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medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: wurm
Date: July 08, 2018 11:10AM
Thinking about easy ways to sort of secure our new generator when it's in use over the winter. I'm thinking of the easiest way just to slow someone down a bit with a bike lock or chain and padlock. In use, the the generator will be close to the wall (corner) of our shed. As for what to secure it to, here are my two thoughts.

1. dig a hole, pour some Quikrete, and set a u-bolt into the cement.
2. run a u-bolt through the corner of the shed, securing the bolts on the inside of the shed.

I think either way will serve the purpose. Option two just saves dealing with the hole digging and Quikrete.

As mentioned in an earlier thread, we live in a fairly safe and honest neighborhood, so I'm not overly concerned about it growing legs. As I said, this would just be to give someone reason to think twice.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: Acer
Date: July 08, 2018 11:39AM
You could drive a steel fence post as far into the ground as you can get it to go, then chain to that.
With any chain, get the thickest you can find to prevent common bolt cutters.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: July 08, 2018 11:55AM
Lasers!

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Sharks would be cool too!

That said, if you're using the system because the power is out...



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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: space-time
Date: July 08, 2018 11:57AM
I assume someone is home when this runs? I would NOT leave it unattended. Then you should see/hear if power goes out, right?

I could be wrong, but I have a hard time seeing how someone could steal this if you are home. Or it can happen when it is OFF, say at Night? Do people let these run all night?
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: JoeH
Date: July 08, 2018 12:02PM
Most common time for outages here is during the winter when snow and ice brings down lines. Then a generator might be run all or most of the night to provide electrical power for a furnace or boiler for heat.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: modelamac
Date: July 08, 2018 12:10PM
Just make up a sign that says "This property is protected by security cameras that have already recorded you. Silent alarms have been sent to the police from this address. Stick around if you would like proof."



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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: billb
Date: July 08, 2018 12:29PM
Paint it hot pink.
Or, rainbow.



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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: wurm
Date: July 08, 2018 01:07PM
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space-time
I assume someone is home when this runs? I would NOT leave it unattended. Then you should see/hear if power goes out, right?

I could be wrong, but I have a hard time seeing how someone could steal this if you are home. Or it can happen when it is OFF, say at Night? Do people let these run all night?

Yes, we would be home, but the generator would be away from the house and out of sight. Apparently a common ploy among generator thieves is to leave an old cheap lawnmower (running) and swap it with the generator. Both sound similar, so the homeowner would hardly even be aware of a switch.

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Acer
You could drive a steel fence post as far into the ground as you can get it to go, then chain to that.

And Acer, that's a good thought, as a post of our chain link fence is only about 8' away, but a proper padlock and a beefy enough chain of the right length would be even more expensive that the other options I'm considering.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: Acer
Date: July 08, 2018 01:39PM
Just to be clear, I'm suggesting a steel U-post or T-post (or two) in the ground right next to the unit. A metal post driver makes the job much easier.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: btfc
Date: July 08, 2018 01:42PM
Attach it to the shed and install one of those fake cameras above it.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: GGD
Date: July 08, 2018 02:47PM
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wurm
Apparently a common ploy among generator thieves is to leave an old cheap lawnmower (running) and swap it with the generator. Both sound similar, so the homeowner would hardly even be aware of a switch.

The power going out might be a big clue that the generator was missing.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: JoeH
Date: July 08, 2018 03:00PM
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GGD
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wurm
Apparently a common ploy among generator thieves is to leave an old cheap lawnmower (running) and swap it with the generator. Both sound similar, so the homeowner would hardly even be aware of a switch.

The power going out might be a big clue that the generator was missing.

After it was gone if the lights were out and what was being run off the generator was currently not running. Easy enough if the powered device was a fridge or heating equipment such as a furnace.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: July 08, 2018 03:05PM
I like the post, chain, and proper lock idea. The total cost would still be less than that of a second generator.

There should also be an alarm with two audible alerts, one in the house and a very loud one near the generator. A motion detector light is a good idea, even with no generator.

A dummy or prop M18 mounted to the front of the generator couldn't hurt. (Yes, pun intended.)




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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: 3d
Date: July 08, 2018 04:11PM
Block the driveway with a steel dumpster.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: Racer X
Date: July 08, 2018 04:23PM
claymore mines and trip wires.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: btfc
Date: July 08, 2018 04:57PM
"claymore mines and trip wires"


[alarmmine.com]

Also available for .308 and 12 gauge.

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I considered getting some after having a bunch of stuff stolen from my Oregon place.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/08/2018 04:59PM by btfc.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: billb
Date: July 08, 2018 05:19PM
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GGD
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wurm
Apparently a common ploy among generator thieves is to leave an old cheap lawnmower (running) and swap it with the generator. Both sound similar, so the homeowner would hardly even be aware of a switch.

The power going out might be a big clue that the generator was missing.





The Phorum Wall keeps us safe from illegal characters and words
The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is the knowledge of one's own ignorance. -Benjamin Franklin
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: July 08, 2018 06:05PM

M18




When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men
except by believing all possible evil
of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

-An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

Mister, that's a ten-gallon hat on a twenty-gallon head.

I *love* Sigs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: Racer X
Date: July 08, 2018 06:09PM
My mistake, I thought you said Mk19, my buddies favorite toy in the service.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/08/2018 06:11PM by Racer X.
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Re: medium security theft-proofing
Posted by: what4
Date: July 09, 2018 07:24AM
Maybe a pin-alarm? (Use that search term on Amazon.) It would make a very loud, piercing sound that is painful to be close to without ear protectors.
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