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speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 10, 2018 11:41AM
I have found, over years of non-empirical study, and hundreds of thousands of miles, that there is one car that a******s prefer, and that is the Jeep Grand Cherokee. In fact, I don't even know what the second most a**holey car is because the cohort is so dominated by the Cherokee. Now, interestingly, this does not seem to extend to other Jeep models. Some Wrangler models driven by kids are certainly aggressive, but the rule seems pretty exclusive to the Grand Cherokee. That's my take, what's yours?
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 10, 2018 11:50AM
Ones with Jersey plates on them.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: August 10, 2018 11:53AM
MrBig,

Nope. No make, model or year in particular. They drive all types of vehicles. Even school bus drivers are known to drive like a**hats around here and they do it with children on board. I don't stand for that. If I see a school bus driver operating the bus like an a**hat, I call the bus company and report it. No doubt about it. They need to know what is going on and take appropriate action.

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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Bernie
Date: August 10, 2018 11:54AM





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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: space-time
Date: August 10, 2018 11:56AM
my empirical experience says BMW. I am not now saying all MBW drivers are aggressive, far from such a statement, just that the percentage of drivers being aggressive is higher for BMW than other makers, based on MY limited empirical observation.

And I want to make it clear that someone accelerating a sport car from a red light, as long as they have clear road ahead of them, and they do not exceed the speed limit by an absurd amount is not considered aggressive. What I find aggressive and annoying is when someone tailgates, runs stop/red lights, do not stop at right turn on red, or even honk if you do, they are pissed off that you obey the law and slow them down.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: billb
Date: August 10, 2018 12:15PM
More often than not it is a BMW making a di@@head inconsiderate “rules are for other people” move around here.



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: August 10, 2018 12:28PM
A sedan, usually beat to heck and with pieces hanging off of it. I see a bashed in car, I stay the heck away from it. Lest it use my car to add to its collection of scars.

Alternatively an overpowered male member compensatory device, usually a large pickup truck with stupid bumper stickers, often with confederate flags (not the white hanky one) flying. Those guys are terrifying.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: August 10, 2018 12:36PM
> I see a bashed in car, I stay the heck away from it.

LOL! You must have never driven in Detroit! When I get down that way, virtually EVERY vehicle has a fender bender.



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 10, 2018 12:37PM
Car seems to be irrelevant, but I see more and more women than men.



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: August 10, 2018 12:46PM
High-end luxury car drivers in general, and (for reasons that are unclear) Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler Neon drivers are more apt to be unnecessarily thoughtless and aggressive. NOT 100%, of course, but generally.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: August 10, 2018 12:47PM
.....the buTTmobile.....??



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Grateful11
Date: August 10, 2018 12:49PM
In NC it's Dodge RAM pickups. I asked a guy one day if there was a sticker inside his truck that said, "tailgate every chance you get".



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: August 10, 2018 12:56PM
Car makes associated with a*****e drivers vary from city to city. In the SGV it was Audis and to a lesser extent BMWs but more recently that's been moving to Maseratis. There is a typical type of driver associated with these cars which I choose not to elaborate on but it's not gender-based.

However there are also the timid/lame/annoying not very good drivers and that association is with Toyotas, usually Corollas and Camrys, more rarely Avalons or Lexuses. And yes there is a type of driver (different from above) very commonly associated with those makes which I will not elaborate on.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 10, 2018 01:03PM
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mrbigstuff
I have found, over years of non-empirical study, and hundreds of thousands of miles...?

"Non-empirical"??
Meaning that your findings are NOT based on observation?
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: davemchine
Date: August 10, 2018 01:29PM
I avoid Prius like the plague. I understand they want to maximize their gas mileage but their slow starts, driving 5mph under the speed limit, glacially slow turns into parking lots with no blinkers drives me insane. I just try to remember that the driver might be a member of my church or maybe a friend of my grandmother's and that it's me that needs to have a better attitude.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 10, 2018 01:39PM
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Lew Zealand
There is a typical type of driver associated with these cars which I choose not to elaborate on but it's not gender-based.

Pretty sure its the same here. guy up the street with 2, one is white with red anoodized rims and loud aftermarket exahust. I see him locally, always zipping and blipping.



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 10, 2018 01:41PM
In NYC its garbage trucks. they don't give a @#$%&



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Buck
Date: August 10, 2018 01:57PM
That's easy: Prius drivers
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: jimmy d
Date: August 10, 2018 02:10PM
In my experience it's Benzes, but maybe that's because I live in an area where they're one of the most driven brands (my wife drives one).

