want to take this stuff forever.

I understand the issues with opioids, the dependency problems, and just about any other matter concerning them. My primary care doctor and I have discussed the matter completely, and she is the type to not want to prescribe them unless absolutely necessary, but she does think I warrant it. For example, I was taking four OTC ibuprofens at a time to reduce the pain I have to manageable and that was taking four every few hours. The thing about hydrocodone is that it kills the pain without making me stupid. Can I make myself stupid? Of course, but I limit myself to two a day, maybe a third when I have done a lot of physical labor. All in all, a prescription of 100 pills lasts me ~45 days and if I call to get a refill, my doctor won't do it if it's a shorter time period than that. The pharmacy has their restrictions too as the opioid "crisis" has health care professionals all jumping thru hoops.

Which brings me to yesterday at my CVS where I have been getting my two scrips filled for years. I know the pharmacists there, and when they see me walking in, they grab mine (and my wife's too) prescriptions and have them ready.

It was a refill for the hydrocodone and I left the store, got home, got it out of the bag, and noticed right away that, after years of dealing with this, the bottle wasn't full. It was so obvious that I dumped out the pills and counted them.

82 pills. The order is for 100. Recounted them. 82...

I went back to CVS and we talked about it but you already know what happened. They said how sorry they were, but once I left the store, they were absolved of any responsibility. They checked the record of the filling of the prescription and said their inventory matches, and they couldn't give me the difference. Everyone was polite and they got the pharmacy supervisor and we talked but basically they were sorry but they can't do anything about it...

There are a lot of scenarios here. Could I have left the store, ran to the corner, sold 18 pills to guy waiting for me, then ran right back to the CVS? Of course. But, as I said, I've been going to the store for years and they know me, and I them. My RX was filled by a new guy there, whom I don't know, which, on the surface, would be the place to start. But he was contacted and again, their inventory is correct, so he filled the order correctly, they say. Also, I'm sure there are protections against someone being able to get into the computer to change inventories. But...

And one other issue: Regardless of whether it's an opioid or a twelve pack of Pepsi and finding only 11cans inside, I didn't get what I paid for.

I am going to call my doctor today to discuss the issue and I will tell her I'll try to make 82 pills work. I know it sounds like I NEED MY DRUGS! and I'm under the spell of opioids. Well, there is no question that it works and again, I will not be on this stuff forever. I know the dangers if abused.

At this point, I have the main store supervisor to call and I'm sure I'll get the same response. I'll call my doctor because I think she needs to be aware of the situation. And I will have to get my prescriptions from a different pharmacy now. I am not a liar-the pharmacy shorted me on a painkiller that is on the front page of the news these days and the government's actions make providers shell-shocked and will not do anything they think may cause them serious problems. However, my local CVS has lost my trust.

But all I know is that the order is for 100 pills and I got 82. There's a huge disconnect here. It could've been an honest mistake but they say no. There's really only one other answer unless anyone here can offer another...





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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: bik
Date: March 09, 2018 08:27AM
Sorry to hear it.

Of course their inventory is correct. It's just that one of their employees ended up with some of your pills in their pocket. Sounds like the new pharmacy guy is the one who ran to the corner with 18 pills to sell.

I hope they have him on a pretty close watch so they can get him out of there if he is doing something.

I wish you well on rationing for the next few weeks. That stinks.

Maybe you want to mmix in a few days of only 1 pill with lots of ibuprofen early in the run so you can have some toward the end if you need them.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: billb
Date: March 09, 2018 08:29AM
I think All you can do is file a complaint so there is a written record somewhere someplace.
I would make copies labelled CC and send one to the local store and HQ.

If someone there has an opioid problem or is making a few extra bucks on the side or covering up a theft numerous complaints will eventually get noticed.

Won't fix your slide but maybe eventually expose someone's problem before it gets worse.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: March 09, 2018 08:36AM
POLICE REPORT.
Seriously. The way the laws are overwritten now you can get in real trouble.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 09, 2018 08:43AM
What they said above. Social media works well for getting large companies like CVS' attention, especially when your tweet or FB post to their page includes the store number or other identifying info such as address. If it doesn't make them pay attention it'll still be a record of the incident.

Definitely tell your doctor and/or physicians' group that you no longer consider the local CVS trustworthy.

