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Mac Chargers - Beware
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: August 10, 2018 04:19AM
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Yet another reason to be wary of knockoff chargers for newer Macs that use a USB port for power. A researcher showed how he modified one making it possible to hijack a user's computer. The charger still did it's job but it also gave a hacker full access without the user having any idea it was happening.

Besides capturing information, the charger can also be used to inject malware, root kits and persistent types of malicious infections.

The photo below shows the device but has been redacted to keep connections secret.





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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/10/2018 04:20AM by Ombligo.
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And HP, Lenovo, and a lot of Other Chargers - Beware
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 10, 2018 07:34AM
The question is— would a charge-only cable between a charger and device thwart this hack?

The article mentions phones being charged at charging stations. There are USB Type-A adapters that connect between the device and power that do not pass data. There are charge only cables.

I'd think a USB-C based device or cable would do the same thing.

So if you're carrying your charger in your pocket and somebody seemingly innocently bumps into you, make sure you check it before plugging in.




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/10/2018 07:35AM by RAMd®d.
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Re: Mac Chargers - Beware
Posted by: OWC Larry
Date: August 10, 2018 07:53AM
It’s usb type C - there is power management interface with that connection. I do not believe you can have a power only usb type C cable



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Re: Mac Chargers - Beware
Posted by: sekker
Date: August 10, 2018 07:58AM
One disadvantage of ‘one port to rule them all!’

Seriously, this has to be pretty low risk event. Making something like this IS possible but is more for a spy than a worry for a standard user.
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Re: And HP, Lenovo, and a lot of Other Chargers - Beware
Posted by: billb
Date: August 10, 2018 08:37AM
I'll have to protect my Apple chargers from those scary Russians that hide under my bed.



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Re: Mac Chargers - Beware
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 10, 2018 09:50AM
I do not believe you can have a power only usb type C cable

That's disappointing.




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Re: Mac Chargers - Beware
Posted by: space-time
Date: August 10, 2018 12:02PM
Apple should have kept the Magsafe connector, and allow the new machines to charge from Magsafe OR USB-C. that would have been such a nice option IMHO.
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Re: Mac Chargers - Beware
Posted by: raz
Date: August 10, 2018 12:51PM
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space-time
Apple should have kept the Magsafe connector, and allow the new machines to charge from Magsafe OR USB-C. that would have been such a nice option IMHO.

And make the laptop 0.5mm thicker? I think not!



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Re: Mac Chargers - Beware
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: August 10, 2018 03:20PM
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sekker
One disadvantage of ‘one port to rule them all!’

Seriously, this has to be pretty low risk event. Making something like this IS possible but is more for a spy than a worry for a standard user.

I don't know.. put them on Amazon and eBay at an attractive price, fake up a bunch of good reviews, and the typical American consumer would bite without a second thought. Remember, they work as advertised. People won't even know they are screwed until it is too late. Even then, they may not think of the charger. That could allow for a repeat performance.

Sell even a thousand that lets you steal $1000 from the owners, you suddenly have a million dollars.



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Re: Mac Chargers - Beware
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 10, 2018 04:32PM
I really liked the Mag-Safe connector.




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all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men
except by believing all possible evil
of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

-An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

Mister, that's a ten-gallon hat on a twenty-gallon head.

I *love* Sigs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Mac Chargers - Beware
Posted by: Racer X
Date: August 10, 2018 09:45PM
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RAMd®d
I really liked the Mag-Safe connector.

It was an elegant solution, so it had to go.
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