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Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 12, 2019 02:02PM
I picked up a pair of Yale smart locks since they met my criteria - push button code, physical keys, and ability to connect to other smart device networks. The install is straightforward - a lock is a lock. Might be a pain in the butt but it would be for a dumb lock too. Being able to use key codes is super nice. I'm a cyclist so I'd prefer not to need a place to stash keys. I can create new keys for pet sitters, repairmen, guests, etc, and disable them after they're needed.

I haven't yet connected the device to a network since I'm missing my hub. I'm looking forward to it - it'll provide an easier interface for managing keys and verifying the door is shut and locked.



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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 12, 2019 02:19PM
Cool. Please update as you use, I am very interested in these, esp with kids who are now free-ranging.
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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: August 12, 2019 04:43PM
How much did you pay for them and where did you purchase them?



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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 12, 2019 04:52PM
I paid $120 to Bezos's shop. Normal price is $170.



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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: Fritz
Date: August 12, 2019 06:44PM
which model?



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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 12, 2019 10:31PM
I'd be interested in your experience with the locks as well.

I'm debating on a couple of August deadbolt assists as they meet my criteria.

Networking them does give me pause though.

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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: pqrst
Date: August 13, 2019 12:48AM
I've been using an August smartlock for last 6 months and am happy. Added the keypad and connect module. I chose the August because it didn't advertise smartlock on the outside and still let me use a key. Use the battery lock function a couple of times a day to get in and press keypad button to close deadbolt. I put in lithium as batteries and level still reads as high. However the keypad needs a slow deliberate touch and eats batteries fairly quickly (2x aaa). I've gone thru three sets of alkalines.



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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 13, 2019 05:03AM
I chose the August because it didn't advertise smartlock on the outside and still let me use a key.

These are far and away my main criteria. Good to know you're happy with it.

Thank you.




When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men
except by believing all possible evil
of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

Perfection is the enemy of progress. -Winston Churchill

-An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

Mister, that's a ten-gallon hat on a twenty-gallon head.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: Robert M
Date: August 13, 2019 10:13AM
MAtt,

We replaced one of our locks with a Yale Assure smart lock. Don't fool yourself into thinking the install is going to be straightforward. It might be. It might be a pain in the butt.

A lock is definitely not just a lock. Locks have different patterns and proper installation ay require drilling new holes and/or cutting or enlarging existing holes. We found this out the hard way when we had our locked installed. It wasn't a simple, straight-forward install at all and makes me glad I had the foresight to hire a locksmith to do the job.

Our lock has a touchscreen, a key, z-wave tech and is compatible with Smart services. We don't use any of the smart tech right now. Gotta say, I love the touch screen. It's made life much easier, especially when unlocking the door with bags and a toddler. We also have separate codes for specific people, i.e. cleaning lady, building superintendent, etc. Change cleaning people? Disable the old cold for the cleaning person and give the new ones a new code. You get the idea.

Robert
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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 13, 2019 10:58AM
>Don't fool yourself into thinking the install is going to be straightforward. It might be. It might be a pain in the butt.

I guess it depends how comfortable you are with a power drill. Work was involved and I'm sure its easier with experience but I was happy with my results.
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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: Robert M
Date: August 13, 2019 11:13AM
Matt,

Glad your install worked out well. In our case, it was much more than just drilling holes. It took the locksmith over three hours for the install and he'd done a slew of them over the last year. Apparently, replacing standard locks with touchscreen models is becoming more common now.

How do you like the lock itself? I love ours! Wish we'd gotten one over a year ago. smiling smiley

Robert
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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 13, 2019 11:17AM
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Robert M
How do you like the lock itself? I love ours! Wish we'd gotten one over a year ago. smiling smiley

I should have been more clear - I LOVE it.

I went with the Z-Wave version - [www.amazon.com]







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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: pqrst
Date: August 13, 2019 01:57PM
The August smartlock was a bit tricky to install mainly because I have an older deadbolt and it has slipped a bit out of alignment. One caveat, the smartlock mechanism (I have the larger pill shaped Bluetooth only model) couples to deadbolt using a plastic adapter. That adapter feels to me like it could snap eventually and jam the deadbolt. Just me being paranoid. The adapter is required to match the August to different brands of deadbolts. And as I said the keypad is a little flakey but works. It is not waterproof or even weatherproof and I don't think it will take being outside in the sun.

My keypad is tucked away behind a cut out in a garden gnome next to the door. smiling smiley



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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 13, 2019 03:44PM
an older deadbolt and it has slipped a bit out of alignment.

That's been mentioned in several reviews. The lock doesn't have a lot of torque, as one would imagine, so good alignment is key to a freely moving bolt.

That's also key to reducing the torque on the plastic adapter. I'm hoping that unlike some plastics, the adapter won't become brittle with age.

I wish I had one of those Unimat lathes to work on machining dinky parts out of metal.

I'd also be loathe not to carry a key with me, ever, anyway. I think being the adapter breaking and not having a key would be a more likely scenario than the adapter breaking and jamming the lock.

That would be my hope, anyway.




When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men
except by believing all possible evil
of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

Perfection is the enemy of progress. -Winston Churchill

-An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

Mister, that's a ten-gallon hat on a twenty-gallon head.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 13, 2019 04:05PM
>I'd also be loathe not to carry a key with me, ever, anyway.

We have a key backup.
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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: Robert M
Date: August 13, 2019 04:44PM
Matt,

A key backup was a must. i wouldn’t consider any touchpad lock that lacked one. Although I don’t anticipate problems and have yet to use the key (aside from testing it and the lock), I’ll definitely have it on me when out. Just in case. No doubt of that.

Robert
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Re: Dija lock the door? My experience with Yale Assure smart locks
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 13, 2019 04:54PM
Some people will go without a key backup for a smart lock if they have another door that _doesn't_ have a smart lock. Just a different way of having a backup.
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