You've done all you can do, and the truth will eventually come out. Nobody steals "just a few" of these pills temporarily. The fact that you spoke out and are willing to go to another pharmacy speaks volumes about your truthfulness. Obviously, a customer who deals on the side would stay with the same pharmacy as long as possible.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: mikebw
Date: March 09, 2018 08:46AM
Yeah, the guy who filled it must have "accidentally" let a few fall into his own pocket. Do they not have cameras in the pharmacy area?
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: davemchine
Date: March 09, 2018 08:48AM
I had a prescription for hydrocodone after my back surgeries. Since you won't be replacing those 18 pills you will have some times when you have to do without which is going to be painful. Consider snapping some of the pills in half and taking half doses. It won't be as effective but it will help you cover the missing pills. Also, if you decide to take half doses plan to be fairly inactive during that time and that will also help. Good luck, I've been there and I know exactly how it feels.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: DP
Date: March 09, 2018 08:49AM
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cbelt3
POLICE REPORT.
Seriously. The way the laws are overwritten now you can get in real trouble.

I believe you've posted about painkiller issues your wife has had, yes? You know the restrictions and roadblocks the government has thrown up in it's efforts to combat the opioid issue. But it's mostly hurt the people who benefit from opioids rather than stopping the abuse problem. And there are people who are in far more pain than I, so I feel like it's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.

I have a call in to the store supervisor and my doctor. I probably can't do this, but I thought I would return the prescription and have my doc write a new one at a different pharmacy. Honestly, I never thought of a police report. I guess I'd rather solve this without getting police involved but you're right-this could be a crime...





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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Janit
Date: March 09, 2018 08:59AM
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billb
I think All you can do is file a complaint so there is a written record somewhere someplace.
I would make copies labelled CC and send one to the local store and HQ.

If someone there has an opioid problem or is making a few extra bucks on the side or covering up a theft numerous complaints will eventually get noticed.

Won't fix your slide but maybe eventually expose someone's problem before it gets worse.

Of course someone in the store stole the pills out of the bottle. Perhaps you should consider reporting the theft to the police, or at least tell management that you plan to report the theft to the police.

Not sure about the pros and cons of reporting to police -- members of some demographics might hesitate for fear of getting arrested themselves -- which is an additional reason for reporting if you think it is safe for you to do so. Nevertheless, reporting to the police would support your own story and perhaps protect you from being accused of selling them yourself on the side.

In any case, tell CVS corporate that you will be moving all of your prescriptions out of CVS entirely, and will only consider coming back if the person responsible is brought to justice.

Of course a report to the local news is another possibility, but that all depends on how much trouble you are willing to make.

edit:

Remembering now the experiences of cbelt's better half -- since you have already notified the store and the doctor, you would protect yourself best by filing a police report too.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: lost in space
Date: March 09, 2018 09:02AM
That's awful. I use hydrocodone too, have for years. I don't like the hoops we have to jump through because some people can't control their consumption of ill-begotten opiooids for recreation, though I can understand the difficulty in getting off some painkillers. I had a rough time with percocet after a major bone surgery, getting the shakes two days after the last dose after tapering down to 1/10 the prescribed dose. Acuipuncture was a huge help with that. Word of acupuncture's effectiveness in withdrawal needs to get out into mainstream medicine.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: March 09, 2018 09:03AM
That pharmacy needs to keep an eye on the new guy. Do they really want customers to stand at the counter and count every pill in the bottle they were just handed, in front of the pharmacy staff? Tell the pharmacy that you will now have to insist on a count with you watching before you take anything out of their sight.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: billb
Date: March 09, 2018 09:05AM
Quote
Janit
Quote
billb
I think All you can do is file a complaint so there is a written record somewhere someplace.
I would make copies labelled CC and send one to the local store and HQ.

If someone there has an opioid problem or is making a few extra bucks on the side or covering up a theft numerous complaints will eventually get noticed.

Won't fix your slide but maybe eventually expose someone's problem before it gets worse.

Of course someone in the store stole the pills out of the bottle. Perhaps you should consider reporting the theft to the police, or at least tell management that you plan to report the theft to the police.

