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China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: DP
Date: February 07, 2020 07:21AM
A Chinese doctor who was punished after raising the alarm about China's new coronavirus died from the pathogen on Friday, sparking an outpouring of grief and anger over a worsening crisis that has now killed more than 630 people.

Li, 34, died early Friday, Wuhan Central Hospital said in a post on China's Twitter-like Weibo platform, an announcement that triggered deep sadness on social media over a doctor hailed as a hero.

"He is a hero who warned others with his life," a fellow Wuhan doctor wrote on Weibo.


[news.yahoo.com]





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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Acer
Date: February 07, 2020 07:43AM
Scary. When it starts taking out the caregivers, it's not just another "bug that might defeat a few weak grandpas but us young folk will be fine."
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: February 07, 2020 07:52AM
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Acer
Scary. When it starts taking out the caregivers, it's not just another "bug that might defeat a few weak grandpas but us young folk will be fine."

Unfortunately, caregivers are often victims in an epidemic. Especially as it worsens and they become exhausted caring for patients. The medical teams in China at the center of the quarantine areas are desperately overworked and exhausted.

Until the epidemic burns itself out, more people will suffer, more people will die.
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Bernie
Date: February 07, 2020 10:29AM
Con theories that can be supported.

Coronavirus stolen from Canadian laboratory by Chinese agents 2018

US Pharma has virus vaccine that has been pending approval since 2016. Our rats and pigs kept dying so it did not get approved

China was not going for a bioweapon.

China was trying to create a vaccine before we did. Our rats and pigs kept dying but that doesn't bother China.

They skipped protocols that the western world have in place and opps!




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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: February 07, 2020 11:42AM
feels like the opening half hour of any Zombie movie..

it's actually pretty creepy

This is where the Science deniers start to mumble and make a few exceptions..
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: neophyte
Date: February 07, 2020 12:45PM
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Bernie

US Pharma has virus vaccine that has been pending approval since 2016. Our rats and pigs kept dying so it did not get approved

If the test animals kept dying (presumably after vaccination, then infection), then it really wasn't a "vaccine", was it? So why should it have been approved as such?
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: February 07, 2020 12:55PM
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Bernie
China was trying to create a vaccine before we did. Our rats and pigs kept dying but that doesn't bother China.

I'm gonna disagree with the "doesn't bother China" bit as they *love* pork and we export a lot of pork to China. They're super concerned about the supply of pigs.
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Bernie
Date: February 07, 2020 01:00PM
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neophyte
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Bernie

US Pharma has virus vaccine that has been pending approval since 2016. Our rats and pigs kept dying so it did not get approved

If the test animals kept dying (presumably after vaccination, then infection), then it really wasn't a "vaccine", was it? So why should it have been approved as such?

China does not have a problem with that. They will test it on people. Big Pharma moves forward.




Staunton, Virginia
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: February 07, 2020 01:02PM
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Bernie
Con theories that can be supported.

Coronavirus stolen from Canadian laboratory by Chinese agents 2018

US Pharma has virus vaccine that has been pending approval since 2016. Our rats and pigs kept dying so it did not get approved

China was not going for a bioweapon.

China was trying to create a vaccine before we did. Our rats and pigs kept dying but that doesn't bother China.

They skipped protocols that the western world have in place and opps!

And your sources for this? Please cite with links.
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: February 07, 2020 02:03PM
Pestering acknowledged (proud?) conspiracy theorists for verifiable documentation is a silly game.



rj
AKA
Vreemac, Moth of the Future
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Bernie
Date: February 07, 2020 03:56PM
Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

January 28 2020

Zaosong Zheng

In August 2018, Zheng entered the United States on a J-1 visa and conducted cancer-cell research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston from Sept. 4, 2018, to Dec. 9, 2019. It is alleged that on Dec. 9, 2019, Zheng stole 21 vials of biological research and attempted to smuggle them out of the United States aboard a flight destined for China. Federal officers at Logan Airport discovered the vials hidden in a sock inside one of Zheng’s bags, and not properly packaged. It is alleged that initially, Zheng lied to officers about the contents of his luggage, but later admitted he had stolen the vials from a lab at Beth Israel. Zheng stated that he intended to bring the vials to China to use them to conduct research in his own laboratory and publish the results under his own name.

