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[Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 30, 2019 04:02PM
I like drummers. I'm in awe of their talent. I like Ringo's solo on Abbey Road. But anything longer than abou 30 seconds bores me to death.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: raz
Date: March 30, 2019 04:44PM
To each his own. I love a good drum solo. Carl Palmer. Inna Godda daVita.



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: March 30, 2019 04:50PM
You're not alone, Dennis: The man himself, Keith Moon, famously hated drum solos and felt they were boring.

On very rare occasions I've heard drum solos where the drummer played around a bit with the melody as a guitar or keyboard player would during their solos and I liked those, but they were exceedingly few and far between.



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: hal
Date: March 30, 2019 05:51PM
I was listening to Derek & the Dominoes live stuff the other day. Rain is just an amazing tune and it's their closer (they didn't play Layla) and in the middle is a 6-7min drum solo. Ginger Baker - one of the best in the biz and I was bored to tears.

I'm with Dennis - 30-60 seconds is cool, but 5 minutes of even the best solo drummer is BORING. That said, I LOVE what the Dead 'drummers' do with their 20min of improve, but that isn't just drumming.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 30, 2019 05:52PM
Drum solos give the other band members a chance to grab a quick beer or smoke a doobie.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Acer
Date: March 30, 2019 05:57PM
I've only been to a handful of rock concerts in my life, but I learned to dread the drum solo pretty quick.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: March 30, 2019 06:07PM
depends on z drummer...riffing on rudiments n no thought for concept? NO..

Jumping into a groove and keeping a pocket...can be pretty great..
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 30, 2019 06:47PM
The ones I really hate are when they start slowing down, slower and slower, until the finally stop. Then the easily-entertained yell out a few seconds. Then the slowly slowly build the speed back up to the original tempo.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: March 30, 2019 06:50PM
Yeah, a lot depends upon the drummer.

And there's a whole another class from what you'd see today.

Honestly, this mesmerizes me.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: March 30, 2019 06:59PM
You're coming at it from a western perspective, which, of course, is what most of us are wont to do. But if you listen to Latin or Mid Eastern music, the drums are integral to the tune, and often there are multiple drummers.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 30, 2019 07:07PM
I'm coming at it from a Western rock angle. Jazz is not quite so bad. Latin, Middle Eastern, and African is a whole different story.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: hal
Date: March 30, 2019 09:18PM
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mrbigstuff
You're coming at it from a western perspective, which, of course, is what most of us are wont to do. But if you listen to Latin or Mid Eastern music, the drums are integral to the tune, and often there are multiple drummers.

That is a percussion ensemble - NOT a drum solo. I can listen to latin percussion all day long.

Come to think of it... I can also listen to a lengthy tabla solo if it's a master at work. Don't know why that's different than a drum solo, but to me - it is.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: March 30, 2019 10:46PM
So, no big fans of Whiplash in the house? big grin smiley









* I know, Whiplash =/= drum solos, but how many chances so you get to flog your favorite movie about drumming?
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: March 30, 2019 10:47PM
Moby Dick live. I have no problem listening to that. The Buddy Rich Impossible Drum Solo is another classic. I like most of Neil Peart's solos.



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Yoyodyne ArtWorks
Date: March 30, 2019 11:12PM
Micky Waller’s drum solo in Rod Stewart’s cover of “I Know I’m Losing You”
Danny Seraphine’s drum solo in Chicago’s cover of “I’m a Man”

Pure genius...



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Rolando
Date: March 30, 2019 11:19PM
I enjoy some drum solos, and a true master is fantastic.

John Bonham - Fool In The Rain - Isolated Drum Track
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I find this quite Satisfying

Best comment: It is said that atomic clocks in the International Space Station get their tempo from Bonzo



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 31, 2019 02:08AM
I like a lot of drum solos.

That doesn't qualify me as liking drum solos.

Generally, I don't.

Gene Krupa's famous solo doesn't do a thing for me. Buddy Rich was ok, but when he soloed, I snoozed. Loud, loud music, particularly drum solos, can literally give me the nod.

But I do love drums, particularly in latin jazz and salsa.

Oh, and put the kettle on in classical.

It was a nice Saturday afternoon, and I pumped up the volume on Fanfare for the Common Man. The horn section was good, too.




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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 31, 2019 02:14AM
Short drum solos can be very entertaining.

I'm now listening to Sing, Sing, Sing by Benny Goodman.

A Krupa solo I really liked.




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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: March 31, 2019 06:24AM
I hear them. Don't you?

Thunder Drums
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Awake, awake, and I heard the drums. The drums, the drums, the
thunder drums, the pounding drums.
The drums that boiled the juices in my marrow. What could be
their meaning? The inward pounding meaning. Their pounding,
pounding-inward meaning that boiled the juices of my marrow.
Can you hear my drums, my pounding drums? My thunder drums
are born from deep inside me. They have meaning that I will not tell.
I must not tell of the dreams of my very being. A dream of what? I
know not what.
My life must need a new purpose. The drums demand a new
purpose. Where must I turn? What must I do to please the drums
within me? The pounding drums, the thunder drums that shatter me
to action. Can you hear my drums? My thunder drums? Am I all
alone in my madness? You cant help me now. It cant be done. I
can't release from my drum beats.
Has my brain gone west? Has my heart gone wild? I feel a pain in
my pancreas. What is the meaning? Have I gone mad? I might be
mad, but you will never know. The thunder drums, the pounding
drums are my very own secret.
So, you will never know. I'll never tell of the drums that pound in
my body. The pounding drums, the thunder drums that pound my
mind and my body. They will not stop. They must not stop. They
are part of my very being. I love my drums, my pounding drums.
Soon you will know. I won't tell now. You will know the words in
those drum beats. My very own message to show you.
Can you hear them now? Can you hear them now?
You can't hear our drums? Our thunder drums, our pounding
drums. You must be mad. You must be mad. The thunder drums
surround us. The pounding drums they surround us. You can't hear.
You must be mad. You must be mad. You must be mad.

