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Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: wurm
Date: February 14, 2020 10:59AM
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Will Weinstein make it to the slammer?
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50 votes were received.
Should and will 20
 
40%
Should and won't 27
 
54%
Shouldn't but will 1
 
2%
Shouldn't and won't 2
 
4%



I'll go first.

Damn well should but wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't (I know that wasn't an option in the poll, but there you go.)
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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: February 14, 2020 12:05PM
The rest of his wretched life.
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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: February 14, 2020 12:33PM
I will be shocked if he doesn't get some time in jail, if not prison.




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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: decay
Date: February 14, 2020 12:51PM
Have any of you been following the witness who described his, uhh, "naughty bits"? The term 'intersex' was used. I'm sort of surprised that the major news outlets haven't mentioned this much.



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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: Rolando
Date: February 14, 2020 01:27PM
He's a filthy slimy @#$%&. Is he a rapist? Thats a different question. I will leave it up to the courts

EDIT: I'm not following the case, but what evidence is there? Its not like the dozens/hundreds of actresses (adult humans) who willingly exchanged favors for a job are going to testify in his defense.



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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 14, 2020 01:34PM
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Rolando
I'm not following the case, but what evidence is there? Its not like the dozens/hundreds of actresses (adult humans) who willingly exchanged favors for a job are going to testify in his defense.

eh, maybe you should do some reading on the topic.



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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: February 14, 2020 02:45PM
Not an attorney but I have heard some interesting comments made by attorneys
covering the case for Court TV.
Going out on a limb here, if he's convicted there are so many points for appeal
(as noted by the reporting); his attorneys will keep the case going in the courts
for years. Getting him behind bars seems to be a steep hill to climb.

my 2¢, I hope I am wrong!



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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: February 14, 2020 02:49PM
Hope springs eternal...



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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: February 14, 2020 03:17PM
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decay
Have any of you been following the witness who described his, uhh, "naughty bits"? ... I'm sort of surprised that the major news outlets haven't mentioned this much.

Perhaps that's because it's not relevant, and introducing gender identity into the discussion feels both unsavory and cheap?



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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: SteveO
Date: February 14, 2020 06:31PM
A disgusting human being. Needs prison. Lots of it.
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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: The UnDoug
Date: February 14, 2020 08:14PM
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rjmacs
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decay
Have any of you been following the witness who described his, uhh, "naughty bits"? ... I'm sort of surprised that the major news outlets haven't mentioned this much.

Perhaps that's because it's not relevant, and introducing gender identity into the discussion feels both unsavory and cheap?

Which are exactly the two qualities that seem to drive most news reporting these days. :-(



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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: space-time
Date: February 14, 2020 08:17PM
I don't know... what he did is clearly wrong, but did he actually rape any of these girls? if he pressured them and made them promises, that is wrong, very wrong, but probably not a crime.

So maybe the @#$%& gets away with it, especially if the statute of limitations ran out.
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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 14, 2020 08:36PM
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space-time
I don't know... what he did is clearly wrong, but did he actually rape any of these girls? if he pressured them and made them promises, that is wrong, very wrong, but probably not a crime.

How do you personally define rape? If someone says no, makes an effort to physically resist, and the instigator proceeds is it rape?

Seems clear to me.
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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: space-time
Date: February 14, 2020 11:01PM
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mattkime
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space-time
I don't know... what he did is clearly wrong, but did he actually rape any of these girls? if he pressured them and made them promises, that is wrong, very wrong, but probably not a crime.

How do you personally define rape? If someone says no, makes an effort to physically resist, and the instigator proceeds is it rape?

Seems clear to me.

Yes then it is rape. I just did not follow the details besides a headline here and there. Which is why I asked.
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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 14, 2020 11:19PM
Oh, I highly recommend 'Catch and Kill' podcast by Ronan Farrow. Or his book if you prefer. Goes into a lot of detail.



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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 15, 2020 02:34AM
I dont like jail for anybody except people that refuse to stop doing bad things.
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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: wurm
Date: February 15, 2020 08:21AM
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mattkime
Oh, I highly recommend 'Catch and Kill' podcast by Ronan Farrow. Or his book if you prefer. Goes into a lot of detail.

The book was great and Farrow is great on talk shows and in interviews. But I listened to the audiobook and he'd have done well to hire a professional narrator, if only for the fact that (by his own admission) foreign accents are not his strong suit. And as an aside, I had no idea his fiance is Jon Lovitz.

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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: February 15, 2020 08:33AM
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wurm
And as an aside, I had no idea his fiance is Jon Lovitz.

It's Jon Lovett. Big difference.



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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: wurm
Date: February 15, 2020 10:10AM
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rjmacs
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wurm
And as an aside, I had no idea his fiance is Jon Lovitz.

It's Jon Lovett. Big difference.

Ahhhh..thank you for that clarification. Big difference indeed. By now I should know not to trust my (failing) ears!
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Re: Will Harvey Weinstein serve any time?
Posted by: Ammo
Date: February 15, 2020 02:52PM
When he showed up in court using a walker, I decided he is guilty.



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