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New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 24, 2019 07:47PM
We bought a bathroom sink vanity (a low cost one) and I was surprised to find out that there is no overflow...

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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: testcase
Date: March 24, 2019 08:13PM
You DID look in the front of the basin, didn’t you. It’s easy to make the overflow “disappear” that way.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 24, 2019 08:22PM
Sure, no hole at all.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: mattkime
Date: March 24, 2019 08:33PM
It says so much in the Specifications bit. I'd return it. The only reason for it not to have one is to lower manufacturing costs. Better to have it as its cheap insurance against water damage.



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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 24, 2019 09:12PM




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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: John B.
Date: March 24, 2019 09:25PM
I bought one a couple months ago without an overflow. The installation manual had a note about it claiming that the manufacturer found that overflow drains were difficult/impossible to clean and were often found to harbor bacteria, etc. I think it was a bit of an excuse, but take it for what it's worth.

I still bought the one without the overflow because so many now have the overflow right below the faucet, rather than along the front edge of the bowl, so it's right out there visible. Wasn't real thrilled with the option of staring at the overflow either.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 24, 2019 09:28PM
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It says so much in the Specifications bit. I'd return it. ...

too late, I installed it (and then I noticed the lack of overflow)
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: Carm
Date: March 24, 2019 09:51PM
Don’t worry, you are not the only one with that problem. People with vessel sinks/bowl sinks also have no overflow hole either. I’m sure it lowers the manufacturing cost.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: March 24, 2019 10:47PM
It's hard to believe that not molding the overflow into the sink casting could save much on cost.

Not that I'm in the market right now, but I'm glad you mentioned it. It wouldn't have occurred to me to look.

Egad! I thought. Does the bathroom sink we bought back in 2015 have one? I just looked; yes, in the front, three holes, but not noticeable until you're right over the sink. Whew!

I'd never buy a sink without an overflow—now that I know to look.

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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: Acer
Date: March 24, 2019 11:09PM
Harbor bacteria? It drains to the sewer. Of course it harbors bacteria. You're not supposed to drink from it.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 24, 2019 11:10PM
I'd never buy a sink without an overflow—now that I know to look.

It's hard to believe somebody wouldn't know where to look for an overflow.

That one could forget to check because what sink doesn't have one - not so hard to believe.

Once the mold is made for a sink design, I'm not sure how it would be an expense to the manufacturer anymore. To me, they're an eyesore and a necessity. But I wouldn't have a sink without one.

My bathroom sink is showing it's age with the overflow opening losing porcelain around the edges. It's a cheapish sink and it may even have an external channel for the overflow.




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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 24, 2019 11:17PM
I just checked the bathroom sink.

It's a metal bowl coated with porcelain.

The overflow channel is an external channel apparently welded to the bottom of the bowl and connected to the drain. So I see how making a sink without one would be an ongoing expense; ergo the budget model.




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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: Rolando
Date: March 24, 2019 11:48PM
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We bought a bathroom sink vanity (a low cost one) and I was surprised to find out that there is no overflow...

$299 is a budget model!?!?!?



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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: artie67
Date: March 24, 2019 11:57PM
Take a look at the front of the bowl and if you see a channel going down the bowl front to the drain connection pipe below. I think John B. got it right. It's just not drilled.
I have a vinyl sink that has a 1/2" hole in front and it is not very effective draining even a moderate amount of water.
I would leave it alone and not risk it.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 25, 2019 06:05AM
Not that I'm in the market right now, but I'm glad you mentioned it. It wouldn't have occurred to me to look.

It didn't occur to me to check either. This is for the powder room, we never leave the water ON unattended, so I don't think this is a big deal.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 25, 2019 07:06AM
......is this a monthly.....flow.....??



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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 25, 2019 07:12AM
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......is this a monthly.....flow.....??

I don't know my dear, the sink did not reach puberty yet.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 25, 2019 08:20AM
I think John B. got it right. It's just not drilled.

I think Speedy gets the credit for that one.

I'd be curious a) as to if s-t's sink has the channel, and 2) how easy or problematic it would be to drill.

If he manufacturer went to the effort to add a channel, why wouldn't they open it up. If they don't want to open it up, why would there be an overflow channel?

And are some of them part of the porcelain casting, unlike my cheapie?

Inquiring minds and all...




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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: March 25, 2019 09:21AM
It's hard to believe that not molding the overflow into the sink casting could save much on cost.

I'm pretty sure that a ceramic sink w/ overflow would involve extra molds, more materials, and involve more firings; not to mention a higher risk of product defect.

So I find it highly plausible that not having an overflow does save money.



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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 25, 2019 09:27AM
There is no channel. Nothing to drill.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: March 25, 2019 10:27AM
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: davester
Date: March 25, 2019 07:49PM
First world problem. In fact, I'd call this a top 1% problem.



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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 25, 2019 11:03PM
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space-time
There is no channel. Nothing to drill.

Create your own with a little fiberglass and some fittings.



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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 26, 2019 07:15AM
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davester
First world problem. In fact, I'd call this a top 1% problem.

is that supposed to make me feel good? LOL
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Re: New sink does not have overflow
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 26, 2019 07:21AM
....can you just go with the.......flow.....??



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