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Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: February 14, 2020 10:04PM
I Google a thing or a phrase, see relevant (if any) eBay links in the "shopping" results in the thumbnail listings at the top of the page. Google is obviously seeing eBay listings relevant to my search because it's polled the text on the page.

But I can run that same search at eBay's site and get a different result. Doesn't happen all the time, but I suspect eBay's search these days has some kinda recipe that's too smart for its own good, like it returns results based on the auction title only. Or mainly.

Popular items and words will obviously return results; I'm not saying their search is broken.

In my example I looked for a discontinued Canon service part, the film door latch for the Elan II. It's something that eventually will fail on these otherwise excellent cameras and mine finally caught up with fate.

"canon elan ii latch" finds it on Google at eBay, but that search on eBay instead shows me every Elan II with a broken film door latch.

This is weird, because I can run standard eBay searches and usually find both product and related product parts in one search.

If there's a clue that supports my auction title theory it's that the latch is typically listed for the "EOS 50," the alternative name for the Elan II.
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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: February 15, 2020 02:04AM
I just did a test search on EBay to see how my results came out:

Search terms- 1965 Dodge Polara Tail Light (relatively obscure but not unheard of and very specific)

Pretty much everything on the first page was right on point, aside from obvious sponsored ads for LED tail light bulbs.



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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: Acer
Date: February 15, 2020 08:30AM
I, too, have noticed that what shows in Google is not always actually there in eBay. eBay ads generate faux results, where it will put the keywords in the supposed "result" even though there are no listings. Similarly, it will also generate results from old auctions that have expired.

When i search for eBay stuff, I just go to eBay. I have not found Google's results to add value.



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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: February 15, 2020 09:13AM
Interesting. You’re describing the opposite.
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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: February 15, 2020 09:43AM
Different search engines w/ different algorithms = wtf??
Might explain how I found a deal on a shipping label printer. Prior Post

Didn't show up on either Google or eBay but did find the link on the first page of
a DuckDuckGo search!

Printer was listed on eBay under:
Business & Industrial > Material Handling > Packing & Shipping
> Shipping Labels & Tags > Address & Shipping Labels

Perhaps that affected the eBay indexing & in turn Google's search engine. dunno smiley

(categories do not include the keyword "printer".)



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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: February 15, 2020 12:38PM
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MrNoBody
Different search engines w/ different algorithms = wtf?? ...

I can understand that, even though my topic is about the opposite scenario, where a site’s own search can still be weaker than outside search.

I also realize why that would be, given that search is for small sites an afterthought. But not eBay.
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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: freeradical
Date: February 15, 2020 12:55PM
The Amazon search engine make eBay's search engine look fantastic.
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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: hal
Date: February 15, 2020 02:08PM
Ebay search is pretty good - I suspect that you're seeing expired listings in your google search that is eliminated in the ebay search
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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: February 15, 2020 02:23PM
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freeradical
The Amazon search engine make eBay's search engine look fantastic.
^ we have a winner!! ^
I use da Duck to search for Amz items, it just works better.



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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: hal
Date: February 15, 2020 03:53PM
I can't believe how bad amz's search STILL is
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Re: Sometimes I wonder if eBay wants me to find things.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: February 17, 2020 07:22AM
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hal
Ebay search is pretty good - I suspect that you're seeing expired listings in your google search that is eliminated in the ebay search

Yes I will see those if down on the page of results. But up top, where the thumbnails are, they’re current. But to find those same listings on eBay I had to use more exact search terms despite Google only able to “see” what’s on the same listing page eBay already knows about.
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