China’s Funding of U.S. Researchers Raises Red Flags
Academics don’t always disclose the funding, adding to concerns about national security





Staunton, Virginia



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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: February 07, 2020 04:02PM
Again, that case has zero to do with the novel coronavirus. If you're trying to turn this thread into an anti-Chinese free-for-all, no thanks. The Sinophobic racism pooling in this thread already is odious.



rj
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Vreemac, Moth of the Future
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: February 07, 2020 04:19PM
Totally unconnected to Coronavirus. Try again.
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: February 07, 2020 06:31PM
What does industrial espionage have to do with the coronavirus?

Oh wait, I can answer that: nothing.
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Bernie
Date: February 07, 2020 07:07PM
This thread is called China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies

I am implying that this virus is man made and got loose.

No one will every take the blame or be blamed.

Where is my tin foil smiley?

Why is he called a whistleblower? Is someone trying to hide something?

Who owns the cure? Reuters




Staunton, Virginia



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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: JoeH
Date: February 08, 2020 11:35AM
He is being called a whistle blower because he reported publicly about an illness going around, the Chinese government tends to reserve that kind of reporting to when it wants the news to go out. Does not require any conspiracy theory of government lab involvement in the origin of the new type of coronavirus for that to be the case.
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: February 08, 2020 02:28PM
You can't reason with conspiracy thinking, JoeH. You just can't.



rj
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Vreemac, Moth of the Future
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Bernie
Date: February 08, 2020 02:39PM
Canadian Scientist At Center Of Chinese Bio-Espionage Probe Found Dead In Africa?
This Winnipeg based Canadian lab was targeted by Chinese agents in what could be termed as Biological Espionage. The viruses was reportedly stolen from the Canadian lab by Chinese Biowarfare agent Xiangguo Qiu and her colleagues and smuggled to none other than the Wuhan Institute of Virology where the virus is believed to be weaponized and leaked.

Further, Frank Plummer was also working on HIV vaccine and interesting recently published study by Indian scientists found HIV-like injections in Wuhan Coronavirus – the key that made the jump to people possible. The Indian Scientists came under massive online criticism by Social Media experts and were forced to withdraw their study, in retaliation of which now the Indian authorities have opened an investigation against China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology. Although it should be noted that now China has started using HIV vaccine to cure Coronavirus.




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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Janit
Date: February 08, 2020 06:37PM
None of these conspiracy theorists understand a damn thing about viruses or virology.

Baseless Conspiracy Theories Claim New Coronavirus Was Bioengineered
[www.factcheck.org]

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Bernie
Canadian Scientist At Center Of Chinese Bio-Espionage Probe Found Dead In Africa?
This Winnipeg based Canadian lab was targeted by Chinese agents in what could be termed as Biological Espionage. The viruses was reportedly stolen from the Canadian lab by Chinese Biowarfare agent Xiangguo Qiu and her colleagues and smuggled to none other than the Wuhan Institute of Virology where the virus is believed to be weaponized and leaked.

Further, Frank Plummer was also working on HIV vaccine and interesting recently published study by Indian scientists found HIV-like injections in Wuhan Coronavirus – the key that made the jump to people possible. The Indian Scientists came under massive online criticism by Social Media experts and were forced to withdraw their study, in retaliation of which now the Indian authorities have opened an investigation against China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology. Although it should be noted that now China has started using HIV vaccine to cure Coronavirus.
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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Bernie
Date: February 09, 2020 06:19AM
Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media.




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Re: China virus crisis deepens as whistleblower doctor dies
Posted by: Janit
Date: February 09, 2020 10:55PM
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Bernie
Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media.

I cite the article at Factcheck.org as a good place to start reading if you actually want to learn something about virology; it was written by someone who is knowledgeable about virology, and directly cites many scientific sources that can themselves be verified.

The article you cite at www.zerohedge.com is not a good source of cogent information; the phrasing of its claims shows that the writer is not knowledgeable about virology, and the sources cited are also not knowledgeable about virology. The sources cited contain lots of unverifiable innuendo.

The fact that Facebook is consulting FactCheck reflects positively on Facebook, and not negatively on FactCheck. Whether Facebook will take any information obtained from FactCheck seriously is another matter, and I will concede that there is good reason to be skeptical about Facebook's intentions.



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