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Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: Buzz
Date: April 11, 2018 12:31PM
Hoping I don't jinx it... but have been getting meds via the mail order option pursuant to our health insurance co's strong suggestions over the years. As long as spousal unit keeps flying, I will continue to opt out of medicare since the prescription benefit alone highly favors the private insurance, so gotta kowtow to their directives. Anyhow, the mail order unit tends to find the cheapest sources for meds, and occasionally they get some real klunkers. Finally, for the first time I can remember, they sent a batch of what used to be my second favorite generic meds. Several years back, Qualitest was merged/acquired into bigger conglomerates, but before that, they were my number two behind Watson. We'll see if their current incarnation bodes as well as their past, but after years of more disappointment than glee when opening mail order packages, it was a pleasant surprise to welcome an old friend back home.
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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: April 11, 2018 12:34PM
......yes.....drug score......!!!!



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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: PeterW
Date: April 11, 2018 12:37PM
Not sure how old you are or how you are eligible for Medicare, but there are penalties involved if you do not sign up for MC when you are eligible.
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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: Fred_Also
Date: April 11, 2018 01:24PM
Please don't take the "Score" before you post.


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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 11, 2018 05:27PM
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Buzz
Hoping I don't jinx it... but have been getting meds via the mail order option pursuant to our health insurance co's strong suggestions over the years.

Just curious - is it OptumRx?

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Buzz
Anyhow, the mail order unit tends to find the cheapest sources for meds, and occasionally they get some real klunkers.

Just dealing with that myself now. Without going into great detail, eszopiclone ("Lunesta") gave me my life back. It was expensive, but worth it, and then it went generic (yay!). But now I have to take whatever the current low-price bidder is.

A month or so ago, OptumRx sent me a bunch from a new generic supplier (out of India, FWIW). After a week or two, I realized that it wasn't working at all. OptumRx says, too bad, that's our supplier. I said, can I pay for this med from a different supplier? Nope, it's a controlled substance. Well, I'd be happy to send these back! No we don't take returns. I'm not looking for my money back, I just want an effective med. Nope. Nothing until May.

I finally managed to convince my doc and health plan of the situation, and the latter said okay, but you have to pay retail (for a different generic) - around $400, as opposed to ~$10. Which I did.

As it turns out, I'm in the unusual situation of having access to drug analysis (in process). If this generic isn't what it is supposed to be, you may hear about it on the news - I'm that PO'ed.



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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: AllGold
Date: April 11, 2018 06:54PM
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pdq
As it turns out, I'm in the unusual situation of having access to drug analysis (in process). If this generic isn't what it is supposed to be, you may hear about it on the news - I'm that PO'ed.

Good! Give 'em hell!



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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: Buzz
Date: April 11, 2018 08:55PM
pdq- Yep, it's OptumRx. Sounds like you're familiar w/ the protocol. :-)
They used Mallinckrodt for awhile, then more recently it's been Amneal, now (thankfully, maybe) Qualitest (from PAR) for the main generic score. On the similar flip side, Myrbetriq is not on the formulary, which has worked well for me, but when I tried the suggested substitute (cheaper) meds that are on the formulary, I passed out and keeled over a couple of times after my IVIG infusions... still haggling w/ them over getting an exception from the formulary for the Myrbetriq... they're not making it easy.

PW- I'm enrolled in basic MC, which is hospitalization only, and opt out of everything else in favor spousal unit's employer's plan... my estimated annual medical expenses have been coming in at around $400K the last few years, w/ no hope of much abatement until death do us part. So plan on sticking w/ that as long as we can keep the old gal up in the air. I'm also eligible for some big pharma subsidies that are DQ'ed under full MC, which helps in that decision.
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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: gabester
Date: April 11, 2018 09:03PM
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pdq
A month or so ago, OptumRx sent me a bunch from a new generic supplier (out of India, FWIW). After a week or two, I realized that it wasn't working at all. OptumRx says, too bad, that's our supplier. I said, can I pay for this med from a different supplier? Nope, it's a controlled substance. Well, I'd be happy to send these back! No we don't take returns. I'm not looking for my money back, I just want an effective med. Nope. Nothing until May...

As it turns out, I'm in the unusual situation of having access to drug analysis (in process). If this generic isn't what it is supposed to be, you may hear about it on the news - I'm that PO'ed.

You'll have to let us know how this turns out. I'm always concerned about getting scammed - and with medications, it's so important to know you're actually getting what you're supposed to be taking!

What recourse do people have when this is the sort of roadblock thrown in their way? Complain all up and down the board to the providers, the regulators, the insurers, the media, the state attorney general and any state trade commision, the FTC, and your elected representatives if something like this turns out to be done wrong - especially if it's done willfully as a cost-saving measure. (Oh, 14% of our customers won't know they're getting a placebo instead of their actual medication, and we'll pocket 20% more revenue!)
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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 12, 2018 01:53AM
Well, we’ll see. As I said, I have access to drug testing that the average schmoe doesn’t, but this particular drug is outside their usual baliwick. Maybe it comes back as labelled, and it’s just in my head. If not, the next step is finding a company for which this drug IS in their usual baliwick, and nailing down the results.

If those two things happen (and that’s a big if), I go back to the insurer and tell them their preferred mail-order pharmacy has a bad supplier and see what they say. If they blow me off (which is what I assume would happen, based on experience) maybe I can file a whistleblower lawsuit with the FDA (!). Failing that, I’ll see if I can get a local “i-team reporter” interested in a story, since the insurer is a home-town big deal.
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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: April 12, 2018 11:52AM
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pdq
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Buzz
Hoping I don't jinx it... but have been getting meds via the mail order option pursuant to our health insurance co's strong suggestions over the years.

Just curious - is it OptumRx?

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Buzz
Anyhow, the mail order unit tends to find the cheapest sources for meds, and occasionally they get some real klunkers.

Just dealing with that myself now. Without going into great detail, eszopiclone ("Lunesta") gave me my life back. It was expensive, but worth it, and then it went generic (yay!). But now I have to take whatever the current low-price bidder is.

A month or so ago, OptumRx sent me a bunch from a new generic supplier (out of India, FWIW). After a week or two, I realized that it wasn't working at all. OptumRx says, too bad, that's our supplier. I said, can I pay for this med from a different supplier? Nope, it's a controlled substance. Well, I'd be happy to send these back! No we don't take returns. I'm not looking for my money back, I just want an effective med. Nope. Nothing until May.

I finally managed to convince my doc and health plan of the situation, and the latter said okay, but you have to pay retail (for a different generic) - around $400, as opposed to ~$10. Which I did.

As it turns out, I'm in the unusual situation of having access to drug analysis (in process). If this generic isn't what it is supposed to be, you may hear about it on the news - I'm that PO'ed.

Go get them!
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Re: Reverse SCORE! Maybe...
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 16, 2018 09:33AM
Some follow up, if folks are interested. The drug testing lab that I have access to did their analysis. They didn’t have a method for the exact drug, just a related one, which gave a similar result from both the generic I felt was effective and the one that didn’t seem to be. They mentioned that the binders in the pills may be different and this may affect absorption (bioavailability).

Since we were snowed in this weekend and I thus had nothing critical on my schedule (and was more or less house-bound anyway), I gave the seemingly-ineffective generic another try. It’s still ineffective, as far as I can tell.

At this point I haven’t decided whether to try to pursue further testing. There does seem to be urine testing done elsewhere for eszopiclone, which would give some indication as to whether I was absorbing the one generic at all, but this would be on my dime. I’ll let you know if I decide to try to take this further.
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