Come and stand here beside me. Dare to stand here beside me.
Drums, drums thunder, drums, drums. Thunder for you from my
very being. Thunder. Thunder, thunder, thunderrr-r-r. ThunderrR-
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Fritz
Date: March 31, 2019 06:59AM
ya know what comes after the drum solo?
bass solo.



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: DavidS
Date: March 31, 2019 07:55AM
In recent years, I've come to appreciate the Drums>Space part of Grateful Dead (and now Dead and Company) concerts. Mickey Hart and Bill Kreutzman play off each other very well. Mickey gets strange with a variety of alternative percussion instruments (saw him use a jackhammer at The Omni in Atlanta one year) and Bill pounds away at his drum set or vertical drums. Back in the day, it bored me. Now, I'm mesmerized.



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: March 31, 2019 09:20AM
Peter Gabriel had some good drumming in Rhythm of the Heat, but it wasn’t just one guy.



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: March 31, 2019 10:20AM
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Fritz
ya know what comes after the drum solo?
bass solo.

Or jazz-horns.



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: prymsnap
Date: March 31, 2019 10:42AM
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Micky Waller’s drum solo in Rod Stewart’s cover of “I Know I’m Losing You”
Danny Seraphine’s drum solo in Chicago’s cover of “I’m a Man”

Pure genius...

Indeed!
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 31, 2019 11:10AM
....so you follow the beat of a different drum......???



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: March 31, 2019 03:59PM
Oh, man, that brings back the old joke, about the intrepid explorer, with his trusty indigenous guide, and they're far into the wildnerness. All of a sudden, the most terrifying hooting and screaming imaginable begins, and soon it shifts into a bloodurdling rhythmic chant. The guide is looking worse, until the explorer explodes with, "WHat's going to happen?" The guid says "Horror beyond imagination. Next is drum solo."
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: March 31, 2019 05:52PM
I like some drum solos. Iron Butterfly, which was mentioned above is pretty dang good.

Another memorable DS was at a local club during the late 70's. We used to hit them quite regularly and this one particular night a band stopped for the DS. They all grabbed a drink while the drummer kept jamming. After a few minutes, he jumped up from behind his kit and started drumming on anything available. He hopped up on the half wall that separated the tables from the dance floor and drummed on the wall top while marching along, and proceeded to make his rounds through the entire bar. he finally made it back to his seat and the rest of the band joined him to finish the song.

We were a bit stunned, because we hadn't seen this before and he was awesome! Never skipped a beat while he furiously did his thing.



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: DinerDave
Date: March 31, 2019 08:21PM
As others mentioned above, it depends on the drummer. Is the drummer expanding on a great beat or riff? Or are they just banging the drums to stretch a song and give the others a break.

Best solos I have heard were from Chris Frazier, (Edgar Winter, Foreigner) Corky Lang, (Mountain), Bobby T. Torello, (Johnny Winter).

On a similar note, I love guitar, but was screaming STOP! at a Blue Oyster Cult concert as every song was stretched to at least double length showcasing the lead guitarist.

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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 31, 2019 08:34PM
....most guys prefer to play solos.....on long, thin instruments.....oboes.....clarinets....they play then all day long if they could and they let their instruments rule their thinking.......



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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: mikebw
Date: April 01, 2019 10:17AM
As a (rock) drummer for a number of years, I only ever did a solo on 3 songs and they were all fairly short. One was mostly a transition allowing for a change in tempo, the second was sort of a back & forth with the guitars for a couple measures, and the last was a full solo after the guitar and the bass did their solos, but again mine was only for 8 maybe 16 measures (in the middle of a cover of "mary jane" by tom petty).

For me, listening to a solo is a very revealing look at just how skilled a drummer is. Lots of drummers are good because they can keep the beat, but they might not have great chops, and that really comes out during a solo.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: April 01, 2019 03:27PM
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Micky Waller’s drum solo in Rod Stewart’s cover of “I Know I’m Losing You”

Oddly enough of all the drum solos I've listened to from Krupa, Rich, Bonham, Peart, et. al, this is the one that is stuck in my head. Not overly long, not seemingly overcomplicated, not even necessarily perfectly executed, but very engaging. And apparently, memorable.
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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: April 01, 2019 08:34PM
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On a similar note, I love guitar, but was screaming STOP! at a Blue Oyster Cult concert as every song was stretched to at least double length showcasing the lead guitarist.

So you never listened to one of their live albums before? They are kind of a guitars for guitars sake band. smiling smiley




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Re: [Opinion] I can't stand drum solos
Posted by: DinerDave
Date: April 02, 2019 07:04PM
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DinerDave
On a similar note, I love guitar, but was screaming STOP! at a Blue Oyster Cult concert as every song was stretched to at least double length showcasing the lead guitarist.

So you never listened to one of their live albums before? They are kind of a guitars for guitars sake band. smiling smiley

True, but like I said I like guitar, especially if I am up close to really see him do his craft, but after about 8-9 songs, they were starting to all sound alike.
Oddly, I enjoyed the opener band better, Foghat!



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