Not sure about the pros and cons of reporting to police -- members of some demographics might hesitate for fear of getting arrested themselves -- which is an additional reason for reporting if you think it is safe for you to do so. Nevertheless, reporting to the police would support your own story and perhaps protect you from being accused of selling them yourself on the side.

In any case, tell CVS corporate that you will be moving all of your prescriptions out of CVS entirely, and will only consider coming back if the person responsible is brought to justice.

Of course a report to the local news is another possibility, but that all depends on how much trouble you are willing to make.


What are the odds CVS files a complaint with the police about DP having a potential opioid addiction problem ?
They could very easily turn this around and make DP look like the abuser.
I would tread very very carefully here.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Janit
Date: March 09, 2018 09:11AM
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billb
What are the odds CVS files a complaint with the police about DP having a potential opioid addiction problem ?
They could very easily turn this around and make DP look like the abuser.
I would tread very very carefully here.

Hence the suggestion of an immediate report to the police. Do you have a lawyer friend who could coach you regarding the appropriate phrasing of such a report?
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Pam
Date: March 09, 2018 09:30AM
Devils advocate here, just because the store didn't give you a satisfactory response doesn't mean they won't act seriously out of your presence. No employer can insinuate that an employee stole in front of you. They should have cameras or other means of monitoring, as well as means of addressing such behavior. But this kind of stuff doesn't happen in front of the customer.

I guess from now on the thing to do is count your pills before leaving the counter. Even before paying for them.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 09, 2018 09:31AM
POLICE REPORT! This will keep YOU from being labeled as a scammer and potentially BLACK LISTED from being able to get the opiods you actually need.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: jims
Date: March 09, 2018 09:40AM
So sorry you had this problem

Here's another example of people misusing causing others a problem.My wife uses tramadol and went to get her refill. They told her she could now only get a 7 day refill at a time. Finally found out that the insurance company had a new policy. She had to jump through hoops and got an exemption, but if she couldn't have or for others that are not so lucky, going back every 7 days for a refill could be a real problem. Many states are now restricting refills to 2-7 days. At least this was the insurance company and was able to be overridden, unlike a law.

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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: DP
Date: March 09, 2018 09:44AM
What are the odds CVS files a complaint with the police about DP having a potential opioid addiction problem ?
They could very easily turn this around and make DP look like the abuser.
I would tread very very carefully here.


A scrutinizing of my history will show I have never tried getting more pills before the usual period of time between scrips.

I also thought that I could be responsible for NOT reporting a possible crime involving opioids!

Another reason for this great forum-even tho it's not an Apple related issue, you all have brought up ideas I hadn't thought of...

And when did it change from opiates to opioids?





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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: March 09, 2018 09:58AM
The obvious question is if you received 82 pills, and their inventory shows that 100 were removed...where'd the other 18 pills go? I'd start with the 'new guy' working at the pharmacy.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 09, 2018 10:00AM
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DP
What are the odds CVS files a complaint with the police about DP having a potential opioid addiction problem ?
They could very easily turn this around and make DP look like the abuser.
I would tread very very carefully here.


A scrutinizing of my history will show I have never tried getting more pills before the usual period of time between scrips.

I also thought that I could be responsible for NOT reporting a possible crime involving opioids!

Another reason for this great forum-even tho it's not an Apple related issue, you all have brought up ideas I hadn't thought of...

And when did it change from opiates to opioids?

Opioid is just a modern term to refer to all natural and synthetic compounds that act on opioid receptors. Opiates are historically natural and derived compounds from opium, including heroin, morphine, etc.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: vicrock
Date: March 09, 2018 10:03AM
Probably stating the obvious - but from now on open and count in front of the pharmacist any opiods you get.

I also second the idea of moving your business if you do not get satisfaction from the management - I'd schedule a sit down with the highest management you can get to -

Also - if your state is one of the enlightened ones that have approved marijuana - at least the medical variety - you might look into seeing if that might help. Lots of folks have been able to get off opiods entirely with high CBD/low THC cannabis products.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: DP
Date: March 09, 2018 10:13AM
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Pam
Devils advocate here, just because the store didn't give you a satisfactory response doesn't mean they won't act seriously out of your presence. No employer can insinuate that an employee stole in front of you. They should have cameras or other means of monitoring, as well as means of addressing such behavior. But this kind of stuff doesn't happen in front of the customer.