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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 10, 2018 02:34PM
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DeusxMac
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mrbigstuff
I have found, over years of non-empirical study, and hundreds of thousands of miles...?

"Non-empirical"??
Meaning that your findings are NOT based on observation?

Meaning the data are not based on any study, yes on observations
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 10, 2018 02:38PM
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Lew Zealand
Car makes associated with a*****e drivers vary from city to city. In the SGV it was Audis and to a lesser extent BMWs but more recently that's been moving to Maseratis. There is a typical type of driver associated with these cars which I choose not to elaborate on but it's not gender-based.

However there are also the timid/lame/annoying not very good drivers and that association is with Toyotas, usually Corollas and Camrys, more rarely Avalons or Lexuses. And yes there is a type of driver (different from above) very commonly associated with those makes which I will not elaborate on.

Haha, I usually joke that the AARP had a group buy on Camrys. Whenever I'm behind one, I never honk, because it's usually an elderly driver. The Corolla is the car of grad students or recent immigrants around here.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: dk62
Date: August 10, 2018 02:42PM
Large pickup trucks
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Forrest
Date: August 10, 2018 02:49PM
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Ones with Jersey plates on them.

As a NJ resident - I fully agree with you smiley-laughing001
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Bernie
Date: August 10, 2018 03:33PM
Detroit!

OHIO!




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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: August 10, 2018 03:37PM
PT Cruiser
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: August 10, 2018 03:49PM
The further off the ground a pickup is, the bigger the ass inside.



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: davester
Date: August 10, 2018 03:59PM
Oh boy, let's play the stereotype game!

BTW, it's whatever car I'm not in.



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: August 10, 2018 04:03PM
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davester
Oh boy, let's play the stereotype game!

BTW, it's whatever car I'm not in.

Totally. This topic is more about confirmation bias than anything else.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: JoeH
Date: August 10, 2018 04:21PM
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Ombligo
The further off the ground a pickup is, the bigger the ass inside.

thumbs up A lot of truth to that.

Speaking of which, remember when most pickups were at more normal heights. A few would modify theirs for higher road clearance, but they were the exception. Even 4-wheel drive pickups tended to not be anywhere as high as pickups are in general now.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: August 10, 2018 04:30PM
Any vehicle in Boston.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 10, 2018 04:33PM
Not scientific but pickups trucks with lifted suspension, the higher the lift, the higher the possibility.



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Bernie
Date: August 10, 2018 04:53PM
Hey,
What is the difference between a porcupine and a BMW?



A BMW has the pricks on the inside.






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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 10, 2018 06:42PM
I'm just waiting for Last Poster, I'm always curious about what he has to say.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: wurm
Date: August 10, 2018 07:48PM
Unbelievable. I didn't even start reading the thread, but as soon as I saw the subject line, I said aloud, "Jeep Cherokee". After that, pretty much any other model of Jeep, then BMW suvs (for some reason, the BMW sedan drivers aren't so bad).

Incidentally, I also get annoyed with many Prius drivers. And I drive a Prius. Unfortunately, I drive it like I used to drive every other car I've owned, which is probably more aggressively than I should. Which is also why I'm getting only 50-ish mpg.



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: 3d
Date: August 11, 2018 06:51AM
Pickups. Any make. Any model. Any condition.

Pickup a*****e drivers fall in two categories:

A1) Workers who are racing to and from multiple jobsites throughout the day. Resources stretched thin to make a buck. They deal with whiny customers all day. In their truck, they feel in control and stronger than you. It's a break for them, mentally.

A2) Weekend wimps who have no reason owning a pickup other than to make themselves feel bigger. They deal with belittling people all day. In their truck, they feel in control and stronger than you. It's a break for them, mentally.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Bernie
Date: August 11, 2018 07:36AM
I resemble that remark





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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: lost in space
Date: August 11, 2018 09:03AM
Yep, lifted pickups, esp black Rams. Also Prius drivers, though not agressive, just seem to be in their own world without a clue that there are drivers who would like to go at least the speed limit in the HOV lane.

Near Seattle, there was a Prius in the HOV lane holding up a long line of cars. The guy behind it was beside me to my left, obviously frustrated, but not agressive. He looked at me shaking his head doing the WTF? hand gesture. I backed off to let him around; you'd have thought I gave him my winning Lotto ticket. Made my day, and his too, I suspect.

