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Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 12, 2020 12:04PM
Just saying...
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: March 12, 2020 12:13PM
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: mattkime
Date: March 12, 2020 12:16PM
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ztirffritz
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they hoard



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: March 12, 2020 12:26PM
Well, they prepare--I think they're supposed to have 1-2 years of dried/stored food available.
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 12, 2020 12:29PM
....but don't smurfs do the same.....??



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 12, 2020 12:35PM
....so anyone featured on the show 'Hoarders'.......was right all along......???



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: March 12, 2020 12:48PM
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NewtonMP2100
....so anyone featured on the show 'Hoarders'.......was right all along......???

FTW!
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: h linamen
Date: March 12, 2020 12:55PM
Yeah, check some of the expiration dates on their stored food.
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: Robert M
Date: March 12, 2020 12:56PM
H,

Food shmood. Answer the door and they'll give you a free book. smiling smiley

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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 12, 2020 01:01PM
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h linamen
Yeah, check some of the expiration dates on their stored food.

The LDS encourages PROPER food storage and rotation of stock. New bought goes in back, old gets used off the front... Don't buy anything you don't use regularly, and keep stocks fresh.
It's one of the things (well, maybe the only one...) that I admire about the Mormons: they have their sh... uh, stuff together when it comes to preparedness.



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: March 12, 2020 01:17PM
Maybe I'm Mormon...



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: March 12, 2020 02:27PM
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ztirffritz
Maybe I'm Mormon...

Do you have the magic underwear?
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 12, 2020 03:00PM
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ztirffritz
Maybe I'm Mormon...

Do you have the magic underwear?

I'm gonna push back a little here on behalf of my Mormon friends, who can take a joke but don't particularly like being mocked for their religious practices.

We don't point and mock people because of their visible religious garments (kippahs, hijabs, robes), and I'm not okay with poking fun at concealed ones either.

If you're LDS, and I'm missing an inside joke here, please call me in. Otherwise, perhaps we could leave the religious minorities and their chosen clothing alone.



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: RgrF
Date: March 12, 2020 03:15PM
Yes we do. I'm from the George Carlin School of Religious Idiocy. We're equal opportunity de-bunkers.
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 12, 2020 03:22PM
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RgrF
Yes we do. I'm from the George Carlin School of Religious Idiocy. We're equal opportunity de-bunkers.

If you ask me, one-off potshots at religious communities don't qualify as smart (read: Carlinesque) critiques of theism. If you were granted a degree from that school, RgrF, you got scammed.

Making fun of people's faith without context or rationale isn't "de-bunking" - it's just mean-spirited and ugly.



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: March 12, 2020 03:24PM
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rjmacs
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DeusxMac
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ztirffritz
Maybe I'm Mormon...

Do you have the magic underwear?

I'm gonna push back a little here on behalf of my Mormon friends, who can take a joke but don't particularly like being mocked for their religious practices.

We don't point and mock people because of their visible religious garments (kippahs, hijabs, robes), and I'm not okay with poking fun at concealed ones either.

If you're LDS, and I'm missing an inside joke here, please call me in. Otherwise, perhaps we could leave the religious minorities and their chosen clothing alone.

I’m OK with moving this to the other side if you’d prefer.
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 12, 2020 03:37PM
It's not in the least political. It's just not totally copacetic.

Edit: also, my side topic is played out. I've said what I need to say about this.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2020 03:39PM by rjmacs.
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: March 12, 2020 04:32PM
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Paul F.
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h linamen
Yeah, check some of the expiration dates on their stored food.

The LDS encourages PROPER food storage and rotation of stock. New bought goes in back, old gets used off the front... Don't buy anything you don't use regularly, and keep stocks fresh.
It's one of the things (well, maybe the only one...) that I admire about the Mormons: they have their sh... uh, stuff together when it comes to preparedness.


I have lived amongst this population most of my life. They encourage food stores and usage in the way Paul describes. The people who adhere to the practice assume that in the case of an emergency, one's family can survive until services are restored. It always made sense to me because the Salt Lake metro area is in earthquake country. We are 6-7 hours from the next large metro area. Should there be any kind of natural disaster, SLC people would be on their own for a while.

As far as the garments previously mentioned, here are some short videos with explanation that helps further understanding of the issue.
[www.youtube.com]
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 12, 2020 07:53PM
Thank you Danny,

Education is the best answer to ignorance.



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 12, 2020 08:14PM
Maybe I'm Mormon...


You might be Mormon if...

Ok, I'm done.


Making fun of people's faith without context or rationale isn't "de-bunking" - it's just mean-spirited and ugly.