I guess from now on the thing to do is count your pills before leaving the counter. Even before paying for them.

They have always been a good crew and I have enjoyed a positive experience dealing with this store and it's pharmacy. I would hope they are looking into things and I will bring up things like camera evidence when I speak with the store supervisor although he hasn't returned my call yet. Maybe he's trying to get information before calling.

Because of our history, I am reticent to do anything before talking to the supervisor. I don't like going over other's heads and will give them a chance to give me an adequate response, such as looking at tapes.

But, yeah, how many of us open our prescriptions and count the pills? How many even think of it? They did say from now on we can do that when I pick up my order, but I said thank you, but I am not coming here anymore...





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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: billb
Date: March 09, 2018 10:27AM
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DP
What are the odds CVS files a complaint with the police about DP having a potential opioid addiction problem ?
They could very easily turn this around and make DP look like the abuser.
I would tread very very carefully here.


A scrutinizing of my history will show I have never tried getting more pills before the usual period of time between scrips.

I also thought that I could be responsible for NOT reporting a possible crime involving opioids!

Another reason for this great forum-even tho it's not an Apple related issue, you all have brought up ideas I hadn't thought of...

And when did it change from opiates to opioids?

I don't doubt you for a second. I doubt anyone on this forum does.
You should report theft.

You should also be prepared to become the accused by doing so. Don't be blind-sided.
CVS will defend their employees and the store's reputation, even when they might know they are wrong.


Technically opioids are synthetic opiates.

Technically opioids are synthetic versions of opiates.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: GGD
Date: March 09, 2018 10:46AM
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ztirffritz
The obvious question is if you received 82 pills, and their inventory shows that 100 were removed...where'd the other 18 pills go? I'd start with the 'new guy' working at the pharmacy.

The 'new guy' is the obvious guess, but it really could have been any employee that has access to the pharmacy area and the filled prescription bins, and could have been done after the pharmacist counted and bottled the pills, and they would also know that everyone would suspect the 'new guy'.

If an employee is doing this, it would probably be happening to other customers too, and you would think that if management received complaints from multiple customers they would realize that they have an internal problem and need to take it seriously.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: March 09, 2018 11:29AM
Sorry to hear. As others have said, go to social media and file a police report. Others may be reporting similar issues.

I have a significant number of painkillers from my surgery last year. I think hydrocodone was one of them. For one bottle, I took only a few and then didn't need any more. The second bottle I never took. I paid money for these. The thought crossed my mind to post them on craigslist, then I realized what that really was. I guess I just need to dispose of them.




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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 09, 2018 11:38AM
I would seriously consider contacting the DEA.

With your history of documentable back trauma, I doubt you could be culpable of any wrong doing by doing nothing. This is not the same as the gaggle of young adults filling in and out of the local cannabis club with their complaint of pain and purchased card. But you should do something. Police report yes. Your local PD may or may not take a report, since there is only allegation of a crime. Even if they say there's nothing they can do, you'll have a date, time, and the name of an officer to refer to.

The bigger issue is nobody steals just 18 pills. There are very likely more victims. Not only are you not getting what you legally purchased, you're not getting needed pain medication, and someone is stealing a controlled substance, and someone else is using it illegally.

I'd go back to the pharmacy and first explain making it very clear that you understand you can't be 'reimbursed' under the circumstances and that you don't expect any further action on that transaction. Further explain that because there is an obvious discrepancy between your count and their inventory, this needs to be investigated by the appropriate authority (DEA).

I'm not suggesting you make this a bargaining tactic, but that you do actually report it to the DEA. There is the possibility of your pharmacy no longer wanting you as a customer and you should be prepared for that. You might also contact your doctor prior and tell him/her of your experience and intentions.




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Posted by: space-time
Date: March 09, 2018 11:39AM
Sounds like we need to count the pills before leaving the store. Sad but I don't see another solution.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 09, 2018 11:43AM
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M A V I C
I have a significant number of painkillers from my surgery last year. I think hydrocodone was one of them. For one bottle, I took only a few and then didn't need any more. The second bottle I never took. I paid money for these. The thought crossed my mind to post them on craigslist, then I realized what that really was. I guess I just need to dispose of them.

