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slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: September 18, 2018 01:38PM
.....one of the writers says yes.....of course, what else could they be....

....can you now rest at night and stop tossing and turning....??


Bert and Ernie Were Gay (At Least in the Mind of One Sesame Street Writer)

....It’s one of the universe’s many unanswered questions: Are Bert and Ernie, the unmarried Muppets who have shared an address on Sesame Street since 1969 (and still look amazing!), more than merely friends and roommates? To some, it may seem odd to even attempt to assign a sexual preference to a pair of children’s characters. But to countless others, who have looked to Bert and Ernie as ambiguous LGBT icons for decades, a little confirmation would be appreciated.

And that confirmation has finally arrived (sort of) in an interview with former Sesame Street writer Mark Saltzman, who began his 15-year stint writing scripts and songs for the show in 1984. Speaking with Queerty, Saltzman says, “I always felt that without a huge agenda, when I was writing Bert and Ernie, they were [gay]. I didn’t have any other way to contextualize them.” He says that friends would often refer to him and his late partner as having a “Bert and Ernie” dynamic.

“That’s what I had in my life, a Bert and Ernie relationship,” Saltzman says. “How could it not permeate? The things that would tick off [then-boyfriend Arnold Glassman] would be the things that would tick off Bert. How could it not? I will say that I would never have said to the head writer, ‘Oh, I’m writing this, this is my partner and me.”

Discussing The New Yorker‘s iconic 2013 cover, which featured Bert and Ernie cuddling on the couch as they watched the Supreme Court legalize gay marriage in the United States, Saltzman says it was a form of “vindication,” though he lamented that we’ve yet to see a Bert and Ernie float in a gay pride parade.



confirmed..............?!



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Re: yay or nay?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 18, 2018 01:53PM
Well, that flew over my head. I always thought both were mostly asexual, in different ways. Ernie was too goofy to be romantic, and Bert's interests led in... different directions (wasn't he a pigeon-ophile? Pidgeonsexual?)

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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: dk62
Date: September 18, 2018 02:17PM
Avenue Q makes it much clearer :-)
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Re: yay or nay?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 18, 2018 02:23PM
Nope. Never occurred to me that sort of relationship was necessary for their story lines until people started asking questions in recent years. I saw it through the platonic Fred & Barney, Skipper & Gilligan rerun eyes of a child of 70s. Can't just be good friends these days, I guess. Always gotta be a subtext.



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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: Robert M
Date: September 18, 2018 02:29PM
Hi everyone,

Apparently, this is the writer's personal perspective which could very well differ tremendously from official canon.

Robert
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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: 3d
Date: September 18, 2018 02:34PM
Sesame Street Workshop head Gary Knell denied rumors in 1994. “They are not gay, they are not straight, they are puppets."
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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 18, 2018 03:56PM
Children see the world through their own personal lens. Which SHOULD be as innocent as possible.

"Cool ! They are friends living together ! They must be like brothers or have sleepovers".

Adults have NO DAMN BUSINESS imposing sexual concepts on children. Dammit !
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Re: yay or nay?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 18, 2018 05:05PM
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Acer
Nope. Never occurred to me that sort of relationship was necessary for their story lines until people started asking questions in recent years. I saw it through the platonic Fred & Barney, Skipper & Gilligan rerun eyes of a child of 70s. Can't just be good friends these days, I guess. Always gotta be a subtext.

Same here. And since I was watching reruns of The Odd Couple, I figured they were roommates. But, if course, I was less than 10 when this was all going down. I can completely understand how OLDER kids watching the show saw them through the lens of a relationship, but it certainly was never a romantic relationship.
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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: September 18, 2018 05:46PM
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cbelt3
Children see the world through their own personal lens. Which SHOULD be as innocent as possible.

My kids were pretty sure Bert & Ernie were a gay couple.
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Re: yay or nay?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: DinerDave
Date: September 18, 2018 06:03PM
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Acer
Nope. Never occurred to me that sort of relationship was necessary for their story lines until people started asking questions in recent years. I saw it through the platonic Fred & Barney, Skipper & Gilligan rerun eyes of a child of 70s. Can't just be good friends these days, I guess. Always gotta be a subtext.

agree smiley

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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: September 18, 2018 07:21PM
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cbelt3
Children see the world through their own personal lens. Which SHOULD be as innocent as possible.

"Cool ! They are friends living together ! They must be like brothers or have sleepovers".

Adults have NO DAMN BUSINESS imposing sexual concepts on children. Dammit !

agree smiley



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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: tronnei
Date: September 18, 2018 08:25PM
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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 18, 2018 08:44PM
Hey. I like that image a LOT more than the Bert is Evil!/OBL poster.
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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: stephen
Date: September 19, 2018 08:05AM
I liked the New Yorker cover a lot, but considered it a one-time take on things. The couple are what the viewers believe they are. And in general, they were viewed as buddies.
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Re: slap happy?!......so was Bert and Ernie gay [ on Sesame Street ].....??
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: September 19, 2018 08:06AM
....f***.....buddies.....???



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No, their puppets.
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 19, 2018 02:58PM
Like the man said.


The couple are what the viewers believe they are. And in general, they were viewed as buddies.

Exactly.




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