I don't need to have any religious ties or beliefs (which I don't) to agree completely with this.

I'm not interested in de-bunking and even less so with being mean-spirited. Such behavior almost always says more about the individual or group, than the targets or victims.

It's just people channeling their biases, prejudice, and fear while forsaking reason for meanness, because it's easy.




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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: March 12, 2020 10:47PM
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RAMd®d
...forsaking reason...

Hardly!
Reason is the capacity of consciously making sense of things, applying logic, and adapting or justifying practices, institutions, and beliefs based on new or existing information.
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 12, 2020 11:07PM
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DeusxMac
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RAMd®d
...forsaking reason...

Hardly!
Reason is the capacity of consciously making sense of things, applying logic, and adapting or justifying practices, institutions, and beliefs based on new or existing information.

Why do you insist on continuing to thread poop here? This thread was meant to simply be an observation about something pragmatic that Mormons do that just might be useful for others to emulate when it comes to disaster preparedness. Please cut it out.



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 13, 2020 02:22AM
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Paul F.
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h linamen
Yeah, check some of the expiration dates on their stored food.

The LDS encourages PROPER food storage and rotation of stock. New bought goes in back, old gets used off the front... Don't buy anything you don't use regularly, and keep stocks fresh.
It's one of the things (well, maybe the only one...) that I admire about the Mormons: they have their sh... uh, stuff together when it comes to preparedness.

I wanted a bunch of plastic lids for #10 cans to store garage stuff in after I make big batches of Marinara sauce or chilli. Anyway, cheapest place I found was the online store run by the LDS church. They had an amazing array of storage stuff.

The key with lots of dried goods is to purge the air (oxygen) from the bulk container. Usually a chunk of dry ice. As the CO2 settles, it displaces and pushes out the regular atmosphere. When the CO2 stops sublimating because the "ice" is gone, quickly seal. Gamma seals for 5 gallon buckets are pretty awesome. Rice and beans last pretty long this way. You could do flour too in a similar way I bet. Not going to go into my scheme here.

I'm not a "prepper" but I know a few. Interesting strategies and creative "hacks" for lots of stuff. Really fascinating. Moonshine makes a great disinfectant FWIW. Glad I still have mom's Presto canning pressure cooker which can be converted into a still.
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: March 13, 2020 08:25AM
The key with lots of dried goods is to purge the air (oxygen) from the bulk container...

Is that why chips, pretzels, etc. bags are pumped full of nitrogen @ the factory?



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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: March 13, 2020 06:14PM
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Racer X
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Paul F.
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h linamen
Yeah, check some of the expiration dates on their stored food.

The LDS encourages PROPER food storage and rotation of stock. New bought goes in back, old gets used off the front... Don't buy anything you don't use regularly, and keep stocks fresh.
It's one of the things (well, maybe the only one...) that I admire about the Mormons: they have their sh... uh, stuff together when it comes to preparedness.

I wanted a bunch of plastic lids for #10 cans to store garage stuff in after I make big batches of Marinara sauce or chilli. Anyway, cheapest place I found was the online store run by the LDS church. They had an amazing array of storage stuff.

The key with lots of dried goods is to purge the air (oxygen) from the bulk container. Usually a chunk of dry ice. As the CO2 settles, it displaces and pushes out the regular atmosphere. When the CO2 stops sublimating because the "ice" is gone, quickly seal. Gamma seals for 5 gallon buckets are pretty awesome. Rice and beans last pretty long this way. You could do flour too in a similar way I bet. Not going to go into my scheme here.

I'm not a "prepper" but I know a few. Interesting strategies and creative "hacks" for lots of stuff. Really fascinating. Moonshine makes a great disinfectant FWIW. Glad I still have mom's Presto canning pressure cooker which can be converted into a still.

No, no, no...CO2 or nitrogen purging went out in the 1980s...it doesn't work well enough.

Commercial long-term storage companies use oxygen absorbers, but you can also get them via the LDS canneries, IIRC.
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: March 13, 2020 08:10PM
No, no, no...CO2 or nitrogen purging went out in the 1980s...it doesn't work well enough.

Chip producers still use nitrogen because it works, it's cheap, and they've yet
to find a better way.
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Re: Those Mormons are looking pretty smart now
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: March 16, 2020 06:45PM
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MrNoBody
No, no, no...CO2 or nitrogen purging went out in the 1980s...it doesn't work well enough.

Chip producers still use nitrogen because it works, it's cheap, and they've yet
to find a better way.
NPR

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Chips are packaged to have a shelf life of mere months.

Nitrogen/CO2 purging isn't good enough for a product that is designed to last 20+ years.



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