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Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 23, 2019 11:04AM
I just bought a CD on Amazon for $7.29.

They are charging $7.99 for the MP3 version.

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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 23, 2019 11:11AM
maybe someone wants the music now and cannot wait for CD

maybe someone wants to be green and does not want to discard a plastic CD and generate CO2 for shipping

maybe someone does not have time to rip the CD

maybe someone does not have a working CD drive

maybe someone does not have space to store CDs.

or simply because they can.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: March 23, 2019 11:15AM
Dunno how the prices are set. Presumably, the record company has some input.

I always prefer the CD. When you buy a disc on Amazon they give you a copy in mp3 format and make it available for streaming in the Amazon Music app. With the add-ons, it's way better value, plus you can rip the disc in lossless if you enjoy having decent digital copies of your music.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 23, 2019 11:33AM
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space-time
maybe someone wants the music now and cannot wait for CD

maybe someone wants to be green and does not want to discard a plastic CD and generate CO2 for shipping

maybe someone does not have time to rip the CD

maybe someone does not have a working CD drive

maybe someone does not have space to store CDs.

or simply because they can.

You did not answer the question.

Instead, you answered why someone would purchase an MP3 album instead of a physical CD.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 23, 2019 11:43AM
....because they can......they have the power....



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: March 23, 2019 11:46AM
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space-time
maybe someone wants the music now and cannot wait for CD

maybe someone does not have time to rip the CD

maybe someone does not have a working CD drive

maybe someone does not have space to store CDs.

You get downloadable MP3 copies of the tracks from a CD purchased from Amazon.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: March 23, 2019 12:00PM
probably two different suppliers. many cd downloads on Amazon, at least by independents, are through CDBaby and are at the price set by the artist/record company with CDBaby. physical cds on Amazon are actually through a distributor who buys them from CDBaby and sells them through Amazon. distributors set their own prices and probably have to make a physical cd more desirable than a download pricewise.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 23, 2019 12:07PM
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freeradical
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space-time
maybe someone wants the music now and cannot wait for CD

maybe someone wants to be green and does not want to discard a plastic CD and generate CO2 for shipping

maybe someone does not have time to rip the CD

maybe someone does not have a working CD drive

maybe someone does not have space to store CDs.

or simply because they can.

You did not answer the question.

Instead, you answered why someone would purchase an MP3 album instead of a physical CD.

“Because they can” is the correct answer.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: jdc
Date: March 23, 2019 12:11PM
demand for the mp3 is more than a CD, so they make the price higher = more profit



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 23, 2019 12:18PM
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jdc
demand for the mp3 is more than a CD, so they make the price higher = more profit

Yet you also get MP3s when you buy the CD...
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 23, 2019 12:27PM
“Because they can” is the correct answer.

All too true, and it chaps my hide.

We were promised lower prices with CDs vs vinyl.

I don't remember if there was a similar promise for digital downloads vs CD, but I hate, hate, hate (and I don't hate much) that we're charged as much for lower quality digital downloads vs physical CDs, which are already more than (I believe) it should be.




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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: jdc
Date: March 23, 2019 12:27PM
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jdc
demand for the mp3 is more than a CD, so they make the price higher = more profit

Yet you also get MP3s when you buy the CD...

As a gen Y or millennial or what my kids are "instant-gen", what would I do with a CD? I literally own no devices with a CD player, and I want it mobile. Or I want to play it on my BT speaker.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: March 23, 2019 12:35PM
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RAMd®d

We were promised lower prices with CDs vs vinyl.

not really. record companies salivated when CDs came out because the new format allowed them to charge so much more than the $8.99 or so they were getting for vinyl. the first CDs were at least $20!

i do think we thought digital downloads would be less expensive and in a sense they are in that you no longer have to buy the entire album if you only like one or two songs. (damn, in the streaming age you don't have to buy anything but the service to hear whatever!) digital downloads have definitely done a number on the concept of 'album.'

back in the day hours were spend sequencing albums and even timing the amount of space between cuts. that became meaningless with the dawn of shuffle play.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: March 23, 2019 12:37PM
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graylocks
the first CDs were at least $20!

I got my first 9 for a penny.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: March 23, 2019 12:37PM
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graylocks
the first CDs were at least $20!

I got my first 9 for a penny.

o god, i did those clubs so many times!



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: March 23, 2019 12:38PM
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Sarcany
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graylocks
the first CDs were at least $20!

I got my first 9 for a penny.

o god, i did those clubs so many times!

Knew you'd get that! :-)



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 23, 2019 12:39PM
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jdc
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freeradical
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jdc
demand for the mp3 is more than a CD, so they make the price higher = more profit

Yet you also get MP3s when you buy the CD...

As a gen Y or millennial or what my kids are "instant-gen", what would I do with a CD?