When she was still with us, my mom's doctors prescribed her so many pain meds she couldn't/wouldn't take them all. One day, she pulled out a gallon container of Demerol and asked me if I wanted them. Brief visions of what the street value would be danced through my head... and then I remembered I wasn't a drug dealer. I don't know what she ended up doing with those pills.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 09, 2018 11:45AM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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M A V I C
I have a significant number of painkillers from my surgery last year. I think hydrocodone was one of them. For one bottle, I took only a few and then didn't need any more. The second bottle I never took. I paid money for these. The thought crossed my mind to post them on craigslist, then I realized what that really was. I guess I just need to dispose of them.

When she was still with us, my mom's doctors prescribed her so many pain meds she couldn't/wouldn't take them all. One day, she pulled out a gallon container of Demerol and asked me if I wanted them. Brief visions of what the street value would be danced through my head... and then I remembered I wasn't a drug dealer. I don't know what she ended up doing with those pills.

Neither am I... nor do I wish to be. But that's "pay off the house and the car" money there. I can see why you'd daydream a bit!



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 09, 2018 11:48AM
Sounds like we need to count the pills before leaving the store. Sad but I don't see another solution.

Well, there's always the Radio Shack UBS scale and a portable power supply.




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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Pam
Date: March 09, 2018 11:49AM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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M A V I C
I have a significant number of painkillers from my surgery last year. I think hydrocodone was one of them. For one bottle, I took only a few and then didn't need any more. The second bottle I never took. I paid money for these. The thought crossed my mind to post them on craigslist, then I realized what that really was. I guess I just need to dispose of them.

When she was still with us, my mom's doctors prescribed her so many pain meds she couldn't/wouldn't take them all. One day, she pulled out a gallon container of Demerol and asked me if I wanted them. Brief visions of what the street value would be danced through my head... and then I remembered I wasn't a drug dealer. I don't know what she ended up doing with those pills.

Some will read obituaries and suss out who may have been on these meds. Then break into the homes during the announced visitation/burial. I house sat for a coworker after his son's death for this reason. Even though he had already removed the drugs.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 09, 2018 12:15PM
I agree with those who say to call the police, to discuss with CVS management and to stay with the store because they are victims, too. Count your pills at the store until they regain your trust. I would skip the DEA because they are likely to overreact creating more grief for you. Your doctor can advise you on how to get through with fewer doses.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 09, 2018 12:49PM
I agree with Speedy. I would not call the DEA. I hate to say it, but in some eyes you will be a suspect.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: lost in space
Date: March 09, 2018 12:59PM
Definitely talk to the supervisor. Do so politely, as I expect you would, without pointing fingers. Your history with them will probaly serve you well here.

In the future, to avoid having to count out 100 pills every time, you could use a small electronic scale. It might not catch one or two missing pills, but would certainly give you a quick first pass check.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: March 09, 2018 01:21PM
The dosages are pretty accurate and consistent. I bet that it should easily detect a missing individual pill. Not if someone were to scrape a few mg off each pill and collectively combine them, you might night detect that. But if an entire pill was absent, that should be pretty obvious.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: btfc
Date: March 09, 2018 01:22PM
"Sounds like we need to count the pills before leaving the store. Sad but I don't see another solution."

Tell THEM to count the pills BEFORE you will accept delivery.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: GGD
Date: March 09, 2018 01:32PM
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btfc
"Sounds like we need to count the pills before leaving the store. Sad but I don't see another solution."

Tell THEM to count the pills BEFORE you will accept delivery.

Assuming that the employee that you're asking to do the count isn't also the thief.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 09, 2018 01:33PM
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btfc
"Sounds like we need to count the pills before leaving the store. Sad but I don't see another solution."

Tell THEM to count the pills BEFORE you will accept delivery.

Assuming that the employee that you're asking to do the count isn't also the thief.

They can count it right in front of you.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: PeterW
Date: March 09, 2018 01:44PM
Or they can tell you to take your prescription down the street to Walmart and play games with them.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: March 09, 2018 02:00PM
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lost in space
In the future, to avoid having to count out 100 pills every time, you could use a small electronic scale. It might not catch one or two missing pills, but would certainly give you a quick first pass check.

