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How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 03, 2019 11:20PM
I need to make a utility hand rail for two steps leading from the carport into the house. I think I'll probably use 3/4 or 1" pipe. Will black or galvanized hold paint better? What kind of prep is best and what kind of primer and paint are best?
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Carm
Date: September 03, 2019 11:23PM
Black pipe has a coating of iron oxide. I vote for galvanized with a metal primer, rattle can and spray on enamel with 2 or 3 uv clear coats.

Edit: corrections



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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 03, 2019 11:27PM
I'm going to wash it with TSP and sand it regardless.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Carm
Date: September 03, 2019 11:33PM
Galvanized resist corrosion.
More basic info : [www.differencebetween.net]
All chain link fencing is galvanized for longevity. I remember as a kid digging post holes at my gramps house to put up a chain link fence.

As long as you prep the surface before painting, you’ll be fine with either.



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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 04, 2019 12:46AM
Is this a euphemism for something I don't want to know about?
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: September 04, 2019 01:11AM
no, that's LAYING pipe. Painting pipe is actually painting pipe.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 04, 2019 01:12AM
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mrbigstuff
Is this a euphemism for something I don't want to know about?

If it was, Newt would have already chimed in.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 04, 2019 01:13AM
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Racer X
no, that's LAYING pipe. Painting pipe is actually painting pipe.

Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: artie67
Date: September 04, 2019 01:19AM
Dennis, I'm here to assist you in design. I have done lots of wood rails and fancy stuff. If you would like my help just PM me and we will get started.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: September 04, 2019 01:22AM
Great, Artie. It may be awhile before I have time.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: September 04, 2019 01:53AM
This is not galvanized pipe.





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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: September 04, 2019 06:35AM
....stick that in your pipe.....and smoke it....!! (black pipe tends to be larger)......



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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: flareslow
Date: September 04, 2019 07:52AM
I'd go with aluminum pipe and fittings from these guys:

Diamond Aluminum

Painting would be optional.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: September 04, 2019 08:47AM
1" seems too thin for a handrail, I mean better than nothing but a nice handrail would be closer to 2" I think.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: 3d
Date: September 04, 2019 08:54AM
For a short two-step handrail, how about one of those premade handicap/safety shower handrails? It'll look much more finished.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: MikeF
Date: September 04, 2019 11:02AM
By code requirements, handrails need to be 1-1/4 to 2-inch diameter. 1" galvanized pipe is just shy of 1-3/8 outside diameter, so that would work. I use 1" galvanized pipe as closet poles -- covered with 2-inch white heat-shrink tubing with the ends tucked into the ends of the pipe (I use a rounded-over broom handle to jam it into the ends; rounded so it doesn't tear). Initially I just used the gas stove in the kitchen to shrink it but now have a heat gun. I use a 1-3/8 spade bit to create holes in the shelf supports to hold the pipe on both ends. EDIT: "The only processing of the galvanized pipe is to deburr the ends where cut before sliding on the heat-shrink. Might also depend on how you're mounting it."

If you would like to use 2" heat shrink tubing, PM me and I can send you a few feet free of charge. Or if you're local to Long Beach CA, can arrange to pick it up.



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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: steve...
Date: September 04, 2019 11:03AM
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3d
For a short two-step handrail, how about one of those premade handicap/safety shower handrails? It'll look much more finished.

Some of these might work for you (in chrome and stainless): HomeDepot




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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: MikeF
Date: September 04, 2019 11:13AM
Or this:
[www.homedepot.com]

I'm sure there are many metal handrail alternatives, pre-made, and cheaper...

[www.indital.com]
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Acer
Date: September 04, 2019 11:17AM
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MikeF
By code requirements, handrails need to be 1-1/4 to 2-inch diameter. 1" galvanized pipe is just shy of 1-3/8 outside diameter, so that would work. I use 1" galvanized pipe as closet poles -- covered with 2-inch white heat-shrink tubing with the ends tucked into the ends of the pipe (I use a rounded-over broom handle to jam it into the ends; rounded so it doesn't tear). Initially I just used the gas stove in the kitchen to shrink it but now have a heat gun. I use a 1-3/8 spade bit to create holes in the shelf supports to hold the pipe on both ends. EDIT: "The only processing of the galvanized pipe is to deburr the ends where cut before sliding on the heat-shrink. Might also depend on how you're mounting it."

If you would like to use 2" heat shrink tubing, PM me and I can send you a few feet free of charge. Or if you're local to Long Beach CA, can arrange to pick it up.

Is that heat shrink UV stable for usage outside? Asking for a friend.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: MikeF
Date: September 04, 2019 11:56AM
I stand corrected. What I have is 1.5-inch shrink tubing. Purchased some 25 years ago (100-foot spool) when we added several bedrooms with multi-pole closets. Here's the label:
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: September 04, 2019 04:05PM
I second the safety rail suggestion for a two or three step solution. Next on my list would be closet rod. No way would I consider painting black or galvanized pipe, when these nicer, no-painting-needed alternatives are readily available.
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Re: How to paint pipe and is galvanized or black pipe best for hand rail?
Posted by: Mike Johnson
Date: September 06, 2019 12:40AM
Black pipe stains. I use it in my pipe clamps but I always put down tape or wax paper to keep it from staining the piece.

Painting galvanized pipe is complicated because even if you strip all the oil, you're painting a surface with variable composition. I expect you'd have to sand off all the galvanizing. Prep is critical but so is choosing the right primer and paint. When people paint galvanized pipe inside a house for camouflage, it doesn't get handled and touched. When people paint galvanized paint outside, it usually seems like the paint is eager to go someplace else.
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