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Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 05, 2018 06:42PM
There's a route I take regularly on my bike past a cenex station. Today it smelled like a dirty litterbox as I passed. I quickly realized it was due to ammonia fumes and held my breath for a bit. Am I being an overly concerned city slicker or is something wrong?



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: May 05, 2018 06:44PM
Was it open? If you are curious should have stopped to ask.



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: May 05, 2018 07:18PM
Yes that’s a bit worrisome. You may want t give them a call
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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: artie67
Date: May 05, 2018 07:29PM
I don't know where you are, but here I would call 311 and if not response call 911 for referral to the utility.
Also, I don't know what a Cenex station is. Gas or what?
Note: SoCal based post.
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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: May 05, 2018 07:30PM
Also don’t know what Cenex is.
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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: May 05, 2018 07:32PM
Midwestern/northern gas station chain.



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: May 05, 2018 07:54PM
I find that horrible odor is present at many rural gas stations. Seldom encounter it in well-populated areas or at truck stops.

It's the windshield washer fluid in the self-help squeegee bins.

No idea why it gasses off like that.

Seems to attract moths.



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 05, 2018 08:18PM
Ammonia is not a smell you would ever smell at a gas station. It means either their janitor had a really bad spill in the bathroom, or it was taken over by feral cats.



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: May 05, 2018 09:16PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
Ammonia is not a smell you would ever smell at a gas station. It means either their janitor had a really bad spill in the bathroom, or it was taken over by feral cats.

Feral cats? Maybe they just lost the restroom key.
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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 05, 2018 09:21PM
For anyone who would like a google street view link to the location - [www.google.com]

hardly an ordinary gas station.

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google street view is being lame. I intended to link to a couple of click left of the current view.







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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: May 05, 2018 09:35PM
I take it Cenex is akin to Southern States Co-op.
Me thinks it has something to do with fertilizer.



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: May 05, 2018 09:40PM
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mattkime
For anyone who would like a google street view link to the location...

hardly an ordinary gas station.

Not a gas station at all. Looks likes a refinery of some sort.

Ammonia is a by-product from oil-refineries. They're allowed to discharge small amounts as "effluent" into the environment, which is deadly to local fish and widlife and one of many reasons why we should be moving as rapidly as possible to renewable energy.

Whether refining oil or other stuff, the odor shouldn't be so strong in the air as to make you worry for your health just riding along past it.

You can complain to the EPA, but they're busy blowing their entire budget developing a supersoldier serum for Scott Pruitt's bodyguards and digging out a dead volcano for his secret lair new offices.

I suggest doing some Googling for your state environmental regulatory body.







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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 05, 2018 09:51PM
More info on that location - [www.landmark.coop]



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 05, 2018 10:00PM
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I take it Cenex is akin to Southern States Co-op.
Me thinks it has something to do with fertilizer.

You would be correct. Anhydrous ammonia although the pic doesn't show any tanks but they have them. The smell is nothing to be concerned about.



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 05, 2018 10:04PM
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Sarcany
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mattkime
For anyone who would like a google street view link to the location...

hardly an ordinary gas station.

Not a gas station at all. Looks likes a refinery of some sort.

Ammonia is a by-product from oil-refineries. They're allowed to discharge small amounts as "effluent" into the environment, which is deadly to local fish and widlife and one of many reasons why we should be moving as rapidly as possible to renewable energy.

Whether refining oil or other stuff, the odor shouldn't be so strong in the air as to make you worry for your health just riding along past it.

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ammonia scrubber
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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: billb
Date: May 05, 2018 10:30PM
you're probably smelling ammonium thiosulfate fertilizer



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: May 06, 2018 12:12AM
Around here there are lots of cold storage warehouses that rely on ammonia as a refrigerant. When they have a leak the EPA is called, the hazmat team is mobilized and the end result if all goes well is a 200m radius dead zone where everything is dead. If all does not go well it is a 2 km radius dead zone.



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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: srf1957
Date: May 06, 2018 01:23AM
Aqua ammonia . And yes it can kill you if leak is strong enough. Need respirator when transferring it . Local fertilizer company boss almost died because of pinhole leak in transfer hose . Co-worker found him passed out and drug him to clear air.
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Re: Cenex station reeks of ammonia - is this normal?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 06, 2018 12:58PM
Okay, I was thinking it was a gas station. An industrial farm supply location is a completely different animal.

They do list an ammonia related product, Ammonium Thiosulfate. Based on the MSDS, it's usually spread as a granular/powder fertilizer. That could be what you smelled.

I would expect it to be LPG/Propane (RED 1075) based on their sales page but they do have two separate sets of "compressed gas" bulk storage tanks. Kind of a need more info situation. There is nothing definitive from Google Street/Earth that shows they have mass quantities of high concentration aqueous ammonia or ammonia gas ( 2672 or 1005 white text on green background DOT placards respectively). Google street view seems to show green placards on trailers in the SE corner of the property, so it's a possibility...





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