@#$%& that. I'd wait until it got good and busy, grab a nice clean mat, and when it was my turn at the counter, I'd get my pills, roll out the mat right there on the counter, dump the bottle out and proceed to count ALL 100 while the line got longer and longer behind me. I'd probably lose count several times too from all the complaining going on in the back.




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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: btfc
Date: March 09, 2018 02:05PM
"I'd get my pills, roll out the mat right there on the counter, dump the bottle out and proceed to count ALL 100 while the line got longer and longer behind me."

And tell everyone within earshot the story of the missing 18 pills
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: DP
Date: March 09, 2018 02:08PM
And light up a cigarette while I'm at it!

While I think of it, I thought I'd go online to see if there was a lawyer site I could get a quick answer to whether I should contact the police as I don't have a personal lawyer. I started on one but they still want me cough up $5 with my credit card before they send along my question...





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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: GGD
Date: March 09, 2018 02:16PM
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And light up a cigarette while I'm at it!

While I think of it, I thought I'd go online to see if there was a lawyer site I could get a quick answer to whether I should contact the police as I don't have a personal lawyer. I started on one but they still want me cough up $5 with my credit card before they send along my question...

This is the guy you want....

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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: March 09, 2018 02:25PM
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DP
And light up a cigarette while I'm at it!

While I think of it, I thought I'd go online to see if there was a lawyer site I could get a quick answer to whether I should contact the police as I don't have a personal lawyer. I started on one but they still want me cough up $5 with my credit card before they send along my question...

Maybe call your local county bar association.



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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: DP
Date: March 09, 2018 02:57PM
Just got the call from the store supervisor and he apparently had yet to be informed of this or was just waiting to hear what I had to say, but he said he would check into it. I also said I was going to file a police report, to which he said he understood. I made no threats and didn't demand I get the 18 missing tablets, and we had a civil conversation but I said I felt this was a serious situation and he agreed.

My doctor called earlier and she said, "Hell yes! Report it to the police!".

So I'll call the police and ask what the next step should be...





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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 09, 2018 03:26PM
I would skip the DEA because they are likely to overreact creating more grief for you.

I see that as very unlikely, given that we're discussing 18 pills. The DEA is used to dealing with much larger numbers. While they might initially look askance at him, they can easily confirm he fits no user profile and that medical needs are wholly documentable.

And unlike the local PD/SO, the DEA has much greater purview. If I were in DP's shoes, I'd know I was on very thick ice, and any investigator would know that too.

This should be addressed by law enforcement. City/county cops have often have limited resources and in this instance, unless there are a lot of similar complaints with the same CVS, it's unlikely much of anything will be accomplished.

Bottom line— CVS can lie to DP and even the local authorities (until they get a warrant, unlikely they'd investigate); to the DEA not so much. It's also possible they wouldn't bother either. If it were me, my reporting to them would come up in casual conversation, and that they might expect a visit (unless I was told not to say anything.

DP needs assurance from CVS that he won't have to count out his purchase every time, or wait while they do it, or be unceremoniously told to shop elsewhere. (I'd be prepared and willing to do any of the preceding. Or bring the USB scale and battery.)




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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: testcase
Date: March 09, 2018 03:30PM
If you have not yet reported this to the police, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR????????????


As cbelt3 and PaulF have pointed out, this is a SERIOUS matter; one which could come back to haunt you and, in the near future, prevent you from getting the Rx meds your doctor is prescribing.
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: March 09, 2018 04:57PM
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And when did it change from opiates to opioids?

Two different things really—opiates are fans of Opi; opioids are people that look like Opi.

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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: March 09, 2018 05:05PM
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DP needs assurance from CVS that he won't have to count out his purchase every time, or wait while they do it, or be unceremoniously told to shop elsewhere. (I'd be prepared and willing to do any of the preceding. Or bring the USB scale and battery.)

RAMd®d? Is that really you? Where the @#$%& have you been?
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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: March 09, 2018 05:19PM
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RAMd®d
DP needs assurance from CVS that he won't have to count out his purchase every time, or wait while they do it, or be unceremoniously told to shop elsewhere. (I'd be prepared and willing to do any of the preceding. Or bring the USB scale and battery.)

RAMd®d? Is that really you? Where the @#$%& have you been?

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Re: Having an issue at local CVS; Opioid problem hits home...
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Date: March 09, 2018 05:52PM
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