I drove a friend's Prius a few weeks ago. There's something about it that made me feel cut off from the outside world. Maybe that's the problem with their drivers?







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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 11, 2018 10:29AM
The comments a about the Prius are interesting to me, as I certainly see some trying to hypermile, but many of them are hauling a**, esp on the highway. I've often wondered about that.
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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 11, 2018 10:39AM
Since we're stereo typing, let's not for get women.

Any woman in an SUV or crossover must be a soccer mom and sooner or later will cause a fiery death of some innocent person.

Oh, and 'millennials'. I don't know what there weapon of choice is (Ubër?) but no doubt they're up to no good as well.

Ah. That was fun.

Next bias...?




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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 11, 2018 02:17PM
Next bias...?

You'd be incorrect in the application of that word, however, in this instance.


bias:

a : an inclination of temperament or outlook; especially : a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment : prejudice
b : an instance of such prejudice
c : bent, tendency
d (1) : deviation of the expected value of a statistical estimate from the quantity it estimates
(2) : systematic error introduced into sampling or testing by selecting or encouraging one outcome or answer over others


observation:

a : an act or instance of observing a custom, rule, or law

observation of the dress code

b : observance 3

The characters in her novel are based on close observation of her family.

2 a : an act of recognizing and noting a fact or occurrence often involving measurement with instruments

weather observations

b : a record or description so obtained

Scientific observations were sent to the committee.

3 : a judgment on or inference (see inference 1) from what one has observed; broadly : remark, statement

an insightful observation

based his observations on his own research

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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Date: August 11, 2018 02:36PM
"Any woman in an SUV or crossover must be a soccer mom and sooner or later will cause a fiery death of some innocent person."

I nearly coughed out a lung laughing at that one. In LA that was the most dangerous driver I encountered. In Chicago all drivers. In Seattle Subaru drivers busy tuning their radios to NPR while drinking their $8 Starbucks lattes.

Of course none of the above is true except the crazy "risk life & limb to get 2 cars ahead" Chicago drivers.

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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 11, 2018 04:35PM
You'd be incorrect in the application of that word, however, in this instance.

I'll stipulate the possibility, but not the likelihood as:


bias:

a : an inclination of temperament or outlook; especially : a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment : prejudice
b : an instance of such prejudice
c : bent, tendency
d (1) : deviation of the expected value of a statistical estimate from the quantity it estimates
(2) : systematic error introduced into sampling or testing by selecting or encouraging one outcome or answer over others



very often colors what people think are:

observations:

a : an act or instance of observing a custom, rule, or law

observation of the dress code

b : observance 3

The characters in her novel are based on close observation of her family.

2 a : an act of recognizing and noting a fact or occurrence often involving measurement with instruments

weather observations

b : a record or description so obtained

Scientific observations were sent to the committee.

3 : a judgment on or inference (see inference 1) from what one has observed; broadly : remark, statement

an insightful observation

based his observations on his own research



If the subject line were less ambiguous, there might not be any responses attempting to link a type of driver or driver's behavior to a category of car. But there are several, enough that any conclusions and/or implications would be suspect.

For most any truly objective statement equivalent to 'I saw X people doing Y in Z cars' without attempting to draw a correlation, I'd say 'bias' would probably not be appropriate.




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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: Yoyodyne ArtWorks
Date: August 11, 2018 10:23PM
In the old days, inattentive/clueless drivers were often behind the wheel of a Volvo (“the car for people who hate cars”), but nowadays the Prius driver has taken over that role.



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Re: speaking of a*****e drivers, what cars do they drive?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: August 12, 2018 05:50AM
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space-time
my empirical experience says BMW. I am not now saying all MBW drivers are aggressive, far from such a statement, just that the percentage of drivers being aggressive is higher for BMW than other makers, based on MY limited empirical observation.

And I want to make it clear that someone accelerating a sport car from a red light, as long as they have clear road ahead of them, and they do not exceed the speed limit by an absurd amount is not considered aggressive. What I find aggressive and annoying is when someone tailgates, runs stop/red lights, do not stop at right turn on red, or even honk if you do, they are pissed off that you obey the law and slow them down.

Around here, the majority of BMW and Mercedes drivers can't drive to save their lives and are extremely inconsiderate. Especially driving in the left lane and under the speed limit.

I've often said that BMW should change their tag line to "the Ultimate Driving Machine for those that can't drive."
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