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hedging against the apocolypse
Posted by: Fritz
Date: April 15, 2019 05:04PM
[www.nytimes.com]

interesting read.

if you don't have a NYT sub, open in a new private or incognito page in your browser.



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Re: hedging against the apocolypse
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: April 15, 2019 06:26PM
A few months ago (forget where now) I saw an article that stated nuclear power uses less energy and half the raw materials (water, steel, aluminum, concrete, pollution generation, etc.) to build a new plant than for equivalent solar or wind/wave power generation. The big problem is to get the industry and government to take total ownership and responsibility of long term safety and properly dealing with waste/pollution.



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Re: hedging against the apocolypse
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: April 15, 2019 09:01PM
Fill... mining, refining, transport has a huge footprint.
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Re: hedging against the apocolypse
Posted by: testcase
Date: April 15, 2019 10:20PM
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cbelt3
Fill... mining, refining, transport has a huge footprint.

agree smiley

Many liberal do gooders claim the projects they want are somehow magical and can defy the laws of physics and economics. Electric vehicles? Pollution is just being shifted to a remote location where electric generation actually occurs. Recycling? How much treated, potable water goes down the drain just to rinse cans, bottles etc (and at what cost)? Universal minimum wage? How many jobs lost because the value of employees work doesn't offset the increased costs?

Politically correct is rarely truly correct.
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Re: hedging against the apocolypse
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: April 16, 2019 09:40PM
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testcase
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cbelt3
Fill... mining, refining, transport has a huge footprint.

agree smiley

Many liberal do gooders claim the projects they want are somehow magical and can defy the laws of physics and economics. Electric vehicles? Pollution is just being shifted to a remote location where electric generation actually occurs. Recycling? How much treated, potable water goes down the drain just to rinse cans, bottles etc (and at what cost)? Universal minimum wage? How many jobs lost because the value of employees work doesn't offset the increased costs?

Politically correct is rarely truly correct.

Yep.

agree smiley

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Re: hedging against the apocolypse
Posted by: Racer X
Date: April 17, 2019 12:00AM
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Filliam H. Muffman
A few months ago (forget where now) I saw an article that stated nuclear power uses less energy and half the raw materials (water, steel, aluminum, concrete, pollution generation, etc.) to build a new plant than for equivalent solar or wind/wave power generation. The big problem is to get the industry and government to take total ownership and responsibility of long term safety and properly dealing with waste/pollution.

absolutely. A good friend is a director and an EE at our local utility. The US was very close to turning around and using nuclear power again. 2 plants were approved and permits issued, then they were pulled after Fukushima happened.
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Re: hedging against the apocolypse
Posted by: Fritz
Date: April 18, 2019 05:06PM
Had LIPA/LILCO, 3 MIle and a few other episodes not happened.
And had the contractors of same not @#$%& the projects.
Perhaps we'd have had the success the euros have.
We still burn coal. Approximately 30% of our energy comes from coal. A little more from ng.

In any case, this post wasn't at all about politics. I think that some may not have read the article.



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