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This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: hal
Date: July 15, 2019 05:55AM
Description:

* Apple MAC Memory CT2K102464BF160B.

* Condition is New Open Box.

* The Seal were opened accidentally but not used.

* Please look at the pictures for details and feel free to ask me. Thank you

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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: July 15, 2019 06:19AM
Was it a half-price sale?



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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: July 15, 2019 06:25AM
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Ombligo
Was it a half-price sale?

Quarter price?



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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: freeradical
Date: July 15, 2019 10:44AM
Please explain what this post is about.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: July 15, 2019 10:45AM
....the lying game....??



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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: JoeH
Date: July 15, 2019 10:47AM
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freeradical
Please explain what this post is about.

A picture is worth a thousand words...
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: TLB
Date: July 15, 2019 10:49AM
16/4
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: clay
Date: July 15, 2019 10:51AM
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JoeH
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freeradical
Please explain what this post is about.

A picture is worth a thousand words...

package says 16gb, there are 2x2gb chips in the package (total of 4gb). If seller is advertising as 16gb, they are either intentionally or unintentionally misleading potential buyers.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: July 15, 2019 10:51AM
"Honest mistake"
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: Carm
Date: July 15, 2019 10:54AM
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JoeH
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freeradical
Please explain what this post is about.

A picture is worth a thousand words...
2GB Sticks.
I think the seller is uniformed, buying/selling returns. “New/Open box” is a give away. Check their other items for sale.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: July 15, 2019 10:58AM
....this is harder than finding.....'Where's Waldo?'......



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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: July 15, 2019 11:01AM
.....perhaps the seller just posted the wrong picture.....???



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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: July 15, 2019 11:53AM
A picture is worth a thousand words...

Only if you know what you're looking at.

Otherwise it isn't worth fsck.




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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: JoeH
Date: July 15, 2019 12:07PM
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RAMd®d
A picture is worth a thousand words...

Only if you know what you're looking at.

Otherwise it isn't worth fsck.

In this case it was fairly obvious, RAM is clearly marked as 2 GB right next to the Micron logo.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: July 15, 2019 12:10PM
"Micron MT4KTF25664HZ-1GSP2"

Would it even work with an 'Apple MAC'??

hal, have you contacted the seller re his listing error?
(not that it's your responsibility to do so.)



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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: mikebw
Date: July 15, 2019 12:18PM
Ha ha. Clearly someone bought the kit and put their old 2GB modules back in the package.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: Acer
Date: July 15, 2019 12:30PM
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mikebw
Ha ha. Clearly someone bought the kit and put their old 2GB modules back in the package.

Sorry. I thought the refund was just me getting my deposit back.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: hal
Date: July 15, 2019 01:38PM
For those that need it explained...

The seller is claiming that it's 16GB (2x8GB) when the ram itself clearly shows 2x2GB. Ok... maybe it was an honest mistake - they didn't notice that the RAM has 2GB printed on it - ok.

"The Seal were opened accidentally but not used."

This is the lie. As mentioned above, someone bought 16GB and put their old RAM in the package... then likely returned it as defective for a refund. It went to a heap of 'returns' and then sold off in a lot of 'store returns'. Many ebayers buy this stuff by the pallet - most just call the items 'open box' with out mentioning that it was a store return.

You can claim ignorance - that you didn't notice the "2GB", but you can't ALSO claim that YOU opened a new package by accident - SOMEONE swapped out the RAM.

The lie is really to protect the fact that they are selling store returns without testing/verifying the stock - not that they are really trying to dupe someone into buying 4GB while paying for 16GB.

No - I did not inform the seller. Why should I? For the good of mankind? The only beneficiary would be the seller. It would save him from a bad transaction and a possible negative feedback. The buyer has buyer protection - he's fine. But these sellers are HOPELESS. My informing him would not lead to a new way of doing things so my informing him would actually be a DISSERVICE to mankind. He needs to get that negative feedback.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: July 15, 2019 02:18PM
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mrbigstuff
"Honest mistake"

And by that, I mean that is what the seller will counter with when confronted.

Or, maybe the buyer won't notice. Just like the million listings on eBay where they are charging $100 for a lens cap.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: tenders
Date: July 15, 2019 07:08PM
Hmm. I would have told the guy. What he’s doing is legal, if careless, and your approval or disapproval isn’t going to change his mind about doing it. Your ten seconds of an email would spare an innocent but less-discerning buyer thousands of that amount of time in testing, disappointment, complaining, repackaging, and resending of the item.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: Janit
Date: July 15, 2019 07:41PM
The part number in the listing also does not match what is printed on the box.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: hal
Date: July 15, 2019 08:07PM
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Janit
The part number in the listing also does not match what is printed on the box.

haha! I didn't even notice that. But the only difference is that one has a little Apple logo on it and the other doesn't.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: July 15, 2019 08:46PM
What he’s doing is legal, if careless

Yes, if it was unintentional, unless some ebay loophole says a pic trumps the listing.


Your ten seconds of an email would spare an innocent but less-discerning buyer thousands of that amount of time in testing, disappointment, complaining, repackaging, and resending of the item.

An excellent reason to do so, even if there's no no personal gain or behavioral modification on the part of the seller.




When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

Perfection is the enemy of progress. -Winston Churchill

-An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

Mister, that's a ten-gallon hat on a twenty-gallon head.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: Gareth
Date: July 15, 2019 10:13PM
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tenders
Your ten seconds of an email would spare an innocent but less-discerning buyer thousands of that amount of time in testing, disappointment, complaining, repackaging, and resending of the item.

I agree. Just because a buyer has "protection" doesn't mean they should have to go through the hassle when you could have prevented it, even if it doesn't change the seller's behavior. Pay it forward.

I've emailed many a seller when there's a mistake in their listing if I notice it, even if I have no intention of buying the item myself. I've also been on the receiving end of "re-packaged RAM" (128GB Mac Pro RAM kit that ended up being the original 4 x 4GB, which despite getting a full refund for, it's not fun asking for several hundred $$$'s back).
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: GGD
Date: July 16, 2019 03:11AM
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mikebw
Ha ha. Clearly someone bought the kit and put their old 2GB modules back in the package.

I have several packages that look just like that picture, they contain the RAM that I removed from the computer when upgrading to the newly purchased RAM.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: Janit
Date: July 16, 2019 07:09AM
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hal
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Janit
The part number in the listing also does not match what is printed on the box.

haha! I didn't even notice that. But the only difference is that one has a little Apple logo on it and the other doesn't.

This is one of the curses of eBay's misguided "help" that is intended to standardize their listings. eBay offers standard part numbers to sellers, who then choose them even when they are wrong.
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Re: This ebay seller is lying!
Posted by: hal
Date: July 16, 2019 03:01PM
Hey, I do contact LOTS of ebay sellers to let then know about mistakes they've made. I do it everyday. But I am not ebay's guardian. I'm not going to contact every seller that is making a mistake especially if my help won't change their behavior. The seller in the OP has 1000s of listings. i am not going to proofread all of them even though I know that I would find dozens of errors.

My conscience is clear.
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