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No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: February 11, 2020 01:28PM

"end of season priced and ready to go"
Maybe they should offer an upgraded trim package and "employee pricing"?

No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
[www.cnbc.com]

Boeing posted a slow start to 2020, recording zero orders for new airplanes in the month of January.

The lack of orders last month stands in contrast to its competitor Airbus, which logged orders for 274 commercial airplanes in January.

January is the latest month without orders after the grounding of the 737 Max in March 2019.

Boeing recorded a negative order rate in 2019 — for the first time in decades — as customers canceled or converted orders. In January, Boeing did not have any order cancellations.

Meanwhile, the company delivered 13 new airplanes in January: six 787 Dreamliners, a pair of 777s, two 767s and three 737NGs.

With the company’s beleaguered 737 Max still grounded, Boeing did not deliver any Max models in January. The plane’s software was at the center of two fatal crashes that killed a combined 346 people.

Investors and industry insiders have grown accustomed to Boeing’s low rate of orders and deliveries since production of the 737 Max halted earlier this year. Boeing has said it expects the Max to be recertified and for regulators to lift the grounding of the Max by the middle of 2020.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/11/2020 01:32PM by Steve G..
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: space-time
Date: February 11, 2020 01:52PM
"end of season priced and ready to go"

I can’t see these flying off the shelves.



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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: kj
Date: February 11, 2020 01:54PM
It's weird how trading long-term viability for short-term profits ends up hurting the long-term viability of a company.
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: February 11, 2020 02:15PM
I don't think anyone is ordering spacecraft from them either after the post-flight review of Starliner, either.

Apparently their software division is a $#!^ show...



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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: February 11, 2020 02:21PM
For the record, I tried to.

And Boeing was like, "your card says it's being rejected."



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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: February 11, 2020 02:29PM
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space-time
i can’t see these flying off the shelves.

I can -- right into the ground.



It is what it is.
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: February 11, 2020 02:46PM
leading responses:
space-time
tuqqer
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: February 11, 2020 02:48PM
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Steve G.
leading responses:
space-time
tuqqer

N-OS X-tasy!'s had me chuckling.



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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: February 11, 2020 03:22PM
These will move as soon as the FAA un-grounds them. Airlines will have no choice because they need the planes now, and can’t afford to wait several years for the backlog to be over. Though the 737 was always outsold by the A320 family from Airbus, primarily because the Airbus was a better plane.
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: Racer X
Date: February 11, 2020 03:25PM
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space-time
i can’t see these flying off the shelves.

Oh, they aren't flying ANYWHERE. Almost none of them have turbines installed. They fly an airframe to the storage parking lot, remove the 2 turbines, bring those back to Renton, bolt them into another airframe, and fly that one off. Boeing isn't taking delivery of turbine engines, so they don't have to pay for them to just sit, unsold. It's killing their suppliers.
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: February 11, 2020 04:18PM
... It's killing their suppliers.

Sure beats killing passengers, doesn't it?



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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: space-time
Date: February 11, 2020 04:31PM
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Racer X
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space-time
i can’t see these flying off the shelves.

Oh, they aren't flying ANYWHERE. Almost none of them have turbines installed. They fly an airframe to the storage parking lot, remove the 2 turbines, bring those back to Renton, bolt them into another airframe, and fly that one off. Boeing isn't taking delivery of turbine engines, so they don't have to pay for them to just sit, unsold. It's killing their suppliers.

so those engines are EMPTY?
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: February 11, 2020 04:35PM
It’s possible. If so, you’re just seeing the nacelles.
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: Racer X
Date: February 11, 2020 04:40PM
Just because you see a hood on a car doesn't mean there is an engine under it.

Didn't you ever watch "Gung Ho"?



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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: February 11, 2020 04:41PM
They fly an airframe to the storage parking lot...

uhh, the 737MAX is not FAA Certified; how do they get away with flying that
aircraft anywhere?
I could see them towing engine-less MAX's over to Boeing Field maybe.



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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: Racer X
Date: February 11, 2020 04:50PM
They can't fly with passengers. They can fly aircrew only. I have a number of friends and former co-workers who are engineers for Boeing, both on the jumbo and narrow body lines here in the Seattle area.
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: February 11, 2020 04:53PM
You can get exceptions for things like this.....I know the FAA can issue ferry permits.
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: sekker
Date: February 11, 2020 05:35PM
Just sad.
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: testcase
Date: February 11, 2020 09:30PM
Maybe Boeing should ty offering discount coupons.......




Or "Buy one Get" one Fridays...... boink smiley
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Re: No one ordered a plane from Boeing in January
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: February 11, 2020 10:07PM
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testcase
Maybe Boeing should ty offering discount coupons.......




Or "Buy one Get" one Fridays...... boink smiley

Maybe free crash replacement.




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