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lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 11, 2019 11:37AM
A couple of forum members have recommended running pi-hole - [pi-hole.net]

It sounds like a good idea but I need to know how practical it is long term. Its my experience that browser based ad blockers need to be disabled on a somewhat regular basis because various websites will break. The sites are usually doing weird things but I still need to use them anyway. When I run into this problem I just pop open an incognito window which doesn't have any ad blockers in it.

Do similar problems exist with pi-hole?



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: September 11, 2019 11:50AM
Funny thing, I was just thinking of it & am curious.
Do you need a Raspberry Pi or can pi-hole be installed on a router?



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 11, 2019 12:16PM
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MrNoBody
Funny thing, I was just thinking of it & am curious.
Do you need a Raspberry Pi or can pi-hole be installed on a router?

It can be installed on a variety of devices. Its basically a dns block list. Looks like I can do something similar with my EdgeRouter X - set up the block list but i don't need the software.



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 11, 2019 12:25PM
do it. I have not see any websites complaining about it.

In private mode, many websites complain.

With Pi-hole, I just get some small empty spaces instead of ads.

Do it.

Do it.

Do it.

enough said.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 11, 2019 12:27PM
I think as far as the web site is concerned, they told your browser to load that ad and they probably still get the revenue (I guess). Your browser runs into dead ends (IP is blocked), so no ad coming your way. The web sites do not seem to check if the ad has loaded or not.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: Carm
Date: September 11, 2019 02:01PM
Here is a install/review of pi-hole by Linus (YouTube guy)
[youtu.be]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/11/2019 02:04PM by Carm.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 11, 2019 02:34PM
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space-time
do it. I have not see any websites complaining about it.

In private mode, many websites complain.

With Pi-hole, I just get some small empty spaces instead of ads.

Do it.

Do it.

Do it.

enough said.

Which blacklist do you use?



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 11, 2019 04:33PM
All the default that were installed.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 11, 2019 04:35PM
k, will try this tonight



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: Will Collier
Date: September 11, 2019 04:45PM
I had to take it off our network because my wife couldn't stand being blocked from Google price comparison searches. I've asked around since and not found a good work-around yet. Google and Google Ads are so ubiquitous it's hard to filter out what you want to get through vs. what you want to block.

Other than that I loved it. Huge improvement to the whole surfing experience. The amount of data going to Amazon (for instance) that the pi-hole reveals (and blocks) is staggering.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: michaelb
Date: September 11, 2019 05:57PM
I have a pi sitting around somewhere and plan to try this, so I appreciate the discussion and encouragement.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: September 11, 2019 06:55PM
It seems if I can get PIA-OpenVPN to work on my ASUS router, I won't need pi-hole.
So far it's a no go. Awaiting reply from PIA tech.



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 11, 2019 08:49PM
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space-time
do it. I have not see any websites complaining about it.

In private mode, many websites complain.

With Pi-hole, I just get some small empty spaces instead of ads.

Do it.

Do it.

Do it.

enough said.

SO FAR SO GOOD!



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 11, 2019 09:01PM
just be aware that some ads at the beginning of videos might still play. Also on cnn.com there are some ads from bank of america or lendingtree that will still appear, since those are hosted on amazon, not on specific as servers.

I think this is only temporary until ad companies will figure out and move their ads to AWS and similar domains we can't block.

Enjoy it wile it lasts.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 11, 2019 09:02PM
also after a few days, remove the Pi-Hole and go back to regular browsing, just to see how bad it was without it.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: GGD
Date: September 11, 2019 09:22PM
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space-time
also after a few days, remove the Pi-Hole and go back to regular browsing, just to see how bad it was without it.

How do you deal with a laptop that you use for travel, pi-hole seems like a great solution when you're home, but once you leave your home pi-holed network ads will return. So it seems like you still need some browser based ad blocking.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 11, 2019 09:51PM
hrm, taboola content still seems to get through. items loaded from a taboola domain.



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 11, 2019 10:02PM
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GGD
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space-time
also after a few days, remove the Pi-Hole and go back to regular browsing, just to see how bad it was without it.

How do you deal with a laptop that you use for travel, pi-hole seems like a great solution when you're home, but once you leave your home pi-holed network ads will return. So it seems like you still need some browser based ad blocking.


not there yet. I plan to install a VPN to use my own DNS server at home. here are instructions at pi-hole.net but I don't travel much right now, so I put that on the back burner.

I wish I had a pi-hole at work though.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 11, 2019 10:02PM
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mattkime
hrm, taboola content still seems to get through. items loaded from a taboola domain.

I have not seen taboola, I hate that domain. Could be a cached DNS, or you could add taboola to the blacklist.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 11, 2019 10:30PM
I'm a little dense - does including or excluding a domain block it? looking at [britannic.github.io]



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 11, 2019 10:42PM
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mattkime
I'm a little dense - does including or excluding a domain block it? looking at [britannic.github.io]

You can Blacklist and Whitelist. No matter how drunk you are, this should be clear for any republican.
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 11, 2019 10:47PM
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space-time
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mattkime
I'm a little dense - does including or excluding a domain block it? looking at [britannic.github.io]

You can Blacklist and Whitelist. No matter how drunk you are, this should be clear for any republican.

so `blacklist include` means including something on your blacklist, blocking it.



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: Carm
Date: September 12, 2019 01:39AM
Yes
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 12, 2019 07:56AM
Hm, I think I have more investigation to do.



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: space-time
Date: September 12, 2019 08:43AM
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mattkime
Hm, I think I have more investigation to do.

What specific?
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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: September 12, 2019 08:51AM
....is this just pi.....in the sky.....talk....??



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 12, 2019 09:18AM
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space-time
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mattkime
Hm, I think I have more investigation to do.

What specific?

I don't think I was actually using my router as the dns server. changed my dns server to my router address and now things are appropriately blocked.



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Re: lets talk pi-hole
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 12, 2019 09:22AM
Its the hazard of following guides without 100% understanding everything.



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