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Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: Microman
Date: May 07, 2018 10:22AM
I am putting in a new laminate floor, and I don't necessarily want to have the wires coming through the floor as they currently do. The wall was built pre 1972, and looks to be Lath and Plaster... It appears the stud is to the left of that Electric socket.

Should I consider drilling at the base of the wall to the left of the STUD, and then cut a ADD ON BOX, (one of those blue things at Home Depot with ears that would hold in place and then have wires exit through it?

I would think I would be able to get the wires to the wall, and then through that base plate and then drill up, , I don't think there should be a firebrick in that short distance up to the level of the other electric box.

Or any other ideas?, Maybe just leave them where they are and come out through the base molding?

Come to think of it that seems a lot easier



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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 07, 2018 10:59AM
You typically don't want a router or network cables right next to an outlet.



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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: May 07, 2018 11:04AM
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Filliam H. Muffman
You typically don't want a router or network cables right next to an outlet.
Coax is a special case because great shielding. Your concept is a good one, go for it !

And.. typical cable installer laziness... drill through the floor and carpet instead of fishing through the wall. Ugh...
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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: May 07, 2018 11:09AM
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Filliam H. Muffman
You typically don't want a router or network cables right next to an outlet.
Coax is a special case because great shielding. Your concept is a good one, go for it !

And.. typical cable installer laziness... drill through the floor and carpet instead of fishing through the wall. Ugh...

Yep. We have a number of holes in our nice 1950s hardwood floor from those idiots. Speaking of which, what is the best way to plug up those holes? Find an appropriate sized wooden dowel and glue it in? Sand flush and stain?



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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: May 07, 2018 11:18AM
it's a simple thing..I'd cut a decent sized hole in the wall (enough to be able to work properly) where you want this box, neat, and then add some cuts of 2x4 for nailers (for when you cap the hole with drywall)..install a proper box bring in the wire(s) and cap and mud..
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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 07, 2018 01:23PM
......like a bird on a wire....??



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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: Michael
Date: May 08, 2018 05:28AM
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C(-)ris

Yep. We have a number of holes in our nice 1950s hardwood floor from those idiots. Speaking of which, what is the best way to plug up those holes? Find an appropriate sized wooden dowel and glue it in? Sand flush and stain?

I'd use a hole plug cutter to make a precise plug and I'd use the appropriate wood. Lowe's sells 3" prefinished hardwood samples for less than $1. I'd imagine Home Depot does as well. I'd buy this: [www.lowes.com] and the appropriately colored hardwood sample and then drill out the pre-existing hole precisely and cut a plug from the wood sample at the appropriate spot to try to match the grain and then glue it in. If done carefully, it can be almost invisible and not require any finishing.
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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 08, 2018 06:15AM
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I'd use a hole plug.....



.....what the.....???



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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: michael_s
Date: May 08, 2018 07:27AM
As for the wall, since it is low voltage you do not need a box. There is a metal plate/bracket with foldable ears that are made for this purpose. The ears hold the bracket in place and give you something to screw the cover to.

I'm not sure I've ever seen them at a big box store, but then again I have never specifically looked.

How many new receptacles are we talking about?

I may have enough to mail you a few.

PM if interested.
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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 08, 2018 08:11AM
....balls to the wall....



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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: pqrst
Date: May 08, 2018 10:25AM
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Filliam H. Muffman
You typically don't want a router or network cables right next to an outlet.
I’m considering doing that or at least putting it a foot away. Is there a reason for your concern?
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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: mikebw
Date: May 08, 2018 10:41AM
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Filliam H. Muffman
You typically don't want a router or network cables right next to an outlet.
I’m considering doing that or at least putting it a foot away. Is there a reason for your concern?

EMI - [en.wikipedia.org]

Not a safety hazard, but power lines can cause interference in other electrical signal systems. The farther away the better, or if you have to cross paths do so at a 90 degree angle. Running parallel is about the worst thing you could do. >1 foot should be fine.
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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: May 08, 2018 11:03AM
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michael_s
As for the wall, since it is low voltage you do not need a box. There is a metal plate/bracket with foldable ears that are made for this purpose. The ears hold the bracket in place and give you something to screw the cover to.

I'm not sure I've ever seen them at a big box store, but then again I have never specifically looked.

[www.homedepot.com]




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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: billb
Date: May 08, 2018 11:35AM
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Filliam H. Muffman
You typically don't want a router or network cables right next to an outlet.
I’m considering doing that or at least putting it a foot away. Is there a reason for your concern?

Now ask how unlikely that is to happen in a typical home environment outside of a utility room.



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Re: Need to move wires from floor to wall
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 09, 2018 10:17AM
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mikebw
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pqrst
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Filliam H. Muffman
You typically don't want a router or network cables right next to an outlet.
I’m considering doing that or at least putting it a foot away. Is there a reason for your concern?

EMI - [en.wikipedia.org]

Not a safety hazard, but power lines can cause interference in other electrical signal systems. The farther away the better, or if you have to cross paths do so at a 90 degree angle. Running parallel is about the worst thing you could do. >1 foot should be fine.

It's a holdover of recommendations from the dark ages of AppleTalk and twisted pair networks. At least 12 inches spacing for parallel runs, cross at 90 degrees. Routers/hubs/access points 12 inches from outlets.



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