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Shower temperature control.
Posted by: space-time
Date: February 06, 2020 08:05PM
I am fighting the flu and I have a high fever (fever returns before I can take the next dose of Motrin to bring it down). I learned that I am very sensitive to shower temperature during one of these episodes. The shower valve, a Moen, is probably 30 year old. It is the push/pull style with a knob that goes 180 degree. It is very sensitive in the region where I feel comfortable. if someone uses another fixture when I take a shower, the temperature changes and new curse words are spoken in languages yet to be invented.

I am curious if a newer valve would have better temperature control. Thanks.



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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: davester
Date: February 06, 2020 08:19PM
Yes, if you buy a high quality temperature or pressure compensating valve. It makes a massive difference. The temperature-compensating valves also protect you from temperature shocks when someone opens a faucet somewhere or turns on the washing machine. The problem is, you generally can't replace the valve without tearing the wall apart.



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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: CJsNvrUrly
Date: February 06, 2020 08:19PM
I don't have the answer to your query but...I've wondered why, given all the technology at our fingertips, we don't have a shower control with set temps.




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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 06, 2020 08:29PM
....the answer to your shower situation......is.....golden......



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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: davester
Date: February 06, 2020 08:31PM
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CJsNvrUrly
I don't have the answer to your query but...I've wondered why, given all the technology at our fingertips, we don't have a shower control with set temps.

We do. The temperature-compensating controls on our shower, which is now about 20 years old, have the temperature printed on the dial. Set and forget!

I did check and it is possible to retrofit a thermostatic mixer to a shower that has separate hot and cold faucets, but I didn't see anything that would retrofit space-time's Moen. There might be something out there though.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: space-time
Date: February 06, 2020 08:35PM
OK, thanks. if I need to tear down the wall, I won't do it now, but I will definitely keep that in mind when time comes.
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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: lost in space
Date: February 06, 2020 08:38PM
I'd get in touch with Moen directly. They have the best customer service ever. If anyone makes a retrofit to meet your needs, Moen would.



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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: Buzz
Date: February 06, 2020 08:54PM
104° in winter, 88° in summer, fluctuate in between as needed.

In the meantime, before you replace your plumbing, just go shower w/ a friend that has more modern plumbing.
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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: Fritz
Date: February 06, 2020 09:02PM
I just dealt with this and the same kind of Moen.
I suggested updating and taking the wall down. But alas.
For a few bucks more a better made shower valve/body is a good investment.
When you change, I suggest Kohler or Delta, or hansgrohe if you don't mind foreign. And don't buy from homies. Not the same product.
Buy from a local plumbing supply.
While we have a 12yo AmStandard shower upstairs, I'd never buy that brand again. The cartridges seem to have a higher failure rate than others I've used. YMMD.

The other thing is, I think it's a good idea to check inside a water wall every now and then. One never knows.



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Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: February 06, 2020 11:09PM
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I am fighting the flu and I have a high fever (fever returns before I can take the next dose of Motrin to bring it down).

Maybe it would be best to avoid fighting your body's immune system…[/quote]

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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: testcase
Date: February 07, 2020 12:24AM
BEFORE you "tear open the wall", visit Moen's website. Moen had SO many choices and options available! I stumbled on it AFTER I had bought / installed a $500 shower panel. Because that shower had been a major upgrade, the enclosure had been completely gutted. It would have been easy to do all sorts of creative things while the studs were visible. I did go with Moen faucets then which proved to be a wise choice. 10+ years later, the kitchen faucet started to drip. One call to Moen and new replacement parts were sent right out, courtesy of Moen's warranty. My experience was that Moen is a GREAT company to deal with!
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Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: February 07, 2020 05:35AM
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I'd get in touch with Moen directly. They have the best customer service ever. If anyone makes a retrofit to meet your needs, Moen would.

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Posted by: Sam3
Date: February 07, 2020 08:21AM
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I am fighting the flu and I have a high fever (fever returns before I can take the next dose of Motrin to bring it down).

Maybe it would be best to avoid fighting your body's immune system…

[en.wikipedia.org][/quote]

I agree. Fever is a necessary part of fighting an infection. Our pediatrician said that the only reason to give medicine to lower a fever is to make a child comfortable, not to help them get better.
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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: February 07, 2020 11:36AM
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I don't have the answer to your query but...I've wondered why, given all the technology at our fingertips, we don't have a shower control with set temps.

I've stayed in a few nice hotels internationally that have a digital display associated with the shower that allows you to set a specific temperature. Really nice once you figure out the temperature that you like.

Most of the units sold in the US work off a temperature delta. That means that the control needs to be adjusted seasonally if your location has significant temperature swings thru the course of the year as the regulation is based upon in incoming cold water temperature.
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Re: Shower temperature control.
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 07, 2020 12:04PM
....would it help to shower.......together......???



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