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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: vision63
Date: January 14, 2020 11:19AM
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I think they need to make invisible signs - maybe a ring for the pitcher and a Headsup display for the catcher’s helmet.

Sure, a hacker could try to ‘steal’, but they could recode the encryption between each inning if they like.

It's the CATCHER that calls the pitch (the pitcher can shake it off, but the catcher initiates the process). I don't see how a heads up display on a pitcher would work.

Nothing wrong with "stealing" the signs. That's part of the game so i believe something like that would interfere with the nature of the sport. You just shouldn't be allowed to use technology to gather information during the competition. "Solving" your opponent is a thing.
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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: January 14, 2020 11:53AM
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I think they need to make invisible signs - maybe a ring for the pitcher and a Headsup display for the catcher’s helmet.

Sure, a hacker could try to ‘steal’, but they could recode the encryption between each inning if they like.

It's the CATCHER that calls the pitch (the pitcher can shake it off, but the catcher initiates the process). I don't see how a heads up display on a pitcher would work.

Nothing wrong with "stealing" the signs. That's part of the game so i believe something like that would interfere with the nature of the sport. You just shouldn't be allowed to use technology to gather information during the competition. "Solving" your opponent is a thing.

Agreed. If you want to win, you will try to win - within the rules, if you're smart. Going right up to the limit is what everyone should strive for, otherwise you're not really trying (because the other side is doing the same, and folks who think otherwise are naive).
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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: Dazed & Confused
Date: January 14, 2020 07:37PM
The memes are starting:



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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 14, 2020 09:23PM
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I think they need to make invisible signs - maybe a ring for the pitcher and a Headsup display for the catcher’s helmet.

Sure, a hacker could try to ‘steal’, but they could recode the encryption between each inning if they like.

It's the CATCHER that calls the pitch (the pitcher can shake it off, but the catcher initiates the process). I don't see how a heads up display on a pitcher would work.

Yes, but that's because of the way light info is transmitted. No reason the pitcher can't call the pitches...
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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 14, 2020 09:48PM
Yes, but that's because of the way light info is transmitted. No reason the pitcher can't call the pitches...

The catcher is a daily player and all around field general, while the pitcher is on the mound every 5th or 6th game, if that. Relief pitchers have no working knowledge inventory of opposing hitter weaknesses; at least not like catchers have.

There is just no way it's feasible or desirable to have pitchers calling signals.
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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 14, 2020 10:03PM
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Yes, but that's because of the way light info is transmitted. No reason the pitcher can't call the pitches...

The catcher is a daily player and all around field general, while the pitcher is on the mound every 5th or 6th game, if that. Relief pitchers have no working knowledge inventory of opposing hitter weaknesses; at least not like catchers have.

There is just no way it's feasible or desirable to have pitchers calling signals.

Top pitchers effectively call their own games by calling off catchers until they get the pitch they want. The best pitchers like Greg Maddux called their games for years.
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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 14, 2020 10:14PM
Top pitchers effectively call their own games by calling off catchers until they get the pitch they want. The best pitchers like Greg Maddux called their games for years.


True and then their are HoF pitchers who brag they never ever shook off a call. By and large pitchers trust catchers to make the right call.
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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: January 15, 2020 07:59AM
Pitchers and catchers are dance partners. They can't both lead, and a great pair is a delight to watch.



rj
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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: January 15, 2020 11:45AM
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At least they didn’t deflate the ball.

MLB knows how to punish cheaters and those that can't behave. NFL not so much.

I wonder if the MLB's action might force the NFL's hands the next time someone gets caught cheating.
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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: January 15, 2020 01:05PM
....so there was a catcher......in the rye....???



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Re: MLB serious about sign stealing. Wow.
Posted by: raz
Date: January 15, 2020 02:06PM
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True and then there are HoF pitchers who brag they never ever shook off a call. By and large pitchers trust catchers to make the right call.

Don't think, Meat. Just throw.



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