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Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 10, 2019 06:51PM
Apple is using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro

The new Mac Pro is a highly modular computer, making it ripe for upgrades and on-site servicing. But, the connector used for the built-in storage suggests replacements may have to be bought from Apple directly.





At the launch of the Mac Pro, Apple revealed there would be a number of options available for the built-in storage for the device. Starting from 256 gigabytes, Apple advised there were configurations that provided up to 4 terabytes of SSD storage, and to match the modular nature of the rest of the Mac Pro, the memory is also able to be removed and changed.

There are, however, questions about how serviceable the storage actually will be in reality, once it ships this fall.


[appleinsider.com]


This should surprise exactly - nobody.

Pulls will probably few and far between.

External storage is a given, but I wonder if there will be a third-party internal option.




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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: clay
Date: June 10, 2019 06:57PM
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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: June 10, 2019 07:14PM
Yes but those are for big,slow, spinny drives for STORING all your digital junk. NOT speedy SSD's.



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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: jonny
Date: June 10, 2019 07:35PM
Looks like NVMe, no?
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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: June 10, 2019 08:09PM
Small Chinese children are working feverishly producing the required
adapters for new Apple products.

just my 2¢; but it seems every time a tech company introduces a 'proprietary'
connector, an adapter or 'converter' comes to market shortly thereafter.

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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 10, 2019 08:17PM
You may be looking at the future for iMacs and MBP.

People wanted to be able to upgrade their macs, and now Apple will allow it - with a slight (costly) hitch



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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: jdc
Date: June 10, 2019 09:12PM
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jonny
Looks like NVMe, no?

Nope.

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Ombligo
You may be looking at the future for iMacs and MBP.

You cant DIY the iMac or MBP now. So same ol same ol...



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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: Robert M
Date: June 11, 2019 06:29AM
RAM,

I suspect our sponsor will have a viable replacement for the internal drive pretty quickly. They did it for the retina MBPs (prior to 2016), which have a proprietary connector. No doubt they'll have something for the new Mac Pro. There is a 3rd party option that lets you use standard NVME drives in the same series of MBP retina models. Wouldn't surprise me if that same company produces adapters for using standard drives in the new Mac Pro, too.

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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 11, 2019 06:41AM
The connector is not of great concern.

It's the T2 chip.

It's very likely that replacing the original SSD without the aid of an Apple Store tech will brick the Mac.

[tidbits.com]

The T2 chip requires technicians to run a proprietary diagnostic tool to replace certain components like flash storage, the Touch ID sensor, and the main logic board, which means repairs or replacement of those components can only be done at Apple Stores or by Apple Authorized Service Providers.



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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: sekker
Date: June 11, 2019 07:19AM
I think it’s ok if there is a boot partition that Apple’s T2 controls.

But Apple better let users add external dual or quad raid ssds.
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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 11, 2019 08:56AM
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I think it’s ok if there is a boot partition that Apple’s T2 controls...

I don't know what that means.

If you swap out the SSD, you're removing the drive, so no "boot partition" remains from the original drive.

I've already observed that various types of copy-operations can wipe out the unique identifier used by the T2 and make a drive unbootable. Even the Recovery volume was unavailable.

In one case, Apple support instructed me that the only way to resuscitate the drive would be to bring the MBP to Apple for a logic board replacement. Luckily, they were wrong and erasing the drive in Target Mode permitted me to use Internet Recovery to put a new OS on it. But the fact that they jumped to "you need to replace the logic board to fix this" suggests that there are scenarios where this is the only resolution.



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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: June 11, 2019 10:05AM
I wonder if it will be possible to use non-ECC RAM modules in the upcoming Mac Pro. The T2 chip, proprietary connectors, and throw-away options of the base Mac Pro could mean external hardware will be fairly popular. Boot from an external SSD and keep all your files on an external RAID.



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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: flareslow
Date: June 11, 2019 12:56PM
I wonder if the lack of a T2 chip in a Hackintosh will prevent use of future MacOS versions, - or has that happened already?
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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 11, 2019 06:10PM
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flareslow
I wonder if the lack of a T2 chip in a Hackintosh will prevent use of future MacOS versions, - or has that happened already?

Not yet a problem.

Apple supports Macs back about 7 years. Until the non-T2 Macs age-out, the OS won't require the T2.



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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: AllGold
Date: June 11, 2019 06:32PM
Oh, for censored smiley's sake!



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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: sekker
Date: June 12, 2019 06:32AM
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Sarcany
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flareslow
I wonder if the lack of a T2 chip in a Hackintosh will prevent use of future MacOS versions, - or has that happened already?

Not yet a problem.

Apple supports Macs back about 7 years. Until the non-T2 Macs age-out, the OS won't require the T2.

Apple released a new gen of laptops in 2016 without the T2 chip. So long as those get MacOS updates, there will be hackintoshes.
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Re: Apple using a custom connector for the SSD in the new Mac Pro
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 12, 2019 02:55PM
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sekker
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Sarcany
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flareslow
I wonder if the lack of a T2 chip in a Hackintosh will prevent use of future MacOS versions, - or has that happened already?

Not yet a problem.

Apple supports Macs back about 7 years. Until the non-T2 Macs age-out, the OS won't require the T2.

Apple released a new gen of laptops in 2016 without the T2 chip. So long as those get MacOS updates, there will be hackintoshes.

New iMacs also don't have the T2, tho there's something funny going on in EFI as they have a deceptive early boot-screen resembling the T2 pre-boot.



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