Sell it
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: dk62
Date: March 23, 2019 12:50PM
You do not always get downloadable MP3 from Amazon with a CD, I got it only half the time.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: March 23, 2019 01:28PM
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dk62
You do not always get downloadable MP3 from Amazon with a CD, I got it only half the time.

You do for just about everything from every major label and the big indies.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: bfd
Date: March 23, 2019 01:30PM
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You do not always get downloadable MP3 from Amazon with a CD, I got it only half the time.

Yes, it does seem hit or miss - AND - there are MP3s there for CDs that have NEVER (and would NEVER) be purchased here!
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 23, 2019 01:40PM
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freeradical
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space-time
maybe someone wants the music now and cannot wait for CD

maybe someone wants to be green and does not want to discard a plastic CD and generate CO2 for shipping

maybe someone does not have time to rip the CD

maybe someone does not have a working CD drive

maybe someone does not have space to store CDs.

or simply because they can.

You did not answer the question.

Instead, you answered why someone would purchase an MP3 album instead of a physical CD.

oh yes, I did answer the question. All those reasons can justify why someone would pay a few cents more to NOT get the CD.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: March 23, 2019 02:01PM
Enhanced convenience. You don't have to spend time opening the CD and copying files into your mobile device.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 23, 2019 02:45PM
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 23, 2019 03:03PM
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the first CDs were at least $20!

I got my first 9 for a penny.

o god, i did those clubs so many times!

Knew you'd get that! :-)

I got everyone in my 5 unit apartment building involved. I have hundreds of classic 80s and 90s rock.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 23, 2019 04:52PM
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the first CDs were at least $20!

I got my first 9 for a penny.

I did that too, I think there were 2 different clubs (Columbia and another one I can't recall) where you paid almost nothing for the first 9 or 11 and then you had to buy one at full price. What I don't recall is if you referred someone, did you also get some free CDs?
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 23, 2019 05:23PM
Columbia Record House is the only reason I have an LP of Beverly Hills Cop II.

It was the only one I forgot to send back in time.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: rz
Date: March 23, 2019 06:29PM
BMG was the other. Yeah, I did them too. Nowadays, I can get 9 cds for about $1 when I buy in bulk at garage sales. They'll ask $.25 or $.50 each, but when you offer to take them all cheap, they usually accept.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 23, 2019 07:05PM
....can you go back to vinyl.............??



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: March 23, 2019 09:17PM
Given what I mostly purchase, I don’t even bother with the MP3s that Amazon “gives” me with my purchase. I want decent sound quality.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: March 23, 2019 09:32PM
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rz
BMG was the other. Yeah, I did them too. Nowadays, I can get 9 cds for about $1 when I buy in bulk at garage sales. They'll ask $.25 or $.50 each, but when you offer to take them all cheap, they usually accept.

BMG was great! Because they had jazz, international, classical, etc from all of their affiliates.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 24, 2019 08:30AM
Napster was right: lossy files should be free, serving only as a preview of what you could be having instead.

1999 was a touchstone year, seeing a significant rise in MP3 usage and the first salvo thrown on the Loudness Wars (the immense popularity of Livin' la Vida Loca).

Record labels allowed the misperception of MP3s being functionally equivalent or even “better” to flourish, and it’s killed them. Squashing dynamic range to far below what CDs could capture didn’t help them, or us.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 24, 2019 02:28PM
Today, where most people have broadband, selling lossy files should be criminal.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 24, 2019 02:31PM
...and at a loss [ for the consumer ]......



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: hal
Date: March 24, 2019 05:32PM
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deckeda
Napster was right: lossy files should be free, serving only as a preview of what you could be having instead.

1999 was a touchstone year, seeing a significant rise in MP3 usage and the first salvo thrown on the Loudness Wars (the immense popularity of Livin' la Vida Loca).

Record labels allowed the misperception of MP3s being functionally equivalent or even “better” to flourish, and it’s killed them. Squashing dynamic range to far below what CDs could capture didn’t help them, or us.

I can't agree - the VAST majority of kids would rather have the free 'sample' and never spend a dime on music. 64bit and lower - maybe... but even at that point, I still think most would go for free crap over quality purchase.

I kinda like where we are now. Everything is available to check out on Youtube. There is your sample. Sure, some are going to take that and convert it to an mp3 and never pay a dime for music, but that's more trouble than many want to deal with. It works better as a sample system than just giving away mp3s imo. At some point, people gotta get paid for what they produce.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 24, 2019 07:17PM
what I find hilarious is all the kiddies with $500 headphones listening to highly compressed music on their phones.
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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: March 24, 2019 08:03PM
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what I find hilarious is all the kiddies with $500 headphones listening to highly compressed music on their phones.

You need expensive headphones for the DSP that hides most of the noise.



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: raz
Date: March 25, 2019 07:13AM
Thanks. I’ll stick with vinyl



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Re: Why would Amazon charge more for an MP3 "album" than an actual CD?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 25, 2019 07:57AM
....vinyl is making a bit of a comeback.....



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